RAMAYAN DAILY DISCUSSION THREAD - Page 101

Originally posted by: varaali

OK, So most of us don't like the way Sagars have shifted the story . Let's see what options they did have-

1) Stick to the original VAlmiki, word to word. That means, we would have got to see

a) A tense Ram duelling with himself, but finally arriving to the conclusion that SIta must be banished.

b) This is faciitated by the fact that Sita had only a few days ago expressed a wish to Visit some rishis ashram and custom demended that pregnant ladies' wishes were usually fulfilled

c) Ram revealing to Lakshman his decision

d) A blithely ignorant Sita happily taking leave of Ram (This would have added to the poignancy)😭

e) In the forestLakshman breaking the news to Sita

f) A few close up shots of a shell shocked Sita

g) Thunder and lightning😉

2) Add modifications so that the banishment looks like a combined decision

a) Ram expressing to Sita that he really has no other option (Insted of making Lakshman break the newsto Sita, that too when she did not have any inkling whatso ever)

b) Showing Sita tobe a courageous woman ( and an understanding wife)by her acceptance of his decision

c) Both take leave of one another fully understanding that Circumstances and their previleged position were forcing them to take this decision. (Ram is anguished but does NOT break down or feels helpless) Rather he is appreciative of the fact that his Sita, as always has supported him

d) Both Jointly appraise other family members of their decision

3) The version which has been Telecast

a) Sita voluntarily going into exile Sita rekha ,etc- all the balder dash

Somehow I prefer the option 2 which, though deviating from the original, retains the character of Ram while elevating the charater of Sita

What do you all say?

varaali

I'd have preferred a modified form of option 1, but not option 2 the way you describe it. In it, Rama would have asked Lakshman to take her to Valmiki's ashram and leave her right there, instead of near the ashram, as in the original. If I were to take a poetic license to change things, I'd have them both meet Valmiki for the official reason, and then have Lakshman break that news to both Sita & Valmiki. Sita would cry and say what she did in the original, Valmiki would console her and assure Lakshman that she'll be well taken care of and insulated from any humiliation, and Lakshman would return while Sita would now change into vanvasi clothes. Oh, and Rama would have discussed these things w/ his bros, as in the original, while the wives & mothers would have gotten to know about it after the event.

Either that, or option 1 unadulterated.

Kalrika

In the episode 2 days ago, when Lakshman furiously asked the guards what they were doing when Rama disappeared, they should have told him what you said - that they're off for a new serial.😆 Only problem - Lakshman would have wiped them out on the spot.☢️☢️☢️

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

varaali

I'd have preferred a modified form of option 1, but not option 2 the way you describe it. In it, Rama would have asked Lakshman to take her to Valmiki's ashram and leave her right there, instead of near the ashram, as in the original. If I were to take a poetic license to change things, I'd have them both meet Valmiki for the official reason, and then have Lakshman break that news to both Sita & Valmiki. Sita would cry and say what she did in the original, Valmiki would console her and assure Lakshman that she'll be well taken care of and insulated from any humiliation, and Lakshman would return while Sita would now change into vanvasi clothes. Oh, and Rama would have discussed these things w/ his bros, as in the original, while the wives & mothers would have gotten to know about it after the event.

Either that, or option 1 unadulterated.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

Bhaiya, the modified version of option 1 as you've stated would kill the suspense, i think. I would like Rama mentioning to Lakshman to drop Sitanear Valmiki ashram and then a dejected Lakshman returning back so that Lakshman n both Ram are not sure that Sita is sheltered by Valmiki. I too am in full favor of option 1 and had hoped that Sagars would follow Valmiki's version religiously. In my opinion the public at large doesn't know what is stated in the uttarkand of Valmiki

Kill the suspense for whom? 😕Certainly not Rama & Lakshman!!! When Lakshman goes back, there's no need to tell all of Ayodhya where he has left Sita - just Rama, Kaushalya, Urmila and family needs to know it. For public consumption, simply leave a terse statement that Sita has been exiled in order to satisfy public sentiment. (Besides, since this isn't exactly Perry Mason, why bother about the suspense?)

I too think that the public at large doesn't know the Uttarkand (note that there is a large part of the public that rejects Uttarkand altogether), and if they were to see a majority of the stories that simply depict Rama as banishing Sita 'to the forest', a whole % are going to end up hating him: they won't even allow for the fact that treta yuga values were different from todays. However, if in a show, the above plot was shown, with all the reasoning being explicitly spelt out (maybe in the form of conversations between Rama, Lakshman, Kaushalya, Urmila, et al), they might be more appreciative. Since what's being conjectured here is that the Sagars have altered the story to protect Rama's image as someone compassionate - the karunanidhan image, in addition to everything else, a storyline like the above would have been compatible with the original, but preserved that compassionate image at least partly.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Kill the suspense for whom? 😕Certainly not Rama & Lakshman!!! When Lakshman goes back, there's no need to tell all of Ayodhya where he has left Sita - just Rama, Kaushalya, Urmila and family needs to know it. For public consumption, simply leave a terse statement that Sita has been exiled in order to satisfy public sentiment. (Besides, since this isn't exactly Perry Mason, why bother about the suspense?)

I too think that the public at large doesn't know the Uttarkand (note that there is a large part of the public that rejects Uttarkand altogether), and if they were to see a majority of the stories that simply depict Rama as banishing Sita 'to the forest', a whole % are going to end up hating him: they won't even allow for the fact that treta yuga values were different from todays. However, if in a show, the above plot was shown, with all the reasoning being explicitly spelt out (maybe in the form of conversations between Rama, Lakshman, Kaushalya, Urmila, et al), they might be more appreciative. Since what's being conjectured here is that the Sagars have altered the story to protect Rama's image as someone compassionate - the karunanidhan image, in addition to everything else, a storyline like the above would have been compatible with the original, but preserved that compassionate image at least partly.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

the suspense from the audience, i meant. I think thats what Sagars are trying to show by making Sita leave in jungle , even Ram-Lakshman do not know where Sita went n got sheltered.

I think even in Valmiki's uttarkand Lakshman might have not known what Sita exactly did after she had heard that she'd been abandoned. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The audience already knows where Sita is, since they've seen her go to Valmiki's. It's just that they don't know that Rama knows where she is. But why the need of that mystery?😕😕😕

Yeah, Lakshman didn't know where Sita went, although he did leave her near Valmiki's ashram. But the fact that he knew he left her there suggests that he'd have either known or assumed that that was the place she was most likely to find a home. Also, the fact that Shatrughan actually met Sita suggests that the family knew where she was all along, but kept it a family secret. Incidentally, did Rama ask Shatrughan to stop at Valmiki's ashram (as shown in the previous Sagar serial), or did Shatrughan just happen to stop there (which would have been too unlikely a co-incidence)? If the former, then that mystery is non-existant.

Originally posted by: ananyacool

And by the way thanks for applauding 1100 posts 😃

Chen2 di, Chandra bhaiya, Khalrika di, Vibs....Sita

I feel these posts are cash!! we go on spending n don't have a clue where we spent n how much😆

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

Vibs

According to the Imagine website, the new repeat timing - & there's only one now, down from the 3 or 4 that they once had - is 5:00AM. Actually, I missed last nights episode, stayed up until 1:30 and saw it not running, checked the web site, and found out that it was @ 5:00AM. So after posting, I started watching the Ind-NZ match, but fell asleep, and missed it. I'm just pissed at them for relegating even this clownish edition to the adult hours, and instead filling the day with trash.😡😡😡

Guess we'll have to watch the Sunday edition to see what happened. Actually, this was an episode I was initially happy to miss, until I read that they showed more of the family here, which made me want to see them, not the Amazon Sita on steroids😕😕😕

P.S. I wonder what Khalrika would do if the real Narayan asked her to choose between him & Kalra; maybe her hubby should fall for Kalra's wife, so that they can double-date 😆

P.P.S. Thanks everyone for congratulating me on 1111, although I was just kidding when I 'bawled' like those babies on Jo Ishq or whatever.😆