which raag is this song set to? - Page 5

Originally posted by: punjini

Asavari.org is a good website but the only problem is that the songs are not searchable. You can go mad trying to find the raga of a particular song. Secondly, a number of songs have been placed under two ragas. You can check it out.

Will anyone help me in letting me know the base-raga for the songs:
Hai re woh dino kyon na aaye (Anuradha)(My guess is Pilu)
Zindagi jab bhi tere bazm (Umrao Jaan) (My guess is Yaman Kalyan)

I did post the Qs to my freind - here goes the reply

Hai re woh dino kyon na aaye (Anuradha)(My guess is Pilu) : Kalavati. one of Pt. Ravi Shankar's favourite ragas. He's invented new ragas out of this one.

Zindagi jab bhi tere bazm (Umrao Jaan) (My guess is Yaman Kalyan) Not sure but it looks something like Mand to me

Update: I goofed up. Zindagi Jab Bhi looks like Kalyan now

sorry...was away in a meeting...just back...

Here is additional information provided by a friend incognito...

"Here's some aditional info courtesy my dear mummy.

Khamaj is equivalent to the 28th Melakarata Ragam Harikamboji. The intriguing thing is, though Khamaj is a light raag in the prem ras - erotic ras, Harikamboji is mostly Bhakti ras. Thyagaraja composed some beautiful kirtis in Harikamboji.

Following is courtesy a friend and me

Rabindrageet is an amalgamation of different musical styles, predominantly Hindustani Classical with a folkish flavour. Yes, Tagore did use western nuances too. Usage of chromatic forms for example. And Piano chords. Chords is predominantly a western concept. we use pure swars, they use combos called chords. Rabindrageet is tripe P - Prem, Prakriti, Puja (courtesy soulsoup).

Salilda and Hemantda took Rabindra and Nazrul geet, gave it poetic form and more romanticism and invented 'Kavyageet'. It became a RAGE.

Piyu Bole has only a little jhalak of Khamaj. But it is there.

Osonaire gave a wonderful link.

If you check thru that site, there's a discourse on Raag Deepak.

Pt. Ram Ashreya Jha explains about the Aarohana and Avrohana of the Raag Deepak, but deters from singing the true one. I've seen fear in musicians when they're requested for Deepak. Ust. Vilayat Khan is the only one who knows the true Raag Deepak and he's flatly denied passing it on to his students.

Btw, the other day I heard his daughter Zila Khan, a sufi singer, give a classical baithak in Varanasi. She was and progressively went towards the end."


psst...pssst..soul...yes it is from............

Hey All
I am getting more and more convinced that "Zindagi jab bhi teri bazm" is based on Chhayanat. Anyone knows Khaiyyam personally?

Fairdog - thanks for bringing this up again - Abhi apka reply please. Sinha da online hei keya?

yesssssssss...I want someone to reconfirm that

- 'Piyu bole...' is basically set to - Khamaj (Harikambhoji) and

- Aashiq Banaya aapne to raag Bhairavi

- anyone can tell me which raag is 'Dus Bahane legaye..'?

- Also the ragas for the songs mentioned by punjini...

Thanks in advance for your knowledge sharing...

The Rabindrageeti that Piyu Bole is based on .. Phule Phule Dhole Dhole was actually composed from an old Irish tune .. it is structured with piano chords..it is not exactly based on any one pure raaga.. that's why you can find traces of different raagas in the song.. but Piu Bole I guess is closer to Khamaj may be..

No one commented on "zindagi jab bhi tere bazm" from Umrao Jaan. Is it Chhayanat?

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

Aashique Banaya looks more like Bhairav than Bhairavi...but I am not sure.

😡

Abhi,

I am shocked to see that you don't have any knowledge of music.

Aashique Banaya is Raag Besura.😉

Originally posted by: punjini

No one commented on "zindagi jab bhi tere bazm" from Umrao Jaan. Is it Chhayanat?

I just listened to it.. sounds like Yaman Kalyan to me !!!