first caught fraud in reality shows - Page 3

Originally posted by: iuh_31

manav and sweta really have a bad reputation now since this has happened. they did a very unethical and wrong thing! 😡

Please donot try to bad mouth any contestant. It is not unethical. Yes could be wrong. Try sailing in same boat, before you accuse anyone😊

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

For first part, I think Abhi it is the dealer , who will be in trouble, he is not supposed to sell that many to one person.

Had he informed the buyer, they will not do it. ( In us that would have been the case..not sure how it is handled there) Here you need to show ID to buy certain things and if you sell it without checking, trouble comes for the seller.

ok lets discuss some law related to the article.... In India both seller and buyer can be framed.... but buyer under suspicion..... manav will escape with a fine as he did not commit any crime with that.... but the numbers came into light because of some problematic SMS to some people... so he may be fined for that.....

again ignorance of law of land is not an excuse in India even for an illiterate...... so manav cant say tht he did not know he cant buy so many sim cards..... so he can be fined plus w/e punishment as per the depth of those problematic SMS

For second part yes, the channel should clear out the rules, but they can always escpae saying it is a amendment in their rules due to this incident.

They will always find way Out

Also what Manav did is also not unusual. They all have done it. But yes you are not criminal till you get caught. I dont get this channel here but personally have liked them as actors and couple. To ground them on this is not right. If they steal money or steal Simms or stop someone to vote ofr others..is different issue.

I dont think they can escape like that.... they will have to prove that all the votes were considered and not only 20 per number...... or they will have to prove that any SMS/calls from one number above 20 were not charged and if charged by the tel company the revenue was not shared by the production house..... thts the only way
Here htey are helping their friends to vote for themself.

Do our politicians not buy vote?????? So persoannly for me., It does not make them bad people

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

But why is this shocking>???? WHo wouldnot do this.
Are we also not going to ask our friends and family to support us.
If they gave it to their friends as long as it was not against the contest rule, it is fine..what is th ebig deal. Atleast they were spending their own money.
DId same thing not happen earlier for Chaleenge 2005.
Where the programs were written to vote constantly and Zee finally came up with code then.

COmpetition now a days are more like a war. Talent does not win. THe one who can produce more scandals wins.
Talk about BF & GF is not any cheaper then this??????????????

Exactly my thoughts. Why should it be termed as fraud. If someone else votes for the contestants 500 times, then that is OK, but if the contestants urge their friends to vote then it is a fraud. How can it be termed fraud. This has happened in all reality shows.

During C2005 Hema's parents spent lacs of rupees for advertisements. Does anyone believe that they did not buy sim cards in a bunch and distibuted among friends? If someone has the means, they will always do that. This is all a part of the game. This is not a ethics class or competition, this is a war. War amongst the contestants and war amongst their supporters. During C2005, the Vinit and Debu fans were at each others throats all the time. We did not care about anything else.

Atleast Sweta Kwatra and her husband spent their own money too and not the money of poor people.

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

Abhi, Not for a second think that I am againgst our Nation. But the Law you are talking really have no stand. Look at the leaders/MPs we have. DO you really think law fully they could be there?? Next upcoming leader is Abu Salem. Yes we make a law but also find back doors to control it. SO Seller will have more liability, Buyer will be able to escape for sure. Specially in this case. He can always show so many people told him to buy also because he could not buy so many so they were under the name of dealer's worker (Atleast this is what I read in one of the news)
So ignorance does play a big role specially when itis committed first time in such cases.

Secondly , it can not be proved that he was involved in sending those messages as even police records confirmed that they were sent by husband. Now Manav can also claim if he says he bought them, they were stolen or misplaced.

Now for voting pattern, who does not know that they are counted by computer programmes. India is best in writing softwares, THey will easily play with it. It will be a clean case. Also if they claim it as an amendment from now, will be a piece of cake for them.

THe question here was if vote buying is wrong. TO me no it was not wrong, if channel had not ruled it out prior to competition it.

I agree with only this part........ the Indian law is not the problem, but the people implementing it is a problem..... a nice lawyer can easily prove some crimes by them....... but yes manav is not punishable with imprisonment..... but he may have to pay fines and it can be proven.... i agree buying votes is not legally crime so never mentioned it in my charges...... it was only buying so many cards in one name that is crime.... and if he bought in some one elses name it is even severe crime😆

rest the production house also crime can be proved but u need loyal law implementors with adequate knowledge of laws

Article in News

This is one of the biggest news to have hit the world of entertainment this part of the Indian Ocean. A celebrity couple TV actors Manav Gohil and Shweta Kwatra had allegedly distributed 200 sim cards to their friends and acquaintances to vote for them via SMS. For the uninitiated lemme give you dope on what 'Nach Baliye 2' is all about. It's the second coming for a very popular dance based reality show on Star One channel where celebrity couples from the world of television shake their booty and other than a panel of judges dance guru Saroj Khan, beautilicious Malaika Arora Khan (More famous for her repeated wardrobe malfunction on the show) and film director Kunal Kohli (Of 'Hum Tum' and 'Fanaa' fame).

Now, the judges are a mere prop for it is the coveted public vote via SMS that decides the fate of the warring couples. It is being said that all the reality shows have some sort of rigging or the other but since Manav and Shweta (Famous for her vamp acts in many K Serials) got caught the whole world is asking for their ouster from the show. Star One reiterated in a press release that the rules and regulations set for 'Nach Baliye 2' have not been violated in any way whatsoever by any of its participants.

Sameer Nair, CEO Star Entertainment India, says, "We have definitely encouraged all Nach Baliye participants to canvas for votes, and many of them have gone the extra mile to do so - from printing posters and distributing them, traveling to different parts of the country and canvassing, urging their family, friends and fans to vote for them in large numbers, to getting special "vote for us" T-shirts created. The rules of 'Nach Baliye 2' state clearly that no more than 20 votes will be accepted from any one landline, cell number or email id per episode. The participants are committed to abiding by all the rules of the show, and our systems are robust enough to ensure that all set rules and regulations are followed in toto."

'Nach Baliye 2' is one example, while there are several other highly popular reality based shows on other channels as well. And, all these shows encourage SMS voting. And considering the huge numbers, the revenue generated through SMSs is worth a fortune. Add the advertising revenue and the channels are laughing all the way to the bank. These television stars are considered to be role models to the society. But does the Big Money culture give a damn about values any more?

😛 Yes Abhi, what they did was wrong but still not crime, WHo does nto want to promote themselves. How ever how they approached could be wrong. They were not playing smartly.Under seperate reviews i do read that they are liked as dance couple. To ask for outshed them on this basis is totaly wrong. THis reminds me when Hema's father was accused of spending lakhs for his publicity

😃 May be I should watch one of their episode 😆 to see if the money they spend was even worth while 😉

Thanks Abhi, It was nice talking to you. after long time a good argument with valid points😃

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

😛 Yes Abhi, what they did was wrong but still not crime, WHo does nto want to promote themselves. How ever how they approached could be wrong. They were not playing smartly.Under seperate reviews i do read that they are liked as dance couple. To ask for outshed them on this basis is totaly wrong. THis reminds me when Hema's father was accused of spending lakhs for his publicity

😃 May be I should watch one of their episode 😆 to see if the money they spend was even worth while 😉

Thanks Abhi, It was nice talking to you. after long time a good argument with valid points😃

if it is legally wrong then it is crime😕 yah if its ethically wrong but not legally its not a crime😊