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Posted: 14 years ago
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While I appreciate the writers of the show wanting to bring positivity into it after days of sadness, I feel like in the apology and the aftermath, the root cause of why things happened were never explored.
The men in the house acknowledged that they had misunderstood Toasty, felt genuinely guilty and went to bring her back - but noone really thought about what led to the situation. I guess we did see Pashu think about his anger and attitude being an issue, noone focused on what the problem in the household was in the first place. I think Tej does at some level - and has realized that if the house remains the way it is, there is bound to be more issues in the future.
The root cause of why I think women find it so hard in the house. While I appreciate Toasty genuinely being happy with all the responsibilities in the house, it was never fair how she was treated at every step - like her sole task was to keep everyone happy, not having any specific desires of her own - while constantly comparing her to their mother. I understand that sometimes the comparisons were for good reasons, however I still think that's unnecessary. Why not appreciate her just for who she is as an individual. Why make her give up her individuality (including her job)? Why not think about the fact that she likely has some dreams and desires too?
I particularly felt irritated when the brothers came home without Toasty and the first thing the dad says is "I don't understand girls these days" and started his jaap of his wife again? Makes me wonder if he ever allowed his wife to have any opinions or be her own person either.
I really hoped that through this story, at some level the dad in particular would realize that there are things he does in the way he runs his household that is not conducive to his sons having a partner and their own independent life (Here I am not saying that the sons should move out but that they and their spouse should be allowed to have dreams of their own while caring for the family at the same time - a life outside of just the house). In addition, I had hoped he would realize that the way to run a household is not always his way - i.e. "lets vote on this". As Sudha rightly said, are they running a government or is it a family? While they admit that the vote was wrong, noone admitted that the way they went about it was incorrect in the first place.
Even if Toasty were to go back, granted they feel apologetic and genuinely care for her, I don't see a modern girl being truly satisfied in that house. I love my family and don't see anything wrong with being dedicated to your in-laws, don't get me wrong. But it's disappointing when a girl leaving everything and just being happy with that is seen as the ideal.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I guess you have your facts little bit wrong. Toasty gave up her job herself to take care of the stuides of Gyan and Prachhen and she said to Tej that if she would have done it for her own kid, why she wont do it for them?
I do not think anyone forced Toasty to leave job (though they may have wished it and you can not question someone's wish) and rather Tej wanted her to continue and it was her decision as she does not differentiate between her own kid (would be) and brother in laws. I know in the name of being modern, people made their definition of relatives, own people very short and I like Toasty for boradening her definition and in return she got the unconiditional love.
I guess the one thing they need to change is to bring atleast a maid in the house. There is no logic behind Toasty doing all household works. I can understand she doing the cooking but not cleaning the house, washing clothes, irnoning shirts etc. Either they bring a maid, pay to get the job done or share the work among themselves. It is disgusting that she has to wash/iron clothes of others.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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even tho i agree wid u...but i dnt think da creative writers think so deep like us forum members...lol
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: akash08

I guess you have your facts little bit wrong. Toasty gave up her job herself to take care of the stuides of Gyan and Prachhen and she said to Tej that if she would have done it for her own kid, why she wont do it for them?

I do not think anyone forced Toasty to leave job (though they may have wished it and you can not question someone's wish) and rather Tej wanted her to continue and it was her decision as she does not differentiate between her own kid (would be) and brother in laws. I know in the name of being modern, people made their definition of relatives, own people very short and I like Toasty for boradening her definition and in return she got the unconiditional love.
I guess the one thing they need to change is to bring atleast a maid in the house. There is no logic behind Toasty doing all household works. I can understand she doing the cooking but not cleaning the house, washing clothes, irnoning shirts etc. Either they bring a maid, pay to get the job done or share the work among themselves. It is disgusting that she has to wash/iron clothes of others.

Unconditional love? How is it unconditional love when time and time again she has had to prove her loyalty to them? When her family is insulted in front of her, when she is literally thrown out of the house on to the streets without as much as thought to what she did for them to that point. I'm sorry but that isn't unconditional love in anyway to me. The only one that loved her unconditionally was Gyan - and to a point Tej (It's unfortunate that I have to say "to a point" about her husband)
And no I didn't get my facts wrong - while they never forced her, they compelled her to take that decision. She would have gone back to work had they not made a drama about how she has responsibilities at home and had Pashu not talked about how he wasn't allowed to fulfill his dreams. So while in the end they said 'sure she can do what she wants'...it was passive aggressive. And Toasty being the understanding person she is, decided to look at the silver lining
However, I don't think that by working she would have been any less a daughter-in-law. I don't think being modern means making the definition of relatives short as you say. Does that mean every girl who wants to step out and have her own life while still loving her family is not worthy of being called a good daughter-in-law? Could she not have worked and taught Gyan and Prachin at the same time? I guess it's just my thinking but i was seriously disappointed by the definition of a good daughter-in-law in what appears on the surface to be a show out of the norm
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cloudz

Unconditional love? How is it unconditional love when time and time again she has had to prove her loyalty to them? When her family is insulted in front of her, when she is literally thrown out of the house on to the streets without as much as thought to what she did for them to that point. I'm sorry but that isn't unconditional love in anyway to me. The only one that loved her unconditionally was Gyan - and to a point Tej (It's unfortunate that I have to say "to a point" about her husband)

And no I didn't get my facts wrong - while they never forced her, they compelled her to take that decision. She would have gone back to work had they not made a drama about how she has responsibilities at home and had Pashu not talked about how he wasn't allowed to fulfill his dreams. So while in the end they said 'sure she can do what she wants'...it was passive aggressive. And Toasty being the understanding person she is, decided to look at the silver lining
However, I don't think that by working she would have been any less a daughter-in-law. I don't think being modern means making the definition of relatives short as you say. Does that mean every girl who wants to step out and have her own life while still loving her family is not worthy of being called a good daughter-in-law? Could she not have worked and taught Gyan and Prachin at the same time? I guess it's just my thinking but i was seriously disappointed by the definition of a good daughter-in-law in what appears on the surface to be a show out of the norm

sorry -I am not sure if you are trying to prove a point not related to this serial . For clarification, I have nothing against ladies who are working and I fully trust that they can love their families equally as Toasty.
However, I do not have a bias where I think women sacrificing their job are not modern.
I am rather strongly against this pseudo modrnism of branding every housewife as backdated.
I trust in people doing whatver best suits them and do not try to classify them. I have highest respct for all those mothers/wives who have sacrificed their employment for their kids/families.
Hope this makes it clear.
I do not think the serial is at all trying to potray the fact that doing household works is the definition of good daugheter in law , what it is probably showing is if somone is proudy in her modernism and start revolting from day 1, only thing it achieves is breaking the family. You have to first establish yourself as a part of the family and thn try to change it. Toasty has now gained the trust and next step would be to change the family.
That is how it should work and not the Malati way.
Discussing what they did in throwing Toasty out is meaningless now as the whole world including them knows it was a kind of crime and they have apologised for it at the higehst level. They have repented enough to please everyone other than Malti's mom.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I AGREE WITH YOU IN SUMM STUUF BUT AS THE OTHER PERSON SAY THE CTS DONT THINK HARD AS US LOL

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