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Posted: 16 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: *king*

here r a few more.

these r the characters in ramayan which were reborn in mahabharat

Ram=Krishna
Sita=Rukhmini
Lakshman=Balram
Sumitra=Rohini
Kalnemi=Kans


Kumbhkaran was Sishupal
Ravan was Dantvakra
Shurpanakha was Kubjah

another important link is tht Kaikeyi was born as devki n gave birth 2 krishna. after having separated kausalya n sriram 4 14 yrs she repented n wanted 2 give 2 the lord in her next birth. her wish was granted. but due to her previous mistake she had 2 b separated from krishna. in turn krishna was raised by yashoda who was none other than kausalya.

*king*

But some where I read Vishnuji booned Manu and Shatrupa to be
born as their son
Was this boon valid only for Lord Ram birth...
well I ll confirm again from book but I read it as
All with the boon of Vishnu ji to be born as their son only, Vishnuji took birth as Krishna from devki who was mother Kaushalya.
and coz Kaikeyi always wanted to serve LOrd Ram as her own son
so she reborn as yashoda and served Lord Krishna as mother ....
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Posted: 16 years ago
#42

Kalnemi=Kans

Kumbhkaran was Sishupal
Ravan was Dantvakra
Shurpanakha was Kubjah



what? Shurpanakha was Kubjah? The same Kubjah to whom Sri Krishna met in Mathura who was taking Chandan-paste to Kans? But i remember in Shri Krishna, they said that Kubjah was Lord's devotee from previous births and she waited for Lord to come and give her darshan. Krishna also said that Kubjah had a very pure heart and a very beautiful and kind soul. So its strange to think that once she was also Shurpanakha!

also, wasnt Ravan born as Kans?


Edited by bharat999 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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bharat

While the scriptures are unanomous about the first 2 incarnations of Jaya and Vijaya, there are descrepancies in the 3rd. According to one account, it was Kamsa & Shishupala, while according to the other, it was Shishupala & Dantavakra. So depending on which one one is using, you'll see the translations from the treta-yug to dwapar-yug made accordingly.

Outside this context, I hadn't even heard of Dantavakra. It seems that he was killed by Krishna shortly after the killing of Shalva. Kamsa does seem more probably, since he was the one with the power to do most harm to Krishna than Dantavakra ever was.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#44
Wow thank you for sharing so much knowledge!😊
Another similarity might be the fire (agni). Sitaji gave agnipariksha and draupadi was born from the fire.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Interesting Aradhana, you're right.
Isn't the fire seen as purifier of things in our scriptures? So maybe that's also a reason Sitaji gave agnipariksha. She was so pure that Agni Dev did not have to do anything, and she came out of the fire unscathed. It was the ultimate truth of her chastity. And Draupadi was born from the fire meaning she was also an embodiment of purity.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

Krishna had more than 16,000 wives out of which 8 were chief. They are:-
Rukmini, Jambavati, Satyabhama, Kalindi, Mitravinda, Satya, Bhadra, Lakshmana

Rukmini - Rukmini was in love with Krishna and wanted to marry him. But her elder brother Rukmi was forcibly getting her married to Shishupal. Krishna abduvted her (of course, with her consent). A fierce fight ensued between Rukmi, Shishupal and many other warriors on one hand and Krishna on the other. Krishna defeated all of them, brought Rukmini to his palace and married her.

Jambvati - Satyabhama's father was king Satyajit. He was a devotee of Sun god. Pleased with his devotion, Sun god gave him a jewel called Syamantak. Because of the power of the jewel, Satyajit was always in best of health and his kingdom was very proserous. The jewel was really very beautiful and sparkling.
One day, Krishna borrowed the jewel from Satyajit because he (Krishna) wanted to give the jewel to king Ugrasen. But Satyajit refused. Krishna said nothing.
One day, Satyajit's younger brother Prasenjit wore the jewel and went hunting in a forest. Prasenjit and his horse were killed by a lion. The lion dragged Prasenjit's body to a cave. Jambvan saw the lion. There was a fight between Jambvan and the lion in which the lion was killed. Jambvan gave the jewel to his children as a toy to play with.
Meanwhile, Satyajit was worried when his brother did not come back. He told everybody that Krishna must have killed Prasenjit for the jewel.
Krishna heard of the allegation. He investigated the matter and reached the cave of Jambvan and saw the jewel. A very fierce fight took place between Krishna and Jambvan. The fight continued for 28 days. Finally Krishna won. Jambvan was amazed to find a human who could defeat him. He understood that Krishna was none other than Sri Ram. He was overwhelmed with emotion on seeing his Lord and worshipped him. Krishna explained why he wanted the jewel. Jambvan happily gave the jewel to Krishna and also his daughter Jambvati in marriage to Krishna.

Satyabhama - Krishna took the Syamantak jewel from Jambvan and gave to Satyajit and told him the whole story. Satyajit felt bad that he had made false allegation on Krishna. He apologized to Krishna and got his daughter Satyabhama married to Krishna. He also wanted to give the jewel to Krishna but Krishna said that Satyajit should keep the jewel.

Kalindi - One day, Krishna and Arjun were moving in a forest. There they saw a very beatiful lady at some distance. Arjun went to the lady and inquired about her. The lady introduced herself as Kalindi and said that she prayed everyday to get Krishna as her husband. Arjun went to Krishna and reported the matter to him. Krishna took Kalnidi in his chariot and went to Yudhisthir where he stayed for some days. Then he went to Dwarka and married Kalindi.

Mitravinda - There were two kings Vindya and Anuvindya. They treated Duryodhan as their master. They had a sister named Mitravinda. In her swyamvar, many kings and princes came. Krishna also came. Mitravinda wanted to marry Krishna but her brothers told her not to choose Krishna. Then Krishna took her in his chariot, fought the other kings present there, defeated all of them and took her away. Thus Krishna married Mitravinda.

Satya - There was a king named Naganjit. His daughter was Satya. Naganjit wanted his daughter to marry somebody very brave. He put a condition. There were seven very vicious and sharp-horned bullls. Whoever fought with all the bulls at one time and defeated them was allowed to marry Satya. Lord Krishna heard of this and went to Naganjit's kingdom. Naganjit was happy to see Krishna and he felt that Krishna should marry Satya. But it was not proper to break the condition. Krishna accepted the condition and easily defeated all the seven bulls. Then Satya married Krishna. When Satya and Krishna were going to Dwarka, then on the way, they were stopped by other kings who wanted to marry Satya. Krishna's army fought with those kings. Arjun was also present there. He fought on the side of Krishna. Those kings could not face Arjun's arrows and ran away.

Bhadra - Bhadra was a princess of Kaikeya kingdom. She wanted to marry Krishna. Her brothers requested Krishna to marry her and thus she got married to Krishna.

Lakshmana - In Lakshmana's swyamvar, Krishna defeated other suitors and married Lakshmana.



Satyajit was not a king, he was a business person belonging to the Yadav kul. That was also one of the reasons that Styabhama took pride that she was the only queen of Shri Krishna who hailed from Yaduvansh
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Another link of Hanumaan during Krishna Avtaar was when he was appointed by Shri Krishna to kill Pondrak, the false "Basudev", who was fooling people assuming a false chaturbhuj roop similar to Krishna
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Posted: 16 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: godisone

Interesting Aradhana, you're right.

Isn't the fire seen as purifier of things in our scriptures? So maybe that's also a reason Sitaji gave agnipariksha. She was so pure that Agni Dev did not have to do anything, and she came out of the fire unscathed. It was the ultimate truth of her chastity. And Draupadi was born from the fire meaning she was also an embodiment of purity.

In that case, how about Dhrishtadyumna? 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Omshanti1111

Another link of Hanumaan during Krishna Avtaar was when he was appointed by Shri Krishna to kill Pondrak, the false "Basudev", who was fooling people assuming a false chaturbhuj roop similar to Krishna


Pondrak, or Purandara Vasudev, who was an ally of Shishupala during Rukmini's engagement, was killed by Krishna himself, and following that, his ally, the ruler of Kashi, who sought to avenge him, was also killed.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu


Pondrak, or Purandara Vasudev, who was an ally of Shishupala during Rukmini's engagement, was killed by Krishna himself, and following that, his ally, the ruler of Kashi, who sought to avenge him, was also killed.

You are right that Krishna killed him eventually, but Hanuman did play a role in that.

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