Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan II - Page 45

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Thanks, Ananya. Lalitha's da man!!!!😆

Yep, that's what I hate about this soap-opera twist to this tale of Rama being pressurized to marry, and Sita being distraught in the process. 😡Both this serial as well as the previous one (sorry, Lalitha). As it is, Sita had enough sadness going on in her life, not knowing whether she'd ever get Rama back again: what's the point in showing yet another painful twist in her life?😭

I'm just trying to calculate - do they have enough episodes left for all the battles K-L will be fighting, as well as the singing and all that? Ooops, what was I thinking - Bharat & Mandavi are already gone, so one less obstacle for K-L. They'll probably just fight Shatrughan, Lakshman, Hanuman and Rama.

Note that they've not learnt the Ramayan yet - which is the most significant role of theirs in the story (aside from the historical aspect that they continued Rama's dynasty), but they know how to identify medicinal herbs, they know their divyastras, they know how to use poison ivy and handle snakes. Quite some characters, our divya balaks

Originally posted by: Khalrika

Chandra, u forgot eating oranges to stall Gretlasuri. 😆

Khalrika

How come Luv ate those oranges and Gretelasuri was the one who had to run to the bathroom?🤣

P.S. Didn't notice Sunanda - Mrs Vidhi? You know, the sweetheart who welcomed Kush to their home as a guest by making him her servant?

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Ananya

Thanks for this detail. So the decision to use a golden statue was simply Rama's alone, due to Sita's absence, and there was no other factors, like the rishis/people wanting him to marry, involved?

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Khalrika

How come Luv ate those oranges and Gretelasuri was the one who had to run to the bathroom?🤣

Khalrika

Just 23 to go - go ahead - I know you can do it. Hit Goldie before this serial ends!

This is really lonely w/o Vibs, Chen2, Mallika, et al.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

@ Khalrika di: I am not making a woman or a wife's role obsolete , why would I?

those above are not my personal opinion but what I've seen.

My father too has been doing shraadhas of my grandpa but I haven't seen my mother sitting next to him 😕

If you read in Valmiki Ramayan only Ramji performs Dasharath's shraadh along with B-L-S not along with Sita.

Khalrika

That site didn't look very convincing. The gross-out part actually didn't look so bad, compared to what I once saw in a 5th rate Bengali movie 'Antar-mahal', where it was said that instead of mimicing the ...., the chief wife actually had to do it.🤢

However, the site in question got the Ramayan part totally wrong:

The ritual is performed again towards the end of the poem, but in very different circumstances. It figures centrally in the uttara kanda (book 7) where it leads to the final major story in the poem. In this narrative, Rama was married to a single wife, Sita, who at the time was not with him, having been excluded from Rama's capital of Ayodhya. She was therefore represented by a statue for the queen's ceremony (7.x). Sita was living in Valmiki's forest ashram with her twin children by Rama, Lava and Kusha, whose birth was unknown to Rama. In its wanderings, the horse, accompanied by an army and Hanuman, Rama's monkey-devotee enters the forest and encounters Lava, who ignores the warning written on the horse's headplate not to hinder its progress. He tethers the horse, and with Kusha challenges the army, which is unable to defeat the brothers. Recognising Rama's sons, Hanuman sends them to Ayodhya where they are reconciled with their father, who also accepts Sita back at court. Sita, however, no longer wishes to live, and is absorbed by the earth. It is never stated whether the sacrifice was completed, but after Sita's death Rama is said to have repeatedly performed the Ashvamedha using the golden statue as a substitute for his wife.

Obviously, the above a/c is not taken from Valmiki, or else, they'd have known that this yagna was actually completed (Sarg 99). Also left out is the fact that Rama required Sita to take the vow in order to disabuse his subjects of their misconceptions about her 'guilt' - and to avoid the perception of exchanging humiliation for a royal status, Sita took the vow that she did.

I'd probably want to look at more credible sources.

P.S. 20 to go!!!!

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Khalrika

That site didn't look very convincing. The gross-out part actually didn't look so bad, compared to what I once saw in a 5th rate Bengali movie 'Antar-mahal', where it was said that instead of mimicing the ...., the chief wife actually had to do it.🤢

However, the site in question got the Ramayan part totally wrong:

The ritual is performed again towards the end of the poem, but in very different circumstances. It figures centrally in the uttara kanda (book 7) where it leads to the final major story in the poem. In this narrative, Rama was married to a single wife, Sita, who at the time was not with him, having been excluded from Rama's capital of Ayodhya. She was therefore represented by a statue for the queen's ceremony (7.x). Sita was living in Valmiki's forest ashram with her twin children by Rama, Lava and Kusha, whose birth was unknown to Rama. In its wanderings, the horse, accompanied by an army and Hanuman, Rama's monkey-devotee enters the forest and encounters Lava, who ignores the warning written on the horse's headplate not to hinder its progress. He tethers the horse, and with Kusha challenges the army, which is unable to defeat the brothers. Recognising Rama's sons, Hanuman sends them to Ayodhya where they are reconciled with their father, who also accepts Sita back at court. Sita, however, no longer wishes to live, and is absorbed by the earth. It is never stated whether the sacrifice was completed, but after Sita's death Rama is said to have repeatedly performed the Ashvamedha using the golden statue as a substitute for his wife.

Obviously, the above a/c is not taken from Valmiki, or else, they'd have known that this yagna was actually completed (Sarg 99). Also left out is the fact that Rama required Sita to take the vow in order to disabuse his subjects of their misconceptions about her 'guilt' - and to avoid the perception of exchanging humiliation for a royal status, Sita took the vow that she did.

I'd probably want to look at more credible sources.

P.S. 20 to go!!!!