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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07


odd man out😆


the one who does not let us enjoy the show...

for eg..kajol was kabab mai haddi (KMH) when SRK and Rani were romancing in KKHH
illeana was KMH in barfi movie
Edited by nneeiill - 12 years ago
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SITA AND LAKSHMANA CONFRONTATION

wen lakshmana didnt move hearing the call of demon sita became extemely angry...The drama as painted by Valmiki shows Sita extremely agitated and pouring verbal acid over Lakshmana. She says things, which she otherwise would not have dreamt of saying. It was indeed unkindly and unbecoming of her to accuse Lakshmana of motives that could not even be in the innermost recesses of this most loyal, obedient and self-effacing younger brother, who was nothing other than a child, the eldest son, for this couple until then.

"You are as it were an enemy of your brother in the guise of a friend, O Lakshmana (son of Sumitra) in that you do not rush to the help of your brother (even) in this predicament. For my sake, O Lakshmana, you wish Sri Rama to perish. Surely due to greed for me you do not follow Sri Rama (a scion of Raghu)." (Valmiki Ramayana, Aranya Kanda, Canto XLV, Sloka 6, 7) "Having served as my husband Sri Rama of lotus-like eyes and dark-brown as a blue lotus, how can I covet an ordinary man (like you)? I shall undoubtedly give up the ghost in your presence, O son of Sumitra!" (Ibid, Sloka 26)

remember we have already seen the scene where lakshman said to break the bow himself sita use this trick to push him away she said lakshman had a eye on her since he attented the swayamvar...


This was something that Lakshmana did not expect and could not take it any more. "I dare not make a reply (to you), since you are a deity to me," he replies. (Sloka 27-28). "May all be well with you, O lady of charming countenance! Let all the sylvan deities protect you, O large-eyed lady! The fearful evil portents which appear before my eyes indeed make me doubtful whether when come back with Sri Rama I shall be able to see you." (Ibid, Sloka 33-34)

Critics are rather not convinced about the need for the use of such words. But it should be remembered that though Sita directed such unbecoming words towards Lakshmana, she did not really mean what she said. Her purpose was to push Lakshmana away from that place to go in search of Rama, for her fear was so great. She knew very well Lakshmana would not move from that place unless he is shocked or put under pressure of an extreme kind. Her words were meant to drive him in search of Rama and nothing more than that.

We hear her heart in the Sundara Kanda, when she speaks of Lakshmana to Hanuman and tells him, "Inquiries concerning welfare should be addressed on my behalf and in my name to Lakshmana, that heroic and powerful (younger) brother of Sri Rama, who, having renounced garlands and all kinds of jewels…because of whom Sumitra has earned the title of a blessed mother… who behaves towards Sri Rama as towards his father and treated me as his (own) mother…" This is what she thinks of Lakshmana in actuality, though in her impatience and confused state of mind, she sounded so harsh, with the sole purpose of pushing him away from that place.

Nor did Lakshmana take it into his heart and nurse a grudge against her for having uttered these words. Even when Rama chides him for having left his post of duty and come in search of him abandoning Sita, he does not mention these words to him. Listen to his words:

"I have not come here leaving her of myself by voluntary action. I have sought your presence here only when urged by her in pungent words." (Ibid, Canto LIX, Sloka 5) He merely states, 'pungent words,' and does not mention what they were! He knew after all, if he informs Rama, the result would not be pleasant.

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Posted: 12 years ago
neha looks like a cute doll to me..baby like..may be thats y we dont get the divine feeling..
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Posted: 12 years ago


the one who does not let us enjoy the show...

for eg..kajol was kabab mai haddi (KMH) when SRK and Rani were romancing in KKHH
illeana was KMH in barfi movie

actually rani was haddi in KKHH and priyanka was haddi in barfi 😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
no wonder neil took one year to come with next show...just look at the craps on air now...
they start with something and then it detaches from the main story line..
and when enquired about main story plot..all they say is current drama,kitchen fights etc is giving them trps..so we r not going back to main plot..are u kidding me??? how the hell these ppl get creative satisfaction...MONEY only speaks in teleworld...story jaaye bhaad main...😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

the one who does not let us enjoy the show...

for eg..kajol was kabab mai haddi (KMH) when SRK and Rani were romancing in KKHH
illeana was KMH in barfi movie

actually rani was haddi in KKHH and priyanka was haddi in barfi 😭

am saying in context of whom the male lead loved
ya rani was KMH eventually...

i dint feel priayanka was KMH...
btw i did not like BARFI...could not understand the hype over it..

WAKE UP SID for me anytime...😳
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: arti07

SITA AND LAKSHMANA CONFRONTATION

wen lakshmana didnt move hearing the call of demon sita became extemely angry...The drama as painted by Valmiki shows Sita extremely agitated and pouring verbal acid over Lakshmana. She says things, which she otherwise would not have dreamt of saying. It was indeed unkindly and unbecoming of her to accuse Lakshmana of motives that could not even be in the innermost recesses of this most loyal, obedient and self-effacing younger brother, who was nothing other than a child, the eldest son, for this couple until then.

"You are as it were an enemy of your brother in the guise of a friend, O Lakshmana (son of Sumitra) in that you do not rush to the help of your brother (even) in this predicament. For my sake, O Lakshmana, you wish Sri Rama to perish. Surely due to greed for me you do not follow Sri Rama (a scion of Raghu)." (Valmiki Ramayana, Aranya Kanda, Canto XLV, Sloka 6, 7) "Having served as my husband Sri Rama of lotus-like eyes and dark-brown as a blue lotus, how can I covet an ordinary man (like you)? I shall undoubtedly give up the ghost in your presence, O son of Sumitra!" (Ibid, Sloka 26)

remember we have already seen the scene where lakshman said to break the bow himself sita use this trick to push him away she said lakshman had a eye on her since he attented the swayamvar...


This was something that Lakshmana did not expect and could not take it any more. "I dare not make a reply (to you), since you are a deity to me," he replies. (Sloka 27-28). "May all be well with you, O lady of charming countenance! Let all the sylvan deities protect you, O large-eyed lady! The fearful evil portents which appear before my eyes indeed make me doubtful whether when come back with Sri Rama I shall be able to see you." (Ibid, Sloka 33-34)

Critics are rather not convinced about the need for the use of such words. But it should be remembered that though Sita directed such unbecoming words towards Lakshmana, she did not really mean what she said. Her purpose was to push Lakshmana away from that place to go in search of Rama, for her fear was so great. She knew very well Lakshmana would not move from that place unless he is shocked or put under pressure of an extreme kind. Her words were meant to drive him in search of Rama and nothing more than that.

We hear her heart in the Sundara Kanda, when she speaks of Lakshmana to Hanuman and tells him, "Inquiries concerning welfare should be addressed on my behalf and in my name to Lakshmana, that heroic and powerful (younger) brother of Sri Rama, who, having renounced garlands and all kinds of jewels'because of whom Sumitra has earned the title of a blessed mother' who behaves towards Sri Rama as towards his father and treated me as his (own) mother'" This is what she thinks of Lakshmana in actuality, though in her impatience and confused state of mind, she sounded so harsh, with the sole purpose of pushing him away from that place.

Nor did Lakshmana take it into his heart and nurse a grudge against her for having uttered these words. Even when Rama chides him for having left his post of duty and come in search of him abandoning Sita, he does not mention these words to him. Listen to his words:

"I have not come here leaving her of myself by voluntary action. I have sought your presence here only when urged by her in pungent words." (Ibid, Canto LIX, Sloka 5) He merely states, 'pungent words,' and does not mention what they were! He knew after all, if he informs Rama, the result would not be pleasant.


wow indeed harsh lines

@red : very touching and emotional..i hope they show this conversation...
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Posted: 12 years ago
one more interesting thing about Valmiki ramayana is that valmiki never projected "mother-son" relationship for lakshman and sita. If u see, lakshman always addresses Sita as bful woman in this ramayan version.
in those times devar meant dvitya var..this mother-son bond was projected later on...or we can say lakshman paved the way to see this relation as a pious one just like a mother and son...

thats why Sita takes the liberty of using such harsh words against Lakshman
Edited by nneeiill - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
if zee tv ramayan team is bold enough they will show ditto words..else they will take safe route..already we saw a hint of it by lakshman insisting on putr samaan devar..
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Posted: 12 years ago
as discussed earlier in some posts...
there is a debate that "bal kand " and "uttarkhand"..were added later on to valmiki ramayan..and these r the two khands which shows the divinity of Shri Ram..
personally i believe that Valmiki only showed RAM as human only..


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