A Bollywood music composer’s lament

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Its an old interview....but very interesting one....
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A Bollywood music composer's lament

By Subhash K. Jha, Indo-Asian News Service (byline mandatory) Mumbai, July 24 (IANS) He has always been the odd one out.


Rajesh Roshan holds a special place among the music composers who crash-landed after Laxmikant-Pyarelal and R.D. Burman. He works at his own pace and doesn't allow his style to be dictated by music charts.

Now he is back in the news for his tunes in brother Rakesh Roshan's "Koi Mil Gaya". But the reclusive man told IANS in an interview that today's Bollywood composers had little to look forward to. Here are excerpts:


Q: Why don't we hear more of your compositions?

A: I can't work the way composers are required to function today. It's very essential to get film music back on the right track. I've always composed the way I felt was right. But I've adapted to changing trends. I remember I was the first composer to use a synthesiser in my songs for "Papa Kehte Hain".


Q: Being closely associated with your brother Rakesh Roshan's films from the time he produced "Kaam Chor" has restricted your output?

A: Not really. The problem is with the type of films being made. I don't think anyone is interested in quality music. Today's films might be successful but they lack actual merit. A composer has nothing to look forward to.

For a film called "Moksha" I composed the songs after the scenes were already shot. I pleaded with them to shoot after recording the songs. But they didn't listen to me.


Q: At times like these do you feel like a misfit?

A: I do feel like a misfit. But I've never lost my balance. In recent times, "Gadar", "Devdas" and "Lagaan" were fine films. I'd have loved to compose for them. I tune very well with Basu Chatterjee and a filmmaker called Rakesh Kumar who produced "Yaaraana" and "Mr Natwarlal". I consider the songs of these two films among my highlights.

I'd love to work with Sanjay Leela Bhansali. He understands music. I'm doing a film for Basu Chatterjee called "Prateeksha". I did some of my better work for his films like "Priyatama", "Swami" and "Khatta Meetha".


Q: Do you think your songs in "Koi Mil Gaya" will be as successful as "Kaho Na...Pyar Hai"?


A: I never expected so much appreciation for "Koi Mil Gaya". I was very scared about people's expectation after "Kaho Na...Pyar Hai". "Koi Mil Gaya" was more difficult to compose. We were constantly conscious of doing something out of the ordinary. It'd have been the easiest thing in the world for me to copy the "Kaho Na...Pyar Hai" formula. I had to avoid that at any cost.

My brother Rakesh Roshan helped me stay true to my tunes. For instance I had composed a fast title track, like "Kaho Na...Pyar Hai". My brother told me to redo the tune, make it less conventional.


Q: Which have been your most satisfying scores?

A: I don't know why, but my songs in "Yaaraana" are close to my heart. Then there's "Julie", "Kunwara Baap" and "Kaho Na...Pyar Hai". Now there's "Koi Mil Gaya". And if you ask me to pick my one favourite song, it'd have to be "Dil kya kare" from "Julie".

I've been trying to compose songs keeping the layman in mind. Some years ago when Nadeem-Shravan came into our films I learnt the virtues of accessibility. I wondered why they made such a strong impact. I realised my music needed to be appreciated by the maximum number of people.


Q: Producers say you save your best tunes for your brother.

A: See it's all about fine-tuning. Many producers come prepared to strike down my tunes no matter what. They don't have any faith in the music director. On the other hand a music-minded filmmaker like Subhash Ghai had okayed all my compositions in "Vishwanath" without any fuss.

In my brother's production, "Kaam Chor", there was a duet by Lata Mangeshkar and Kishore Kumar "Tum sang preet lagayi". I had originally offered that tune to Rakesh Kumar. My brother overheard the song. When Rakesh Kumar rejected it, my brother grabbed it for his film. Our father was a reputed composer himself, so my brother knows how to get the best out of me.


Q: Do you feel handicapped by the quality of voices?

A: Surely I do. I miss recording with the golden voices like Lataji and Kishore Kumar. When they'd record a song for me, I'd proudly strut around with the tune like a prized possession. I'm trying very, very hard to work with new voices, like Pamela Jain, Shweta Pandit, Madhushree and Shreya Ghosal.

But no one seems interested in quality work. All they want to do is earn
some money, buy a bungalow and a few cars.


Q: And the male voices?

A: There's a problem with the male singers. Producers insist that I use the established voices. They aren't that adamant about the female voices.


--Indo-Asian News Service
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thanks Didi for sharing a nice article. Please help me to understand why people like Rajesh Roshan saying that he feel handicapped by the quality of the voices.

Sorry to say Didi do not agree with him on that point my reason and my point is that now we have more singer more competition and more advancement of music in this era then golden era. I think those MD are handicapped them self rather than new voices, like Pamela Jain, Shweta Pandit, Madhushree and Shreya Ghosal.



Q: Do you feel handicapped by the quality of voices?

A: Surely I do. I miss recording with the golden voices like Lataji and Kishore Kumar. When they'd record a song for me, I'd proudly strut around with the tune like a prized possession. I'm trying very, very hard to work with new voices, like Pamela Jain, Shweta Pandit, Madhushree and Shreya Ghosal.

But no one seems interested in quality work. All they want to do is earn some money, buy a bungalow and a few cars.
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Q: Do you feel handicapped by the quality of voices?

A: Surely I do. I miss recording with the golden voices like Lataji and Kishore Kumar. When they'd record a song for me, I'd proudly strut around with the tune like a prized possession. I'm trying very, very hard to work with new voices, like Pamela Jain, Shweta Pandit, Madhushree and Shreya Ghosal.

But no one seems interested in quality work. All they want to do is earn some money, buy a bungalow and a few cars.

This is the part even i hv objection....one thing these current day composes need to understand is they will hv to change according to the time. everyone does it be it in any field. If they go on brooding about past....and try to stick to that without giving thought to the current taste and demands of the market then they are bound to face this problem.

But to make such a statement i feel is like downplaying these current generation singers.....I agree none can be like Lata but why not take them as they are. Shreya is exceptional so are many upcoming ones. making such comemnts on these new singers - sorry to say but i feel is not in good taste.

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Originally posted by: Barnali


This is the part even i hv objection....one thing these current day composes need to understand is they will hv to change according to the time. everyone does it be it in any field. If they go on brooding about past....and try to stick to that without giving thought to thecurrent taste and demands of the marketthen they are bound to face this problem.


But to make such a statement i feel is like downplaying these current generation singers.....I agree none can be like Lata but why not take them as they are. Shreya is exceptional so are many upcoming ones. making such comemnts on these new singers - sorry to say but i feel is not in good taste.



No but i fully agree with Rajesh Roshan. It is true that lots of VERY VERY GOOD SINGERS (MALE) are around but not with a PERFECT VOICE. there is no DEPTH IN THE VOICE, SOME OF THEM THOUGH THE SONG IS GOOD, TUNE IS GOOD SINGING 100% TECHINICALLY PERFECT BUT THERE IS BONE LIKE or the LUMP like sound IN THEIR THROAT, I AM NOT REMEMBERING THE NAME.

You hear the voices of Mohammed Rafi or Kishore Kumar or any earlier singer or Shaan. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A HEAVY VOICE BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A DEPTH ALSO AND AT THE SAME TIME SOOTHING VOICE. CLOSE YOUR EYES AND HEAR THE SWEETNESS IN THEIR VOICES.

With exceptions of very few may be one or two male one is that good. Yes female quite a few good ones with good voiceS are around.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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First of all please do refrain from using Capital Letters it's against forum rules. 😊

Now as far as male singers goes. Do you mean to say singers like Sonu, Kunal Ganjawala, KK, Abhijeet, Sukhwinder and many more are not upto the mark???

I too feel he has made some really rude remarks. Gone bit too far with this comment of his. He needs to learn to move forward now. The legends will always remain legends. Lets cherish them but with it let us also give these current singers their dues.

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Rajesh Roshan is certainly entitled to his opinion because he has worked with singers like Kishore, Lata, Asha etc as well as the new ones like Kumar Sanu, Udit Narayan, Kunal Ganjawaala, Lucky Ali etc. He must have seen a difference in the attitude of the singers, their devotion to their craft and so on.

Why blame him for his opinion which he would have formed based on his own experiences? Besides, he is not one of those MDs who could not keep up with the times. Every movie he composed for including the last one - has had some hit songs which shows that he knows how to compose even for the new generation.

He said that when Kishore or Lata recorded a song for him, he felt as if it was a prized possession. Indeed, "Dil kya kare" should be his prized possession, it is so beautifully composed. How can he get the same satisfaction from a song like "Na tum jaano na hum" sung by Lucky Ali?
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: punjini

Rajesh Roshan is certainly entitled to his opinion because he has worked with singers like Kishore, Lata, Asha etc as well as the new ones like Kumar Sanu, Udit Narayan, Kunal Ganjawaala, Lucky Ali etc. He must have seen a difference in the attitude of the singers, their devotion to their craft and so on.

Why blame him for his opinion which he would have formed based on his own experiences? Besides, he is not one of those MDs who could not keep up with the times. Every movie he composed for including the last one - has had some hit songs which shows that he knows how to compose even for the new generation.

He said that when Kishore or Lata recorded a song for him, he felt as if it was a prized possession. Indeed, "Dil kya kare" should be his prized possession, it is so beautifully composed. How can he get the same satisfaction from a song like "Na tum jaano na hum" sung by Lucky Ali?

punjini ji thanks yes do agree that he certainly entitled to his opinion. It is he who was blaming the new era. Like as you said, he is not one of those MDs who could not keep up with the times. That is why he said at times he do feel like a misfit. Each Era is serving there time for there generation. Change is something that is bound to happen but people like Rajesh Roshan Lata ji Asha ji and few what is left, should come out and hand the torch to this new generation and recognize them to move ahead and keep the torch lite.

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Originally posted by: punjini

He said that when Kishore or Lata recorded a song for him, he felt as if it was a prized possession. Indeed, "Dil kya kare" should be his prized possession, it is so beautifully composed. How can he get the same satisfaction from a song like "Na tum jaano na hum" sung by Lucky Ali?

Well I totally disagree with your logic here.If he cannot derive the same pleasure that he did with dil kya kare, then the fault lies not in what he is hearing but on what he has done... Its his duty to get the composition right and then the singer for that right.If he messed that up then too bad, he can't derive the same pleasure.Its as simple as that.

As a MD he should know which song effect will be what when delivered by the chosen singer.If one MD does not know it and can't get his choice of singer right, then sorry to say, the fault lies not with the singer but with the music director himself.If he was not to deliver satisfaction from Lucky Ali's rendition for Na tum jaano na hum, then why did he make Lucky sing it in the first place?

Its always easy to pass the buck off or lament of days gone by instead of doing something about it...Even in todays time, we have some good songs,some very versatile and good singers too..its simply how adventurous the MD can be and how determined can he be in what he desires.These guys first compromise on their composition quality and then blame the singers.

Golden days should be cherished ,but staying back in the golden days and only lamenting can't fetch results. Times change, life moves on and along with that one should adapt and yet deliver the best."Albela sajan ", a song of today created as much magic as a golden song. Rajesh Roshan has a golden advantage.He has a home production unit where he can explore and experiment .So instead of downgrading the current singers, he should create magical numbers.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Some people need to get over their Golden Era fixation. Who knows? Lata, Rafi, Kishore, et al were probably not as dedicated as Miyan Tansen (if we interviewed Akbar)!
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Originally posted by: advil

Well I totally disagree with your logic here.If he cannot derive the same pleasure that he did with dil kya kare, then the fault lies not in what he is hearing but on what he has done... Its his duty to get the composition right and then the singer for that right.If he messed that up then too bad, he can't derive the same pleasure.Its as simple as that.

As a MD he should know which song effect will be what when delivered by the chosen singer.If one MD does not know it and can't get his choice of singer right, then sorry to say, the fault lies not with the singer but with the music director himself.If he was not to deliver satisfaction from Lucky Ali's rendition for Na tum jaano na hum, then why did he make Lucky sing it in the first place?

Its always easy to pass the buck off or lament of days gone by instead of doing something about it...Even in todays time, we have some good songs,some very versatile and good singers too..its simply how adventurous the MD can be and how determined can he be in what he desires.These guys first compromise on their composition quality and then blame the singers.

Golden days should be cherished ,but staying back in the golden days and only lamenting can't fetch results. Times change, life moves on and along with that one should adapt and yet deliver the best."Albela sajan ", a song of today created as much magic as a golden song. Rajesh Roshan has a golden advantage.He has a home production unit where he can explore and experiment .So instead of downgrading the current singers, he should create magical numbers.


Note the part where he says that producers insist on using only established male voices. Which in those days would be Kumar Sanu, Udit Narayan and Sonu Nigam. Obviously, he won't get the satisfaction from them as from Kishore. Don't know why he tried Lucky Ali though.

He is just being frank when he says that a certain composition pleases him more than others. If he wants to be diplomatic and correct, he can just say that all his songs are the same for him.

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