Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan II - Page 81

Great question Vrish! Thanks Vibs!

Originally posted by: _Vrish_

Vibs

Thanks for the response.

Also, when Vishwamitra was doing his tapasya to become Brahmarshi, and after Maneka had left, Indra sent one Rambha to distract him, and if I recall right, Vishwamitra cursed her, playing right into Indra's hands. Was this Rambha the same as Nalkubera's Rambha?

No idea but it could be. If it is the same Apsara, then she continued being an Apsara for Indra. I'll look into it when I get the chance. Thanks for pointing out where I can find her.

Originally posted by: Vibhishna

One of the books I read mentions that Nalkuber through his power could see that Ramba had spoken the truth when she came to him crying and told him what happened. Thus, he cursed Ravan. I have no idea what happened to both of them after that. Some books/articles hint that Nalkuber might have accepted Rambha but I don't know for sure. I don't think Rambha killed herself. Some stories in Mahabharat mentions her name - again I am not sure.

There are stories in the Vishnu Purana too which mention her name (after Lord Rama's avatar). so, the chances of her immolating herself are most definitely ruled out. don't know what happened to her though...

I'm thrilled that the forum has re-opened while the serial is being re-aired. Get to post relevant stuff in this forum once again. 🥳

Originally posted by: lola610

I'm here I'm here!!! How about a very first doubt for this thread - one of the tracks that was trimmed out of the show so far was from Sita's childhood in Mithila, when an arrogant king named Sudhanva comes to worship the Shiv Dhanush, fails to lift it, and leaves in a huff. This sets the scene for Sita lifting the bow in her childhood and proving that she is no ordinary child early on. Sooo... question is: any source for this Sudhanwa story, and any other stories you guys can share on Sita's childhood from any source at all? I remember BRC's Ramayan giving all kinds of details on how highly educated she was and that each sister from Team SUMS had a subject of expertise, Sita's being astronomy... they made it kind of empowering in terms of girls getting educated for as long as they want in whatever field they want. Looked a tad anachronistic but still cool. So... yeah... Sita's childhood anyone?

I have a different question:

I think that's because Sage Valmiki was focusing on the events of Lord Ram's life alone.

Balkand focused on Ram's birth, the events which led to it (perhaps not the entire set). The four princes were still in their late teens and this kand ends with them leading a peaceful life in the Palace of Ayodhya.

Ayodhyakand starts much later I think, after 10 or 14 years after the wedding. I think the sudden gap of so many years in the story would have divided this kand if it had started at some other point.

I don't think there would be any doubts on Kishkindhakand. It probably ends where it does because all the important events in Kishkindha has been explained.

I've read before that Sundarkand focused solely on Hanuman and his resolve on reaching his goal. It is believed by many that reading the Sundarkand enables a person to focus on his goal and many a time this kand has been recited separately.

I feel Vibhishan being expelled, Angad's visit to Ravan et al are a part of Yudhkand. All of these events are indispensable as far as the war was concerned. I think explaining why some changed sides and the last offer of peace being rejected must be included before the start of the war.

I'm OK with the Yudhkand ending with Ram's coronation as an extension of Ram's victory. I'd consider reaching Ayodhya safe and in time to save Bharath to be the end of all the troubles Ram faced.

Uttarkand explains what happens after the coronation. I too wondered why the stories about Ravan and others were put in here. I thought it was so because Sage Valmiki wanted to include them only when Ram himself was aware of the whole picture and the magnitude of his achievement and about his friends. These stories would not have been out of place in the Yudhkand or split up and Kishkndhakand and Yudhkand wherever applicable.

What I was irritated about was that there was almost nil information on Shathrugan, Shrutkirti, Mandvi, to some extent Bharat and Urmila. I'd have liked more information on them and more incidents in their life after their wedding and how they bought up their sons et al.

Vibs