SRGMP Challenge Third round results - Page 9

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

If you look at it from the point of the mentor Appaji, it makes sense. Last round he had all 4 contestants, and two of them had to leave for personal reasons, despite being on top. Now he is left with just one - Deepak. If Deepak too gets eliminated in the next round, which is possible, then Appaji is out of the show - even before the halfway point.

I think that's a bit harsh on him, him going out early because his contestants had some more important priorities come up. So in order to make up for that, they're giving him a wild-card entry, so it can make up a bit for the loss, and also keep him in the show a bit longer. Otherwise it's just you and Punjini ji for most of the show - which will get a little boring.

I have had three of my contestants had severe sore throats and have found myself playing Munna Bhai to fix the situation. The fourth one had her grandmother pass away and could not rehearse. I never complained to this point. Being a bridge player, I have learnt to win regardless of the cards dealt to you. You find a way to win regardless of the hand you are dealt with. I "sympathize" absolutely with Appa's situation but look at what you are offering/considering to do (totally unacceptable to me):

1. Change the rules of the game in the midst of the game by allowing to add a contestant.

2. Allow a mentor to pick a contestant - I thought contestants picked their mentors so this would a second change in the rules of the game. (if this was even true in the first place....😉)

We all like Appa so much so, I say we should keep modifying the rules throughout this contest and keep one final rule change in our hip pocket (that rule being: Only Appa can win and introduce that when the time comes).

If you analyze the above logically, this by definition, is politics.

PS: You find Punjini and me in the game "Boring" .... hmmmmm.... this is discounting Solid snake (ala Deepak) and putting the other 2 mentors down - again a sign of politics and lack of support for your favorite Gharana's candidate.....

No offense meant to anyone here - I have full faith in Deepak and feel he will carry his Gharana on his shoulders ..... I do not discount him at all. I think he is very good. Let me find my 50 Rupee note .......😉😆😆

Appajee: My sincere sympathies for your situation but you and I are both disciplined, logical and fair Engineers and I hope you will understand where I am coming from.

Originally posted by: shadyhtown

If you look at it from the point of the mentor Appaji, it makes sense. Last round he had all 4 contestants, and two of them had to leave for personal reasons, despite being on top. Now he is left with just one - Deepak. If Deepak too gets eliminated in the next round, which is possible, then Appaji is out of the show - even before the halfway point.

I think that's a bit harsh on him, him going out early because his contestants had some more important priorities come up. So in order to make up for that, they're giving him a wild-card entry, so it can make up a bit for the loss, and also keep him in the show a bit longer. Otherwise it's just you and Punjini ji for most of the show - which will get a little boring.

Totally with Shady on this... I think it has been very unfortunate for Appa to lose 2 strongest members of his gharana for completely non-musical reasons.. No one is at fault here for Ummm and Sunitha not being able to participate any further, but it has certainly left the Yalgaar gharana deserted... He should have wild-card entries here to strengthen his team and re-inforce competition...

To address Sur's concerns, I think its not unfair for the eliminated singers here as Ummm and Sunitha were the toppers for the first 2 weeks and unfortunately those elimiated were at the bottom of the ladder, so even if it was not Ummm and Sunitha, judges found other singers who sailed through better than them... Also, as for Appa getting the privilege to choose the wildcard entrant, lets not forget that the singers whom he lost were the toppers, so atleast he should get someone comparable as the wild-card; or else its not worth the effort and the discussions..

Just wanted to share my thoughts on the issue😊

Jayajee: Politics at its best - eggjakly eespeaking !! 😉

Sorry but I find a lot of speculation and lack of logic in your comment.

Originally posted by: Surpremi

My sincere congratulations to all the winners and heart felt regrets for the losers. Coolest one - you are cool and do not let anyone tell you otherwise. Ultimately, there will be only one winner, so the fun is in the journey and not the destination.

I have to raise 3 serious questions about additions at this time and I want everyone to be fair in their thinking (No biases):
1. Don't you feel it will be unfair to the people eliminated if we add someone now - they could say, well, they did not get to compete with this new person.
2. Don't you feel it is wrong to change the rules of the game in the middle of the game and add someone now.
3. If it is true that the mentors truly did not get to pick their contestants (I did'nt as I was out all that week - Bhaskar and Anol are witnesses) then would it fair play to adopt that practice now?

I understand that emotions are riding high and reasoning is out of the door but I feel I have to be fair to the existing survivors and raise these 3 questions in their defense. I urge all of you to think hard, and not with your heart, when you address this. I sure have. We have all had our fun moments here but this one is a serious one to evaluate and consider.

Remember, there will be another contest after this, as indicated by Bhaskar, so there will be a chance for more singers to participate.

To the folks in my Gharana: Congratualtions !! Keep up the good work. You have all made me proud !!

yeah i do believe in enjoying the journey but the journey has been a really short one u know.see i dont believe that i should have been eliminated this time.i know i didnt deserve to win this competition anyway but i should have gone further.also im just saying that everyone should be given a chance to try for appa's one seat in the gharana.that doesnt only include me but also sweety 001 who i think was in ur gharaana surpremiji so that does not exactly make me uncool.im just stating my opinion.even in c-2005 during bramhastra time all participants were allowed to appeal for votes im doing nothing different.also i hope people arent misinterpreting that i have criticized the desicion of the judges.i havent.im just saying i should be given a chance to compete for the one remaining spot in appa's gharaana

and yes surpremiji if god forbid musaed or bollywood queen had some similar problems and were unable to participate due to some reason ud do the same as what appa is doing so its just a circumstantial decision that has been made

also id be interested to know what this next contest is gonna be.hope its not emet bit difficult to sing duets with persons a hundred miles away

okay guys u are taking this abit too much. I am sure Appa himself would not want this..I think if he took a participant rt now it would notbe that he is afraid of getting out..I think its to allow someone the opportunity to participate

As U said Sur, Appa is very mature, andby the rules kind of guy and will never question, judges, producers, etc...

Its the audience, and punjini one of the mentors I recall saying that its ok 4 Appa to have a participant...Well I think after this longdebate Appa probably will not include another person.

So I guess producers we will let things stand as they are ? afterall I remeber its upto Appa.

Sur as u recall, in ek main aur ek tu the veto rule was new, also in actual sa re too new rules were added as well...yet lets see..

All I will say is that well Appa, Sur,Punjini U all are good, and abideby the rules😊

Aslo,I am not taking anyone's side if any other mentor had a similar situation I think this option wouldbe given to them as well..

Peace All
Angelique/Pari

Coolest one: I do not know if you play Bridge or not. I wish a lot of people did. I did it diligently throughout my tenure at IIT (hell, the whole hostel was either playing or watching). The reason I say this is because you can win, and most people do, in Bridge without having the Best cards.

You never complain about the hand you are dealt but rather "win" with what you got. I am sorry for getting philosophical but there is great depth in these words if you and the rest of the IF can dig it ..... 😉

PS: BTW, the same thing did happen to me (both Rani and Musaed went down with a severe sore throat at the same time) and I did not complain. I take the beating and keep on ticking but then again I am a survivor..... so you speculated a bit there in your posting with all due respect to you.

Originally posted by: viper8234

I agree with sur in some aspects and only yalgaar gharana fans are requesting more participants be added. Mind you that the show should not be halted to find more contestants. It should go on. Remember this is all just a game. We all have our lives so losing here is not the end.

Viper Bhaiya, Thx. Also, please read the definition of politics and it will occur to you that this is politiking at its best!! I agree with you - may the best one win and I say : All the best to you and every one contesting - Let us be fair to all here - we cannot keep changing the rules of the game to suit a few people's likings unless ofcourse this game is Politics.

Originally posted by: Surpremi

Coolest one: I do not know if you play Bridge or not. I wish a lot of people did. I did it diligently throughout my tenure at IIT (hell, the whole hostel was either playing or watching). The reason I say this is because you can win, and most people do, in Bridge without having the Best cards.

You never complain about the hand you are dealt but rather "win" with what you got. I am sorry for getting philosophical but there is great depth in these words if you and the rest of the IF can dig it ..... 😉

PS: BTW, the same thing did happen to me (both Rani and Musaed went down with a severe sore throat at the same time) and I did not complain. I take the beating and keep on ticking but then again I am a survivor..... so you speculated a bit there in your posting with all due respect to you.

no i dont play bridge but i play chess and quite well i think.and i have won from bad situations as well.in chess i know that if u loose a piece through ur own mistake or through ur opponents ingenuity that's ok.but if ur asked to play without ur main pieces(say the queen or without two rooks)or at some big disadvantage im sure even grandmasters would find themselves on a losing side

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okay guys u are taking this abit too much. I am sure Appa himself would not want this..I think if he took a participant rt now it would notbe that he is afraid of getting out..I think its to allow someone the opportunity to participate

As U said Sur, Appa is very mature, andby the rules kind of guy and will never question, judges, producers, etc...

Its the audience, and punjini one of the mentors I recall saying that its ok 4 Appa to have a participant...Well I think after this longdebate Appa probably will not include another person.

So I guess producers we will let things stand as they are ? afterall I remeber its upto Appa.

Sur as u recall, in ek main aur ek tu the veto rule was new, also in actual sa re too new rules were added as well...yet lets see..

All I will say is that well Appa, Sur,Punjini U all are good, and abideby the rules😊

Aslo,I am not taking anyone's side if any other mentor had a similar situation I think this option wouldbe given to them as well..

Peace All
Angelique/Pari

Originally posted by: Surpremi

Jayajee: Politics at its best - eggjakly eespeaking !! 😉

Sorry but I find a lot of speculation and lack of logic in your comment.

Politically motivated! - Not really Sur... I was just giving my neutral opinion here.. And believe me, my stance would have been similar for you or Sahana'ji had any of you lost Mussaed or Urmi for such unfortunate reasons...

Anyways, as Angie correctly said - may be even Appa will not like so much of controversies on this issue... So I will leave it to all the mentors and mods to take the final call.. Lekin aaj zamaana public voting ka hai, to apna opinion batana to bahut zaroori tha...😊