Update for 10/11/05 - Page 4

I think the qustion here is not who is right or who is wrong.. I think all of us agree that we want the show to give us the best singer.. So, what we all think is that when audience votes, let them vote based on the singing abilities and not on other factors.. Somebody coming in from a tough profession or a particular region or beign blessed with better looks does not make them better artists, right! They are here in this show as all of them are good singers. So let the decision of the voters be guided by that and nothing else..

I think, we will clearly get the trend by the final first round results.. lets see..

Originally posted by: jayc1234

I think the qustion here is not who is right or who is wrong.. I think all of us agree that we want the show to give us the best singer.. So, what we all think is that when audience votes, let them vote based on the singing abilities and not on other factors.. Somebody coming in from a tough profession or a particular region or beign blessed with better looks does not make them better artists, right! They are here in this show as all of them are good singers. So let the decision of the voters be guided by that and nothing else..

I think, we will clearly get the trend by the final first round results.. lets see..

I sincerely hope you're proven right, Jaya. Based strictly on the Brahmastra voting, it does not appear that this will be the case. There's no way that Joyeeta should have been 6% points above Sanchali. Aishwarya and Paresh, I dont know - this was a tough one and I'm glad I did not have to make the judgement. I've never liked Aishwarya a lot in the earlier rounds but he was really really good and maybe, just maybe, should have just made it into the final round.

Originally posted by: riddler100

I sincerely hope you're proven right, Jaya. Based strictly on the Brahmastra voting, it does not appear that this will be the case. There's no way that Joyeeta should have been 6% points above Sanchali. Aishwarya and Paresh, I dont know - this was a tough one and I'm glad I did not have to make the judgement. I've never liked Aishwarya a lot in the earlier rounds but he was really really good and maybe, just maybe, should have just made it into the final round.

OK, let's see--

Sanchali- 6%
Aishwarya- 11%
Joyeeta- 13%
Dilshad- 18%
Ujjaini- 19%
Paresh- 30%

* Sanchali and Ujjani were close but Ujjani got 13% more votes
* Aishwarya and Paresh were very close but Paresh got 19% more votes
* Aishwarya certainly did much better than Dilshad but Dilshad got 7% more votes
* Sachali was far far better than Joyeeta but Joyeeta's tally was 7% more.

What does all this indicate?

Except for Dilshad who probably got some sympathy votes, public predominantly went with appearance of the contestants than their singing skills.

While describing his contestants, ID said this about Twinke -- jo dikhati hai who bikati hai. Nothing is more true than that. It is shame that this contest has stooped to this level.

So here are the C2005 winners ------

Boys -- Paresh (by huge margin)
Girls -- Twinkle/Ujjani/Himani ( close fight)

Hema/Debu, Nihira/Swananda, please pack your bags and come to C 2006 with extreme make-over. For your singing talents alone has no place out here.

Originally posted by: salilu

While describing his contestants, ID said this about Twinke -- jo dikhati hai who bikati hai. Nothing is more true than that. It is shame that this contest has stooped to this level.

So here are the C2005 winners ------

Boys -- Paresh (by huge margin)
Girls -- Twinkle/Ujjani/Himani ( close fight)

Hema/Debu, Nihira/Swananda, please pack your bags. Your singing talents do not count here.

i also observed the same....ID is promoting twinkle as beautiful.... she was even giving lot of poses for the camera when she was introduced....
so sad is the state of affairs....

where is SRGMP going??????????

Originally posted by: toronto123

I personally feel that Swanada is also from UK but her singing is as good or even better than many in India since she is learning and has come to this stage because of her hard work and not riding on a popularity wave alone. Same can not be said about Paresh, he has come above many singers who are pacca in sur and have done more hard work and gave a better singing performance than Paresh and were eliminated, whereas Paresh has come this far(and may be will win also if the trend continues).
You all are free to agree or disagree with me bit I have put forward whatever I felt and did not want to hurt anyone's feeling, if at all I did, I am sorry as that was unintentional.

i'm not disagreeing with you regarding anything....i just wanted to say swananda is not basically from uk..she got married and went to u.k. right that she is hardworker and she is not doing any media stunts...some one on the show today said that she was dumb. thats a bad thing to say about her.
anyways for paresh the lady luck is favouring him..so jab tak janta hai paresh hai.......

Originally posted by: salilu

Hema/Debu, Nihira/Swananda, please pack your bags and come to C 2006 with extreme make-over. For your singing talents alone has no place out here.

Well said Salil...
The best singers probably wont win now (but I sincerely hope this prediction of mine is proved wrong)...

Originally posted by: Suburban_Turban

For you to say what you believe is fair enough. If you think there may have been others who deserved to be voted back in, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

It is not only my personal opinion, checkout this forum and many others also are of the same opinion. Not every one wants to express that by posting but I am sure many have observed and felt the same way as I did.

Originally posted by: Suburban_Turban

But, then you followed by saying that everyone else worked harder than Paresh. How do you know that?? Are you staying in the same accomodation where the contestants are staying? Ask Aadesh who worked the hardest.. he will tell you what he has seen with his own eyes.

By their singing abilities. Paresh has a very limited range and on more than one occasion he has agreed that he has started learning very recently. Abhijit, Vishwaas, Neeladri and many others who were not even considered are definitely more pucca in sur and they were victim of selecting wrong songs on a given day but any day they are better singer than Paresh. Their few songs reflect their depth. I have heard all the songs by Paresh and he is not of the same quality. One does not have to stay with someone in the same accommodation to know about them. I just go by the singing what I hear. Did you ever live with Md. Rafi or Lataji to understand that they are good singer after lots of hafrdwork? And I have no way to interact with Aadesh, may be you have and that is how you are telling this.

Originally posted by: Suburban_Turban

As for voting. People will vote how they want to vote. You may not like it. They may not pick the person you like. You might not pick the person they like. Neither is wrong, it is a matter of individual perspective. Some people do not like their local politicians even though they were democratically voted in. People will vote for the qualities that they seek.
In this case they will vote for the person who they feel will make the best artist. They are the ones who will be listening to the winners music, let them decide. It is ridiculous for anybody on this forum to believe that their view is correct and the other 1.1 million people are wrong!

I agree with you on this last point. Mass does not have intelligance otherwise our Indian politics would not have offered us Laloos. In Bihar people vote for Laloo just because they like his jokes and they way he addresses people and they are in millions and I need not say that they are wrong in choosing him. I hope you get the point across.

Originally posted by: toronto123

It is not only my personal opinion, checkout this forum and many others also are of the same opinion. Not every one wants to express that by posting but I am sure many have observed and felt the same way as I did.

You are correct but you failed to mention that there are also many, possibly more, on this forum who are glad to have Paresh back. Had anyone else been voted back instead of Paresh, you would have witnessed a reaction of equal magnitude, possibly more, opposed to that decison!!

My point being, life will not always go in your favour.. get over it.. and move on.

Originally posted by: toronto123

By their singing abilities. Paresh has a very limited range and on more than one occasion he has agreed that he has started learning very recently. Abhijit, Vishwaas, Neeladri and many others who were not even considered are definitely more pucca in sur and they were victim of selecting wrong songs on a given day but any day they are better singer than Paresh. Their few songs reflect their depth. I have heard all the songs by Paresh and he is not of the same quality. One does not have to stay with someone in the same accommodation to know about them. I just go by the singing what I hear. Did you ever live with Md. Rafi or Lataji to understand that they are good singer after lots of hafrdwork? And I have no way to interact with Aadesh, may be you have and that is how you are telling this.

One does not have to stay with someone in the same accomodation, to know how good a singer they are. But you'd most certainly need some solid evidence before publicly declaring that one person works harder than another. I might have some judgements about you, based on the the kind of things that you post on this forum, but hop around from thread to thread declaring them as fact would be wrong. Why? because i do not know you.

Mohd Rafi was a wonderful singer indeed! i would challenge anyone on this discussion board to try to dispute that fact. However there is no way for me to know whether he is good because of pure natural talent and little bit of hard work, or whether he is so good because of a little bit of talent and years of hard graft, without having hard facts at hand. I'm not going to make blind assumptions either.

Listening to and watching the contestants, you can often tell when they are not comfortable with that particular song choice. The sur could be accurate to the nearest 1Hz, but the rendition will often lack feeling. There will be other days when it is quite clear that they are comfortable with the song. Sur control will be exhibited to perfection, and the emotions put in to the song will paint you an entire picture. Each and everyone of those singers has had their days of each.

I too have heard all of the songs sung by Vishwaas, Aish, Abhi and Paresh. They all have songs where they looked absolutely undefeatable. Sometimes your own bias will cloud your judgement, it's human nature.

My point being.. The best man/woman will win!!

Originally posted by: Suburban_Turban

Listening to and watching the contestants, you can often tell when they are not comfortable with that particular song choice. The sur could be accurate to the nearest 1Hz, but the rendition will often lack feeling. There will be other days when it is quite clear that they are comfortable with the song. Sur control will be exhibited to perfection, and the emotions put in to the song will paint you an entire picture. Each and everyone of those singers has had their days of each.

I too have heard all of the songs sung by Vishwaas, Aish, Abhi and Paresh. They all have songs where they looked absolutely undefeatable. Sometimes your own bias will cloud your judgement, it's human nature.

My point being.. The best man/woman will win!!

👏👏👏Well said. Hey you seem to me a man of lots of wisdom. I also agree with you that let the best man/woman win....

Originally posted by: toronto123

👏👏👏Well said. Hey you seem to me a man of lots of wisdom. I also agree with you that let the best man/woman win....

VERY RIGHT.LET THE BEST MAN/WOMAN WIN.