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Originally posted by: SolidSnake
This is really sad, yeh zindagi badi hi zalim cheez hai. 🤢
Originally posted by: soulsoup
You said it Solid. It's a real sad story:
By 1957 her marriage had run into rough weather and was on the rocks. Guru Dutt had got romantically involved with his new leading lady Waheeda Rehman.
And the interesting part was that Geeta Dutt during that time sung many of the romantic duet songs of Waheedaji and Guru Dutt.
Though Geeta Dutt was a fantastic singer, if you look at her closely and compare with Asha, you will admit that Asha was a better singer. It's not as if OPN would have been forced by Asha not to take others. When you have a singer like Asha who can do full justice to OPN songs, why would he take anyone else? The same thing happened to SDB too.
I would urge you to listen to this song from Nau do gyaara, "kya ho phir jo din rangeela ha" in which both Asha and Geeta have sung. Asha's voice is clearer and better.
I agree with you Punjini but – coexistence of two legends was quite possible! Only if..
Sir,Originally posted by: soulsoup
Great Post Barnalidi 👏 👏 👏
Sorry I had to read the long article first before commenting here.
I'll get back and post something more here. Qwest Bhai - you have an assignment now! 😊
Doing it as order.
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In her latest tryst with Bollywood, London-based film-maker NASREEN MUNNI KABIR has come out with a book on Guru Dutt's letters to wife Geeta Dutt. She tells Pratim D. Gupta why every work of an artiste should be preserved and published | ||||
How did you chance upon these unpublished letters by Guru Dutt? Guru Dutt's son Arun showed me the letters two years ago where the film-maker had written to his wife Geeta Dutt. At that time what we had to decide was whether it was good or not to publish these personal letters written by a husband to his wife. They were very sad letters and there was nothing controversial in the content. It couldn't have affected his image 40 years after he died. All it could have done was help understand his thinking and their relationship better. And when Guru Dutt's son said yes, there was no problem whatsoever. So why did it take you all this while to come out with the collection? First of all, we wanted to release the book in 2005, the 75th birth anniversary of Geeta Dutt. Then, the design for the book was quite elaborate. The letters themselves were quite frail. So it took some time to materialise. Do they offer a deeper insight into Guru Dutt the film-maker? Two Guru Dutt films — Pyaasa and Kaagaz Ke Phool — are considered to be very autobiographical. That's something we assume. When we see a film and then meet the director, we do not necessarily meet the same person that comes across in his work. But when you read that person's letters, you can observe that same character in both his film and his writings. Everything of an artiste is worth recording, everything should be preserved. And do the letters throw any light on his relationship with Geeta Dutt? We usually talk or write or even know very little of Guru Dutt's marriage. We are only concerned about his other relationships. But here was this woman who had put her career on hold for her family. So, to know about her and their relationship directly from the person 40 years after he's gone is quite a find. It's a little treasure. Do you have any of Geeta Dutt's letters to her husband? Did she reply to his letters at all? She must have, because Guru Dutt mentions in his letters, "I got your reply" and "It was good to hear from you" quite a few times. But we do not have any of her letters. Either he did not keep her letters or they were destroyed when he died. Is there any mention of Waheeda Rehman? There is nothing personal written about her. Did Guru Dutt write to Geeta Dutt about his film-making craft? He did write to her about the logistics of his work. Like, "Today I finished shooting a song" or something as mundane as that. There is not one line boasting of his status as a film-maker. He seems full of self-doubt in the letters. Did he write about the renunciation of the world, something that came across often in his movies? He writes, "I wish I could be as dead as death can be". He asks often in his letters, "Why am I living?" Yes, there is a lot of suicidal thinking in his letters. Do you guide the readers to what the letters mean? The letters are self-explanatory. I did not go for assumption or speculation because one has to respect the dead. You have to remember these letters were not meant for publication. I did it because there is the archival rule that 30 years after a person's death, his personal things can be made public with consent of his family. All I have done in the book is given footnotes to each letter to put the writings in minimum context. Say, if in one of the letters, he mentions "Mama's place", I have written that Mama is Mr Benegal, his uncle… For a documentary film-maker like yourself, what was it like working on a book like this? I had done a long biography on Guru Dutt in 1996. So this was like a natural progression for me. You can say I just pressed the reset button on the computer. This comes just after your documentation of Shah Rukh Khan's life in The Inner World and The Outer World of Shah Rukh Khan… Yes, when I spoke to Shah Rukh, I could see a certain sadness in him. Despite all the success and the glamour that is there, the personal conflicts are always there. That Shah Rukh lost his parents so early in his life will always haunt him. I saw a similar sadness in Guru Dutt around his personal life. I guess that's the commonality between the two works of mine.
Compared to this, translating Javed Akhtar's songs (Talking Songs) must have been a lot easier? Not at all. Translating poetry is difficult in itself. And it becomes terribly difficult to translate songs. Without music, the lyrics are just half the story. Even Paul McCartney's Yesterday sounds so flat on paper. It is the music, the instruments, the voices… that make all the difference. What I did was just translate the meaning of the words of Javed Akhtar's songs so that people who do not understand Hindi or Urdu can at least follow the meaning. Say a Kuch na kaho is Don't say a word… | ||||
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Though Geeta Dutt was a fantastic singer, if you look at her closely and compare with Asha, you will admit that Asha was a better singer. It's not as if OPN would have been forced by Asha not to take others. When you have a singer like Asha who can do full justice to OPN songs, why would he take anyone else? The same thing happened to SDB too.
I would urge you to listen to this song from Nau do gyaara, "kya ho phir jo din rangeela ha" in which both Asha and Geeta have sung. Asha's voice is clearer and better.