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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

thanks for sharing dear :)
honestly i am quite impressed with his views> personally till now for me kabirs past meant his failures, his feeling of incompetency, the loss of his familys support and his own inability to protect tarini and anurag, his guilt of failing the people he loved and his insecurities of not being able to make long lived love relationships. but honestly i never thought he still could be attached to shreya and i dont think theres anything unnatural abt it> i mean the way he loves ananya i am sure he would have been a great hubby to shreya as well. he is a keeper so i am sure he would have been shattered to have his marriage broken so bad that too when he genuinely wished for a long lasting relationship with his wife. so now that its evident that he is still somewhere holding onto his broken relationship with shreya i am sure its gonna be more beautiful to see ananya pull him out of that dark pit. i srsly wonder how much pain this man has suffered in his life till ananya came to his rescue...i rly hope he soon realizes that how holding any grudge or hatred for shreya only keeps him bound to her and hat one sided feeling he had for her and thus realize that true love is not abt just feelings its about relationships< its about two people mutually and equally committed to each other> you can have a one sided emotion or love but being complete is about union and until a union is there< it cannot be your true soulmate love!

@Red - Very nicely written Malika...epxressed beautifully...once Ananya helps him out of his past fully the couple is going to be a blisfully happy one...already we have seen the change in Kabir by just burning the hanky - he has become more loving towards Ananya - realises how much he needs her love and he is controlling his temper...so when he is comptetely out of it - imagine what he will be... I hope this is shown much before the serial ends...I dont want the complete shedding off the past in the last few episodes...if it is done earlier we can have some lovely Kaya moments...with no tension and no baggage
Edited by kaks0211 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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If the man once loved his ex very much and for some reason hate her and till now he can't get over his past..is it possible for him to fall for another girl so hard ??!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you, for making these points here. I checked in on the facebook page last night and I might not have been in sync with the writers word to word, but I am glad I understood a few things back when the episode aired. 😳
First of all, yes about Ananya. So I had said it last night as well, the girl indulges in actions which make her realise later on how good or bad they were, she has always learnt through her own experiences and not by being told by someone, and the same applies to Kabir warning her as well. She is quick on her feet and more or less knows the ropes when it comes to her job, but this is her first relationship ever and that too with someone like Kabir, who's magnitude of relative issues pertaining to emotional or othewise is far from that of say,someone like Ronnie. So being with such a person, romantically and emotionally, Ananya needs to time to evolve and understand things from his point of view to match upto his level of emotional fulfillment.
And about inviting Shreya with them, there is an innate goodness in her and that's what made her do so, only to realise sometime later what she brought upon herself. Its again a case of learning when it happened to her. And that bit hurt her as well!

I will just say, as and just when we try and see Kabir's psyche, try to understand why he did what he did, I just think its only just we do the same with Ananya and not jump the gun on her every time she does something. And like Sammeer sir said, she will only learn with her fall, albeit temporary. Its only natural for her to do so. The jhatka Shreya will give her will make her see things she had been not paying attention to, or when they will be out in the open for her. And that's the learning curve for her, and turn her into the person we expect her to.

About Kabir too, yes of course! I don't think what he did was out of character either, I mean not so much. yes we are used to seeing a Kabir who cares and never can hurt Ananya knowingly and his reaction was impulsive as well. We are so used to Kabir being careful and manipulative that for once we did try and decode what he did accordingly, but the truth is at times even he lets himself just, be. And maybe it was one of those moments. And he only realisd what he did when Ananya spoke up about how they know each other's tastes even now.
So, the usually guarded Kabir Sharma wasn't so once, So what! It doesn't changes the love he has for Ananya, neither is it glaring departure from his character. He had been loosening up in the past couple days, especially after the kerchief episode, he believes they are in a happy space, so he was being sarcastic with Shreya but with Ananya's pleading eyes, he just was trying to fit in and be okay with Shreya being there with them.
And yes, about him holding on to his past, when he hates her that bad, there must have been something really messy there, we all realise. It will be all the more heart touching when we see Ananya bringing him out of his pit of darkness and helping him let go of his pent up anger, hatred and negativity about Shreya. He has already started doing it.

Regarding the characters face-off, of course those will be there! How can they story progress if there's nothing of the sort! It will only help bring out the truth in front of everyone.


Edited by -RegalVintage- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Can anyone let me if Sammeer sir shared his view point on the following question (if asked)

why is Kabir not talking to Anita and pacifying her even after realizing that she is so worried and even the fact the Ananya's assurance did not work on her? I thought he would talk to her when he drops her home after the dinner but he does not seems to be in a mood to do that.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: meenu0527

If the man once loved his ex very much and for some reason hate her and till now he can't get over his past..is it possible for him to fall for another girl so hard ??!!

Not getting over his past does not mean that Kabir still harbors some love for Shreya ! Rather the intensity of his hatred and disgust for Shreya proves that he had made huge emotional investments on her at some point of time in his past ! And the fact that his emotions did not get reciprocated and were probably mocked, has made him so averse to Shreya. As far as falling for Ananya is concerned, I feel, it is actually the deep wounds left by Shreya which has led Kabir to fall harder for Ananya ! Had Shreya not bruised his true soul, he wouldnt have tried to search the glimpses of it in Ananya, had he not remembered Shreya's taunts on his failures and her mistrust on him, he would never have been able to accept the Ananya who stood by him when the world went against him, had he not hated Shreya with such vengeance, he would never have realised the soothing effect of Ananya's love ! The very FACT that Kabir has not forgotten Shreya, will rather help him to notice the striking differences between the two and make him fall harder for Ananya each time. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RegalVintage-

<font size="2">Thank you, for making these points here. I checked in on the facebook page last night and I might not have been in sync with the writers word to word, but I am glad I understood a few things back when the episode aired.😳</font>

<font size="2">First of all, yes about Ananya. So I had said it last night as well, the girl indulges in actions which make her realise later on how good or bad they were, she has always learnt through her own experiences and not by being told by someone, and the same applies to Kabir warning her as well. She is quick on her feet and more or less knows the ropes when it comes to her job, but this is her first relationship ever and that too with someone like Kabir, who's magnitude of relative issues pertaining to emotional or othewise is far from that of say,someone like Ronnie. So being with such a person, romantically and emotionally, Ananya needs to time to evolve and understand things from his point of view to match upto his level of emotionalfulfillment.</font>
<font size="2">And about inviting Shreya with them, there is an innate goodness in her and that's what made her do so, only to realise sometime later what she brought upon herself. Its again a case of learning when it happened to her. And that bit hurt her as well!</font>

<font size="2">I will just say, as and just when we try and see Kabir's psyche, try to understand why he did what he did, I just think its only just we do the same with Ananya and not jump the gun on her every time she does something. And like Sammeer sir said, she will only learn with her fall, albeittemporary. Its only natural for her to do so. The jhatka Shreya will give her will make her see things she had been not paying attention to, or when they will be out in the open for her. And that's the learning curve for her, and turn her into the person we expect her to.</font>

<font size="2">About Kabir too, yes of course! I don't think what he did was out of character either, I mean not so much. yes we are used to seeing a Kabir who cares and never can hurt Ananya knowingly and his reaction was impulsive as well. We are so used to Kabir being careful and manipulative that for once we did try and decode what he did accordingly, but the truth is at times even he lets himself just, be. And maybe it was one of those moments. And he only realisd what he did when Ananya spoke up about how they know each other's tastes even now.</font>
<font size="2">So, the usually guarded Kabir Sharma wasn't so once, So what! It doesn't changes the love he has for Ananya, neither is it glaring departure from his character. He had been loosening up in the past couple days, especially after the kerchief episode, he believes they are in a happy space, so he was being sarcastic with Shreya but with Ananya's pleading eyes, he just was trying to fit in and be okay with Shreya being there with them.</font>
<font size="2">And yes, about him holding on to his past, when he hates her that bad, there must have been something really messy there, we all realise. It will be all the more heart touching when we see Ananya bringing him out of his pit of darkness and helping him let go of his pent up anger, hatred and negativity about Shreya. He has already started doing it.</font>

<font size="2">Regarding the characters face-off, of course those will be there! How can they story progress if there's nothing of the sort! It will only help bring out the truth in front of everyone.</font>



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: meenu0527

If the man onc
e loved his ex very much and for some reason hate her and till now he can't get over his past..is it possible for him to fall for another girl so hard ??!!



Nice question dear but i feel he is not attached to her like v r thinking. For if he was he would hv wished to destroy her and make her feel how he felt. If u hv seen kahin to hoga or lrl, thats exactly what kashish or naina did to sujal and rajveer, when they realized that he tried to betray them/hurt them they tried to give it back equally. Thats a peculiar trait of love, if someone u love hurts u u make sure to retaliate to let them know how it feels and thus acheive them back. But kabir never did that. Something that shows he never wanted her back for if he did, his junoon is big enuf to let a dozen Shreyas fall short in front of it. But he nevr rly wished her back.

He hated shreya (his attachment) but never tried to get her back with venegeance or make her feel the pain.But yes he does hold grudges. And those grudges though for Shreya are more abt his own attachment to her or guilt of loving her. That attachment to her is because he was fully into the relationship and she was no where there. That made it pain so hard. His attachment is more about her indifference to his feelings and anger on his own self for leting her do this. That attachment is bcoz no one ever ustood that in that relationship he was the victim, probably u dont get this benefit of doubt being a man. And hence he could never move on...could never forgive himself and let go. Its just like an addiction.When a person quits on an addiction like alcohol or smoking he many a times relapses. Why? Is it bcoz of his love for cigerrattes or is it that he wants them back? I dont think so. Its bcoz that addiction has becum a part of their emotions and the way their life functions. So relapse happens. Its the same eith Kabir. Probably holding this big grudge against Shreya has helped him keep the fire within him ignited...to hate her makes him realize how he always need to be strong n shrewed to remain sucessful. So if a woman still holds so mch control over his emotions he is surely bound but what he needs to realize is whats holding him is not Shreyas evil deeds and his hatred but his own inability to let go of them. His inability to embrace the real kabir (the one ananya brings out) by forgiving himself and by accepting that some feelings n relationships are just ot meant to be. His true liberation will be when he will realize that if Shreya left him n though it did bring so mch pain to him, it was al worth it in case Ananya was meant to be. The day he is able to accept that his love for Ananya outweighs not just his attachment to Shreya but qlso all his pain, his hatred, his suffering - all these wont be any significant. Then his pain wont be his weakness/reason of self-pity but his true strength. And then all ties will be broken.
Edited by Malika - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -RegalVintage-

Thank you, for making these points here. I checked in on the facebook page last night and I might not have been in sync with the writers word to word, but I am glad I understood a few things back when the episode aired. 😳

First of all, yes about Ananya. So I had said it last night as well, the girl indulges in actions which make her realise later on how good or bad they were, she has always learnt through her own experiences and not by being told by someone, and the same applies to Kabir warning her as well. She is quick on her feet and more or less knows the ropes when it comes to her job, but this is her first relationship ever and that too with someone like Kabir, who's magnitude of relative issues pertaining to emotional or othewise is far from that of say,someone like Ronnie. So being with such a person, romantically and emotionally, Ananya needs to time to evolve and understand things from his point of view to match upto his level of emotional fulfillment.
And about inviting Shreya with them, there is an innate goodness in her and that's what made her do so, only to realise sometime later what she brought upon herself. Its again a case of learning when it happened to her. And that bit hurt her as well!

I will just say, as and just when we try and see Kabir's psyche, try to understand why he did what he did, I just think its only just we do the same with Ananya and not jump the gun on her every time she does something. And like Sammeer sir said, she will only learn with her fall, albeit temporary. Its only natural for her to do so. The jhatka Shreya will give her will make her see things she had been not paying attention to, or when they will be out in the open for her. And that's the learning curve for her, and turn her into the person we expect her to.

About Kabir too, yes of course! I don't think what he did was out of character either, I mean not so much. yes we are used to seeing a Kabir who cares and never can hurt Ananya knowingly and his reaction was impulsive as well. We are so used to Kabir being careful and manipulative that for once we did try and decode what he did accordingly, but the truth is at times even he lets himself just, be. And maybe it was one of those moments. And he only realisd what he did when Ananya spoke up about how they know each other's tastes even now.
So, the usually guarded Kabir Sharma wasn't so once, So what! It doesn't changes the love he has for Ananya, neither is it glaring departure from his character. He had been loosening up in the past couple days, especially after the kerchief episode, he believes they are in a happy space, so he was being sarcastic with Shreya but with Ananya's pleading eyes, he just was trying to fit in and be okay with Shreya being there with them.
And yes, about him holding on to his past, when he hates her that bad, there must have been something really messy there, we all realise. It will be all the more heart touching when we see Ananya bringing him out of his pit of darkness and helping him let go of his pent up anger, hatred and negativity about Shreya. He has already started doing it.

Regarding the characters face-off, of course those will be there! How can they story progress if there's nothing of the sort! It will only help bring out the truth in front of everyone.


^^THIS! this is what i was trying to articulate for the past few days but could not find the words. some here even went as far as to say Ananya does not deserve Kabir when inreality, she loves this man to death but only needs time to adjust to him and his complexities.


both of them made a few mistakes yesterday but it did not make a dent on their relationship, so shreya lost even though she probably think she won this round.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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@pomegranate, Thank you :-) this is something I have always said since day 1 whenever people have doubted Ananya's love or her compatibility with Kabir. 😳 As shippers, there is a conception in people that KaYa should be always in sync with each other since the word Go, since they proposed. But it can't be like that! That would be out of character, drastically at that.
They will be learning about each other, they still are. Ananya learned a chunk of Kabir's real psyche when they talked about the kerchief, that's a foray she made into the real person Kabir Sharma.
With Kabir, he understands Ananya a little better than she does, and that's because he is a better judge of people. But at times he is too careful, and that's the way he functions. He understood a big part of hers ages ago when they talked about her father back during the Baaghi track, what drives Ananya in her life, in her work. Its just how two different people will continue to unravel each other in their journey together.

As for loving him, she loves Kabir till the ends of everything ! ❤️

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I must say the writer is very intelligent, he knows his work really well👏 plus he deals with our reactions too...!

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