Ismail Durbar's compositions - Page 5

Originally posted by: chatbuster

maybe because that kind of music appeals to only a very niche audience these days? ..sadly true. in this scenario, we very well can see how much impact the teens have on music world...and their likes are more inclined towards hip-hop, rap, pop or remixes.

btw, dosnt it get repetitive and boring listening to just the same compositions over and over again? ..i mean depends what taste u have . i personally cant listen to any compositions repeatedly at any given time unless they appeal me deeply ..for instance in HDDCS, tadap tadap i can listen at regular intervals ..others i am afraid i cant.

i could tolerate the HDDCS music just because of aish and when seeing the movie, but cant see myself listening to that audio otherwise, ....yeah agreed that these songs were visual treats and aish for the first and last time looked so divine that even while listening to them u subconsciously vizualized her and the lavishness..

let alone repeatedly after all these years😊

i would pick tadap tadap from HDDCS and sheeshe se sheesha takaraye..from devdaas as my personal fav. although i didnt really like to hear nimbooda and dola re which were assumed to be more famous then the rest ........but over all, good package.. .i mean can listen to them without fast forwarding ..

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

I think ID's music is very similar to ARR's. Which is also why in some of the movies he's done (Devdas, Kisna), he's had to share the music with ARR - and not many people even realized the difference.

The flip side of this is that ek jungle mein do sher nahi reh sakte, so ID is finding it hard to bag the few movies that involve his style of music - those are already taken by ARR.

shady i kind of agree with you except for the highlighted part.... i mean we all know that ARR is very selective regarding the banner and other stuff and never took too many assignments at a time so the producers those who intended to work with ARR but failed could have easily approached ID ..but strangely didnt happen 😕

Originally posted by: chatbuster

ok, let's analyze that. HDDCS and the rest of his stuff is markedly different sounding than what came before. (ditto for ARR, another guy whose "moosic" i cant stand). now if what came before was the golden era kind of melodies and tune, what does that say about the ID kind of music? different?😉😆

hey , am not a music person so cant use the exact words to explain but what i feel is ARR and ID music had freshness and melody and ofcourse was experimental . so it was a welcomed change with lotsa usage of intruments ..that made it stand out from the others. and another thing is , their compositions are complex and cant appeal in one go..it gradually catches up...so that is how it is different from other kinds..😆. ok, i may be wrong....but cant analyze further at this time...so mebbe will come later ..( ps: i guess i am better off with one liners then this lengthy replies .. grrrrrrr 😆)

Originally posted by: ritzbitz

hey , am not a music person so cant use the exact words to explain but what i feel is ARR and ID music had freshness and melody and ofcourse was experimental . so it was a welcomed change with lotsa usage of intruments ..that made it stand out from the others. and another thing is , their compositions are complex and cant appeal in one go..it gradually catches up...so that is how it is different from other kinds..😆. ok, i may be wrong....but cant analyze further at this time...so mebbe will come later ..( ps: i guess i am better off with one liners then this lengthy replies .. grrrrrrr 😆)

haha, different it sure is. experimental maybe. but melodious? not more than most stuff out there. even the songs from a lowly gangster sounded more melodious imo.😊

i think there are two main genres- melody and then everything else. the ID/ ARR stuff is just different and mostly belongs in the second category. that's already a pretty crowded field imo with folks like HR, RFK and preetam who have a better pulse and sense of what is appealing and musical to most ears these days. so doesnt leave folks like ID with much.

will just leave this with a thought. so many ppl apparently think ID's music is so hummable. wonder why film producers dont think like that then. we've also been putting down alternative music as being teen-oriented. but movie audiences are not just teens. they are also older ppl in their 20s and 30s. they all cannot be un-refined, can they?😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

wonder why film producers dont think like that then. we've also been putting down alternative music as being teen-oriented. but movie audiences are not just teens. they are also older ppl in their 20s and 30s. they all cannot be un-refined, can they?😊

In recent times Water, Yatra scores have been just awesome. But how many of them did you really find climbing the charts? Excepting may be one song by jojo in yatra the rest were all masterpieces, but they all did not not get into the top 10 , may be one or two did. The problem is film producers want a music director who name would sell , its a craze that is working. Bus jo bikta hain. The current musical taste again is a current fad which is dictating the choices of the producers. It is because of these choices that some other MD's pale into oblivion, not because they are not good, because they dont compromise on times need.

Originally posted by: advil

In recent times Water, Yatra scores have been just awesome. But how many of them did you really find climbing the charts? Excepting may be one song by jojo in yatra the rest were all masterpieces, but they all did not not get into the top 10 , may be one or two did. The problem is film producers want a music director who name would sell , its a craze that is working. Bus jo bikta hain. The current musical taste again is a current fad which is dictating the choices of the producers. It is because of these choices that some other MD's pale into oblivion, not because they are not good, because they dont compromise on times need.

not sure if i buy that. first, i think the big film producers have been giving a lot of MDs a break and not sticking with only the big names. that's how we have gotten to the large number of few-hit wonder MD's that we have today. like the IDs?😊

second, if music was the key determinant for a movie's success, then movies where HR has composed would be the biggest hits, since his songs are the biggest hits generally. but that's not always been the case. while music screenplay might be important, bigger factors are usually producer/ director/ actor/ actress/ story line imo.

third, someone like a karan johar or a yash chopra have made the careers of a lot of people. If they thought someone had the talent and it could be projected to the masses, they'd go for it. they've taken those risks with relative newcomers before. if they dont continue with ID, maybe it's because they realize there's better?😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

If they thought that someone had the talent and it could be projected to the masses, they'd go for it. they've taken those risks with people before. if they dont continue with ID, maybe it's because they realize there's better?😊

Actually its all subjective and the definition of good or better differs from person to person. I dont think think ID suffered due to not being good, who knows, may be he is temperamental or difficult to work with, or perhaps he may not be wanting to compromise on a song or situation because the script or the producer needs it. May be his inter personal relation skills are poor.may be he does not market himself the right way, there are so many ifs and buts. If talent alone was the selling point, dont you think in the filmworld then an actor like Manoj bajpai would be more in demand than a emraan hashmi ?

There are plenty of good MD's also still around, but are they in demand? no...

Originally posted by: advil

Actually its all subjective and the definition of good or better differs from person to person. I dont think think ID suffered due to not being good, who knows, may be he is temperamental or difficult to work with, or perhaps he may not be wanting to compromise on a song or situation because the script or the producer needs it. May be his inter personal relation skills are poor.may be he does not market himself the right way, there are so many ifs and buts. If talent alone was the selling point, dont you think in the filmworld then an actor like Manoj bajpai would be more in demand than a emraan hashmi ?

There are plenty of good MD's also still around, but are they in demand? no...

first, i think i have made other points up there. this deals with just one aspect of it. no point repeating.

second, big producers have the power to sign on most people and make them behave. if they really thought they'd get a hit on their hands by signing on an ID, some producer or the other would come around to accommodate him. we see that with star athletes also who might otherwise be problem guys. they still get signed on and not shunned by everyone.

third, as for the manoj bajpai comparison, look he's a favorite even with me. but i wld hardly consider him to be leading star material. like it or not, hashmi is. he does come across as a flamboyant glib lover-boy doesnt he? and that's what leading roles generally require, not a serious character artist.

Originally posted by: buttercup

Kisna is good..
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especially the song by ARR😊

Originally posted by: chatbuster

If they thought that someone had the talent and it could be projected to the masses, they'd go for it. they've taken those risks with people before. if they dont continue with ID, maybe it's because they realize there's better?😊

One cannot question ID's talent. Talented he sure is.
I couldn't care for HDDCS much, but I liked many numbers in Devdas. I wonder if his music is stereotypical though.
ARR- non melodious sterotypical, ID- melodious but stereotyped.

Perhaps there is more variety given by other MDs with some melodies and some fun numbers- a mix of songs what a movie sound track desires. I also wonder if attitude / behavioural matters hamper his bagging movies. I am not aware of what he demands behind big screens 😊.