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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anurs

U can't blame the actor. Ashish is not at all responsible. He had already mentioned that Rangrasiya as milestone of his career and is very close to his heart so i don't think he did any injustice. As per taking part in jhalak it was his not alone decision , it was a decision of RR producer too. So i don't think he can be blame. He used to shoot 12 hr per day for RR and after that only he used to start rehersal for jhalak..As per my view he gave100% to RR..Rudra will always remain in my heart forever...




but none of you are responding to my...if he put in 12 hrs a day why were there so many body doubles on the same; why where scenes shot from behind. Even the kheer eating scene in the last week, where myrah and rohit discuss where they will live after marriage the guy sitting there was not rudra but a bd.

Myrah and rudra scenes too were getting shot separately most time. fail to understand if he was there12 hours and she was there u take in factors of other peoples incompetence, power cuts and so many other things still for ashish 6 hrs is enuf to can 1 hour ka scene and he was hardly there for 10 minutes a day in one episode even less actually.

separate shots were taken of him and patched up, why? killing all joy..Even on the day paro slapped shantanu his back (BDin the same dress) he was not there like of most scenes it was patch work only. to do patch work u think he spent 12 hrs a day at RR sets, common gimee a break. if with other actors he needs time to finish his takes on his own he will finish scenes in a jiffy thats his quality - and the episodes from july have been mostly only patch work scenes - can give innumerable examples, hence i find it difficult to digest the fact that Jhalak did not affect Rangrasiya.

Ashish is a brilliant actor he is there in a episode for hardly 10 minutes, given all the technicalities and issues do u really think a guy of his calibre will need 12 hours to shoot less than 10 minute scenes...

the show lost its intensity and great moments that is what i am saying, of course the show did not go off air because of him it went off air because of the abhinav saurabh split...i had mentioned long back that after sept this show willnot b on air MB was going, there must hv been commercial factors.

also i certainly did not like this constant poor ashu business from the fandom and him (less him) that he was doing two shows and always making excuses - like i wrote nobody held a gun to him and he went in with open eyes...THEN WHY CONSTANTLY KEEP SEEKING PITY OR WHATEVER...BE A PROFESSIONAL YAAR ...we all watched what happend in RR how difficult it was to shoot 7 to 10 minutes ka scenes with body doubles and patch work...that made him tired is it?

Hope u are able to c what my point is...jhalak affected Rangrasiyas quality and i found this exercise of ashish's health issues and two shows this and that being highlighted every day ridiculous, petty.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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What are you trying to say ...
No point bring all the old stories,the show has ended & ashish won n took his trophy home.
No point of all this for us RR fans now,because we already discussed about all this long ago.TQ
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Posted: 11 years ago
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[QUOTE=blue_rose1605]What are you trying to say ...
No point bring all the old stories,the show has ended & ashish won n took his trophy home.
No point of all this for us RR fans now,because we already discussed about all this long ago.TQ
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yeah agree no point now in detailed discussions on this...maybe as i was not a part of such discussions earlier (Newbie) i just wanted to express my bitterness and why i am not able to enjoy his jhalak success as RR was affected by JDJ ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nik1310




i agree it was the split abhinav and saurabh that cost the show, always felt that

but none of you are responding to my...if he put in 12 hrs a day why were there so many body doubles on the same; why where scenes shot from behind. Even the kheer eating scene in the last week, where myrah and rohit discuss where they will live after marriage the guy sitting there was not rudra but a bd.

Myrah and rudra scenes too were getting shot separately...


Ashish is a brilliant actor he is there in a episode for hardly 10 minutes, given all the technicalities and issues do u really think a guy of his calibre will need 12 hours to shoot 10 minute scenes...

the show lost its intensity and great moments that is what i am saying, of course the show did not go off air because of him.

also i did not like this constant poor ashu business from the fandom and him (less him) that he was doing two shows and always making excuses - like i wrote nobody held a gun to him and he went in with open eyes...THEN WHY CONSTANTLY KEEP SEEKING PITY OR WHATEVER...BE A PROFESSIONAL YAAR ...

Hope u are able to c what my point is...





If you notice the body doubles are present mostly in the last week of the show. That is because Ashish finished his shoot on 6th while the others on 10th (I know this because a member, Oyster who sent Ashish and Sanaya gifts, got this info from IF office). This was done inorder to give him time to prepare for the finals. So is fair to blame the downward trend on 1 week of body doubles, when he did his job properly inspite of 3-4 months of Jhalak?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aaliah3108

hi there !!

I am a little confused by your post. On one hand, u have showered praises on AS while in the 2nd line you have called him shrewd in a subtle way. Should I understand that you are too trying to put across some view in an open ended way which can be taken as constructive or destructive?
The debacle of RR is nowhere related to actors as they do not write the screenplay. It should not be put on their shoulders what so ever.

IF it was decided to kill off Paro, then nobody could have changed that irrespective of how much time Ashish was spending on RR and how much on JDJ.

The story of Myrah - Rudra was conceptualised by the Creatives may be under channel pressure of what so ever, we made a large hue and cry about it, went bonkers tweeting for Paro to be brought back but we did not get it. Whatever the fall out was between the channel Colors and PH is unknown to us and that brought out RR debacle.

Secondly, why Karan Tacker had many choreographers changed is definitely not in anybody's hands .. it is as simple as that. Why ask this qs. to only Ashish, everybody else had the same choreographer till the end except Karan so they should be asked too.

Thirdly, it is upto an individual whose performance they like and whose they dont. Just like u felt, Shampa /Ashish were not good .. there are many who felt they were good. This cannot be questioned at all as everyone is entitled to their opinion. So I am not saying you are not right however I am not wrong too.

How a person manages their professional / personal / public life is upto them and once again we cannot comment on it but fans do. If fans have the right to say just anything to a certain actor, I think he / she too have the freedom of expression. Of course, he went with his eyes open and knew it would be difficult to manage both however there is not one instance when he has come forward and asked for sympathy votes. Everybody really does know what they are doing.
Going by this, I would like to add that he was the 1st person to have reacted to Paro's death in the most sensitive way because we fans were mourning. There was no need on his behalf to come up and try to cheer us but he did.

Please do not think I am bashing your post or anything as it is a neutral reply but honestly u have really said everything negative in a positive sounding way which is why I am confused as to what was the intention of making this post.



Bang on you said it all👏🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I so agree with u nik1310. Am with you all the way! The buck does not stop only at the doors of PH, Channel, or the CVs. I dont blame Mr.Sharma for the debacle but then he is not completely blameless either; the reason being that the show was already going downhill with the ridiculous tracks BUT the constant use of BDs & single shots of the male lead(ML) killed whatever little essence & intensity left in the show😭 . When i invest so much of myself in a show, I am not wrong in expecting the cast to be present on the sets at the same time to give their shots, especially the leads. Before people jump to conclusions let me make it very clear that i am neither a fan of the Ms.Irani or Mr.Sharma but am a fan of fabulous RR that was once upon a time! I do feel that the FL & the rest of the cast needs to be applauded for holding up the show since our ML hardly put in a few mins of personal appearance in every episode👏. Is this what one calls a professional behavior😕 ? If he takes up 2 shows at the same time then it is his responsibility to see that he does justice to both. As a viewer his personal life matters not to me. All that matters is the show i love watching & so when the show has episode after episodes with BDs & single shots of the ML I do get angry & feel let down.
A person who rides 2 horses at the same time never has it easy & i'm sure Mr.Sharma knew what he was in for, when he decided to do just that! All his aches & pains & broken bones are out of that very decision of his. And as you rightly said nik1310, no one put a gun to his head to take up JDJ. Everydoby has a right to make decisions to further their careers as they see fit . But then at the end of the day they are the ones to enjoy the fruits of their labor & so this feeling sorry for the poor guy who is burning the candle at both the ends & working so hard does not make much sense to me. Am very happy for the fans who voted for their celeb to make him a winner of JDJ but at the same time am sad for fans like me who only watched RR never dreaming that the ML of the show will get soo busy that we'll only see him in guest appearance😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nik1310




but none of you are responding to my...if he put in 12 hrs a day why were there so many body doubles on the same; why where scenes shot from behind. Even the kheer eating scene in the last week, where myrah and rohit discuss where they will live after marriage the guy sitting there was not rudra but a bd.

Myrah and rudra scenes too were getting shot separately most time. fail to understand if he was there12 hours and she was there u take in factors of other peoples incompetence, power cuts and so many other things still for ashish 6 hrs is enuf to can 1 hour ka scene and he was hardly there for 10 minutes a day in one episode even less actually.

separate shots were taken of him and patched up, why? killing all joy..Even on the day paro slapped shantanu his back (BDin the same dress) he was not there like of most scenes it was patch work only. to do patch work u think he spent 12 hrs a day at RR sets, common gimee a break. if with other actors he needs time to finish his takes on his own he will finish scenes in a jiffy thats his quality - and the episodes from july have been mostly only patch work scenes - can give innumerable examples, hence i find it difficult to digest the fact that Jhalak did not affect Rangrasiya.

Ashish is a brilliant actor he is there in a episode for hardly 10 minutes, given all the technicalities and issues do u really think a guy of his calibre will need 12 hours to shoot less than 10 minute scenes...

the show lost its intensity and great moments that is what i am saying, of course the show did not go off air because of him it went off air because of the abhinav saurabh split...i had mentioned long back that after sept this show willnot b on air MB was going, there must hv been commercial factors.

also i certainly did not like this constant poor ashu business from the fandom and him (less him) that he was doing two shows and always making excuses - like i wrote nobody held a gun to him and he went in with open eyes...THEN WHY CONSTANTLY KEEP SEEKING PITY OR WHATEVER...BE A PROFESSIONAL YAAR ...we all watched what happend in RR how difficult it was to shoot 7 to 10 minutes ka scenes with body doubles and patch work...that made him tired is it?

Hope u are able to c what my point is...jhalak affected Rangrasiyas quality and i found this exercise of ashish's health issues and two shows this and that being highlighted every day ridiculous, petty.

Ashish had health issues even when he just did RR alone. His character has more actions and stunts and with his already broken back(I think u won't blame him for that too) he got injured often so had to miss some days(which lead to BD doubles). Can u please tell me in which intense and passionate scene a BD was used. Even though BD was used its always in other scenes. Mostly almost 98% of the love scenes were genuine. No one cried that Ashish performance was not upto mark in Jhalak. He always gave 100%.We only complained about judges scores while some with same level of performances got more marks than him(not anyone in particular).When u have so much complain about him I don't understand how u regard him high. If fans are worried for his over working and health its their right. Just because he was doing two shows are u saying that no fans should mention it as it as his own choice. Actually most of them started liking him because he did not complain and did not compromise with both the shows. Other then online viewers most people who watch at home doesn't even know what a BD is.When I showed it once to my mother she was like is it so,was it not him who was in the scene. Hope this answers u.If you like someone else's performance other than Ashish u have the right to praise him. And we r entitled to say that he was the best and he deserved it.
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