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Posted: 14 years ago

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If not today but one day she would have been haunted that she falsely accused her BIL, she just saw Toasty happy with same people and realized what she had lost, how her mom wrongly instigated her.

She might have been bit richer but never happy, there are people who are in her situation but they are very few in numbers and Malti is not one of them. She might think she have been abused but what she did, just doesn't justify it.

I can't say I don't believe in karma since that that belief keeps the humanity in me alive else I would be heartless.

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rajh

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Posted: 14 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: bbbccc

If not today but one day she would have been haunted that she falsely accused her BIL, she just saw Toasty happy with same people and realized what she had lost, how her mom wrongly instigated her.

She might have been bit richer but never happy, there are people who are in her situation but they are very few in numbers and Malti is not one of them. She might think she have been abused but what she did, just doesn't justify it.

I can't say I don't believe in karma since that that belief keeps the humanity in me alive else I would be heartless.

where is tosty happy??she always make drama like being happy.

even her husband does not treat her properly.

malthi is fooled by tosty.

can you not see how much tosty abused day after day??still you think tosty is happy??

chaturvedis was women abusers in past,they are women abusers in present,and remain women abuser in future.

tej and chaturvedis are not fit for any sympathy.

Edited by 100raj - 14 years ago

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Naina007

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Posted: 14 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: 100raj

that is the point.pashu does not have any trust in her.and chedi hates from bottom of his heart.and tej,ved also hate her.
then how can she will return and remain happy in sasural.
not at all possible.

happy reunion dream is shown by tosty to malthi.
but life is not that simple.

now malthi position is
na ghar ka ,na ghat ka.

so again same point returns.
tosty is immature.dose not understand complexities of relations.

It's difficult but it's not impossible. All the hatred and anger is because of many misunderstandings. Mathi was very naive and immature then and she has grown up. She will handle the circumstances now differently then she did later. She realized late but she deserves a second chance. If she fails to succeed in that, then that is her own destiny. But she deserves at least a chance.

Malthi's position has been like that since the moment she left her sasural and returned to her mayika. Toasty has nothing to do with it.

Toasty understands how difficult it is. You cannot change the way people think and perceive things over night but she believes love can overcome everything and this is not immature it's naive-ness. 😊

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tasha

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Posted: 14 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: 100raj

what is her position now.

pashu does not want her.then why not she get divorce??

she could have withdrawn false accusations.why withdraw divorce case??

i don't think think being divorcee is liability.
life is much more than just husband and family.
if you can not be happy with husband it is better to part ways.

sooo trueee

life is not husband and family only, one has to live their own life

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rajh

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Posted: 14 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: Naina007

It's difficult but it's not impossible. All the hatred and anger is because of many misunderstandings. Mathi was very naive and immature then and she has grown up. She will handle the circumstances now differently then she did later. She realized late but she deserves a second chance. If she fails to succeed in that, then that is her own destiny. But she deserves at least a chance.

Malthi's position has been like that since the moment she left her sasural and returned to her mayika. Toasty has nothing to do with it.

Toasty understands how difficult it is. You cannot change the way people think and perceive things over night but she believes love can overcome everything and this is not immature it's naive-ness. 😊

do you think extreme hatred can be healed .i don't think so.in real life it does not happen.how can this possible.

once mirror broken then you can not make it repaired.yes,you can buy new one.but you can not get the old one repaired.
pashu -malthi relation is over,because husband -wife relation depends upon trust.
and that trust and bond between them broken.not once,not twice,but thrice.
1st malthi broke trust.
2nd time malthis mom,

3rd is most dangerous trust broken.pashu complain against malthi when he knows she is innocent.she is extremely injured,when she came to about complaint,she told truth.and this all known to pashu.still he went ahead and got arrest warrant for her.
now how you heal all these wounds.impossible.

so it is better for both to get divorce.

Edited by 100raj - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Naina007

It's difficult but it's not impossible. All the hatred and anger is because of many misunderstandings. Mathi was very naive and immature then and she has grown up. She will handle the circumstances now differently then she did later. She realized late but she deserves a second chance. If she fails to succeed in that, then that is her own destiny. But she deserves at least a chance.

Malthi's position has been like that since the moment she left her sasural and returned to her mayika. Toasty has nothing to do with it.

Toasty understands how difficult it is. You cannot change the way people think and perceive things over night but she believes love can overcome everything and this is not immature it's naive-ness. 😊

toasty's intention was good but mistake was she rushed things,had she let things happen slowly by letting pashu realise his feelings for malti,preparing pitaji,ved to accept malti(by clearing mu's n assuring them that shobha will not have influence on malti) n then encouraging pashu to put his decision infront of the family,then the outcome would have been different.now the situation is back to square one or should i saw even more worser as toasty may have to face bitterness of whole chaturvedis n malti also,n some gyan from her mother also.

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Naina007

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Posted: 14 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: 100raj

do you think extreme hatred can be healed .i don't think so.in real life it does not happen.how can this possible.

once mirror broken then you can make it repaired.yes,you can buy new one.but you can get the old one repaired.
pashu -malthi relation is over,because husband -wife relation depends upon trust.
and that trust and bond between them broken.not once,not twice,but thrice.
1st malthi broke trust.
2nd time malthis mon,

3rd is most dangerous trust broken.pashu complain against malthi when he knows she is innocent.she is extremely injured,when she came to about complaint,she told truth.and this all known to pashu.still he went ahead and got arrest warrant for her.
now how you heal all these wounds.impossible.

so it is better for both get divorce.

Yes, I do believe extreme hatred can be healed. I do believe love can heal everything in all honesty, in real life it does happen. Take Mahatma Gandhi and Mother Theresa, they are prime examples of love healing all hatred.

I agree, mirrors cannot be repaired to the exact same once broken. But the problem is people think relationships are like glass, fragile, but in reality, relationships are very fragile but not like glass. Glass breaks and cannot be repaired, relationships can. It takes a lot of love and a lot of time, but ultimately, all wounds heal and all relationships mend. Somebody once told me relationships are made by chance but maintained by work.

I don't think their relationship is over. There relationship has a lot of unresolved issues left to deal with, as well as a lot of negative emotions like guilt, pain, anger, resentment. All of these can be resolved with love, time, truth and confrontation. Every marriage has it's ups and downs and right now Pashu is extremely disappointed. He feels let down because he DID have faith in Malthi which is why he thought of her good side when he came home from the police station. It is his anger and pain seeing his father in so much pain which is causing him to completely resent Malthi right now and block out all feelings towards her.

People act out in anger, pain and grief? When you see your father crying you go insane thinking you are the cause of it. And that pain becomes anger, which as a result makes you do things you wouldn't do when you're not angry. Pashu doesn't care at this moment who is innocent and who is guilty. He only knows that his father did no wrong and Malthi's mom and her should suffer for making his father cry.

It's so hard to forgive people, but eventually time heals all wounds...Forgiveness requires a big heart... all extreme points in relationships do have a come back point to neutral, provided you want to get there.

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Naina007

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Posted: 14 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: -sahasra-
toasty's intention was good but mistake was she rushed things,had she let things happen slowly by letting pashu realise his feelings for malti,preparing pitaji,ved to accept malti(by clearing mu's n assuring them that shobha will not have influence on malti) n then encouraging pashu to put his decision infront of the family,then the outcome would have been different.now the situation is back to square one or should i saw even more worser as toasty may have to face bitterness of whole chaturvedis n malti also,n some gyan from her mother also.

I agree with you. She should've slowed down and let things happen on their own with a little bit of a push. But I guess the accident was not part of the plan and it acted like a catalyst and sped things up in such a way that it was too hard to slow down the storm that passed them by and messed up everything.

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rajh

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Posted: 14 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: Naina007

Yes, I do believe extreme hatred can be healed. I do believe love can heal everything in all honesty, in real life it does happen. Take Mahatma Gandhi and Mother Theresa, they are prime examples of love healing all hatred.

I agree, mirrors cannot be repaired to the exact same once broken. But the problem is people think relationships are like glass, fragile, but in reality, relationships are very fragile but not like glass. Glass breaks and cannot be repaired, relationships can. It takes a lot of love and a lot of time, but ultimately, all wounds heal and all relationships mend. Somebody once told me relationships are made by chance but maintained by work.

I don't think their relationship is over. There relationship has a lot of unresolved issues left to deal with, as well as a lot of negative emotions like guilt, pain, anger, resentment. All of these can be resolved with love, time, truth and confrontation. Every marriage has it's ups and downs and right now Pashu is extremely disappointed. He feels let down because he DID have faith in Malthi which is why he thought of her good side when he came home from the police station. It is his anger and pain seeing his father in so much pain which is causing him to completely resent Malthi right now and block out all feelings towards her.

People act out in anger, pain and grief? When you see your father crying you go insane thinking you are the cause of it. And that pain becomes anger, which as a result makes you do things you wouldn't do when you're not angry. Pashu doesn't care at this moment who is innocent and who is guilty. He only knows that his father did no wrong and Malthi's mom and her should suffer for making his father cry.

It's so hard to forgive people, but eventually time heals all wounds...Forgiveness requires a big heart... all extreme points in relationships do have a come back point to neutral, provided you want to get there.

who should try to heal?? is it tosty??why should she try to heal pashu and malthis relation ship??why she make her own life miserable??if as a person pashu wants to remain dukhi and bitter with life,let him remain like that.

you can give a person mirror to see his face.
but what can you do when he closes his eyes and don't see himself in mirror??

pashu and chedi want to remain in past.they don't want to see future.
un dukhi atma wo ko unki haal pe chod do.
they dont want happiness in life.how can you make them happy forcefully??

Edited by 100raj - 14 years ago

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Naina007

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Posted: 14 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: 100raj

who should try to heal?? is it tosty??why should she try to heal pashu and malthis relation ship??why she make her own life miserable??if as a person pashu wants to remain dukhi and bitter with life,let him remain like that.

you can give a person mirror to see his face.
but what can you do when he closes his eyes and don't see himself in mirror??

pashu and chedi want to remain in past.they don't want to see future.
un dukhi atma wo ko unki haal pe chod do.
they dont want happiness in life.how can you make them happy forcefully??

Yes she has no right to interfere in Malti's/Pashu's life. Or even try and heal the pain between Pashu and Malthi. But who is Malti? Who is Pashu? Her family right?

So if she has no right to interfere/heal old wounds in anyone's life, then why do they call themselves family? In that case, nobody should interfere in anyone's life and just mind their own business. But that is the difference between family and others. Family's interference isn't interference it's caring.. Yes every caring "should" have a limit, but can we really set boundaries for how much we should care and try to do for someone we love truly? How can we sit back and say let these people suffer? When you truly care for people you do everything you can to try and make them happy. Seeing them happy makes you happy.

Look from her angle, she just wants her older brother to be happy because she knows deep down inside he still loves his wife very much. And she isn't really wrong. Pashu does/did at some point miss Malti but he isn't able to forgive her for what she did to HIS FAMILY. More than what she did to him is what she did to his family that matters to him, especially his father now with the tears and arrest and humiliation. And now that Shoba pulled another trick on them, it's going to take a long time to heal. But the difference between then and now is Malthi's change in attitude. She's grown up to see right from wrong.

Live in today, Yesterday is gone. That is the problem the Chaturvedi family are making. They are too used to living in the past and nurturing their old wounds. That is what Toasty is trying to heal. Sure Malti did a lot of bad things, but why did she do these things? She wanted more time with her husband? She wanted more freedom out of the house? She wanted the burden of work to be less on her? She wasn't totally wrong either. It's not fair for one woman to do EVERYTHING for 7 men every single day of her life. Malti's biggest influence was her mother, and her mother led her stray. Don't make the mistake of pinning Shoba's mistakes on Mathi. Mathi was naive and immature and still to some degree is naive. Today she has realized her mistake, she deserves a second chance because life is too short. Put yourself in her position, what if you woke up and realized you've hurt so many people and wished you could take it all away? You'd do anything to get that second chance. That's what Toasty is trying to give her. A second chance. She didn't know that Shoba would mess things up completely and take advantage of the situation...

And, unki aatma un par chod do, then what is the point of being in a family? That's the difference between Toasty and someone down the street. Understand her nature. She interferes because she wants to make everyone happy. And these people are her own. That's the least you can do for someone you love right?

And to be completely honest, Chedi and Pashu didn't deserve what happened to them, but Malthi leaving the house wasn't a one sided problem. It was both. Every action has it's opposite and equal reactions. The difference is sometimes Malthi reacted wrong or sometimes Pashu or Chedi. But now the situation is different. Mathi changing her statement should've been proof enough to them that she isn't the bad seed, the bad seed is Shoba. But, their nurturing their old wounds and they are too blinded by their pain to see what's right in front of them. I don't blame them either, time will show them as time shows all.

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