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Posted: 16 years ago
#41

@ arti and lats55,

Obviously I know that these are pics from a serial, but if you saw Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan, and heard the speech Ramanand Sagarji gave before and afterwards, he did a lot of research in Hindu scriptures, both with the dresscode, story, and settings, etc before he directed the serial. And yes, Hindu scriptures do give a description of the clothing women wore. Read Ayodhya Kand in Ramayana and Draupadi's Vastra Haran in Mahabharata. These women existed were much before any of the women the historians describe. For a woman to expose her body was thought of as one of the greatest of all sins.

Anyway, leaving religion out and bringing history in, the women these historians describe are from after the Mughal times. The Mughal women had a totally different dress code from the women who originally lived in India (or Hindustan/Aryavrat as it was called back then), and being the rulers' wives, their dressing style greatly impacted the ones of the common women.
If you research into the times before Mughal Era, during the Rajput Era, you will see that women were properly covered then. It is because of the influence of Mughal women and the British women that these different styles of dressing arose, but before that, looking primarily at the Rajput Era and before, women were dignified and modest in their dressing.
If you want to read further on the ancient clothing of women, go to this website. It's more trustworthy than wikipedia.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/dhurandhar/images/large/pathare-prabhu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ancientwonders.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/ancient-clothing-of-india-women/&usg=__E4V_pvnovoQ6zcp9D1d2_-tXNDM=&h=550&w=387&sz=43&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=Vo_Jx5xrtfK30M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRajput%2Bwomen%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS253US296%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Anyway, it's a waste of time trying to argue our points here because none of us are going to change our minds. If you like Rakhi's clothing, then good for you, and if you don't, that's great.👍🏼 Either way, no one's going to change anyone's mind and as I have more important forums to spend my time on, I'm out of here.
Ciau!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Chits1

yes,deepika.I love her acting too.She is a Sita maiyya for me 😃

Yup, after the statues of Goddess Sita in temples, I imagine Sita Mata like Deepikaji only.😳😃 Her acting, graceful movements, modesty, and beauty all made her seem like she was Sita Devi.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_



Our culture requires us (both men and women) to wear decent clothing that does not reveal what should not be seen. An Indian is one who follows our culture, whether one believes that or not. Is it not merely to live in India, but to act like a proper Indain person.


It is not at all wrong to wear western clothes, but there are decent respectable western clothes as well. No one told her to wear revealing clothes. It's disgusting.🤢



yah seriously...i live abroad but i still hold the indian values that have been instilled in me and passed down on me..i am yet only 16 but in future when i have kids i would never let them where revealing clothes as it is totally unnessary...maybe in the galmaour world it is necessary to keep attention of fans but otherwise when talking about indian culture and values...it does not permit wearing revealing clothes....no matter what people think...people do judge by clothing about how much manners or values one has...when it is totally unnessary to dress like that there is simply no need...just an opinion...ofcourse there is a difference in wearing modern clothes or western clothes....but revealing clothes fall into the category of vulgarity...which i believe and many indians believe as well...you can dress elegantly without revealing also
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Posted: 16 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

@ arti and lats55,

Obviously I know that these are pics from a serial, but if you saw Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan, and heard the speech Ramanand Sagarji gave before and afterwards, he did a lot of research in Hindu scriptures, both with the dresscode, story, and settings, etc before he directed the serial. And yes, Hindu scriptures do give a description of the clothing women wore. Read Ayodhya Kand in Ramayana and Draupadi's Vastra Haran in Mahabharata. These women existed were much before any of the women the historians describe. For a woman to expose her body was thought of as one of the greatest of all sins.

Anyway, leaving religion out and bringing history in, the women these historians describe are from after the Mughal times. The Mughal women had a totally different dress code from the women who originally lived in India (or Hindustan/Aryavrat as it was called back then), and being the rulers' wives, their dressing style greatly impacted the ones of the common women.
If you research into the times before Mughal Era, during the Rajput Era, you will see that women were properly covered then. It is because of the influence of Mughal women and the British women that these different styles of dressing arose, but before that, looking primarily at the Rajput Era and before, women were dignified and modest in their dressing.
If you want to read further on the ancient clothing of women, go to this website. It's more trustworthy than wikipedia.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/dhurandhar/images/large/pathare-prabhu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ancientwonders.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/ancient-clothing-of-india-women/&usg=__E4V_pvnovoQ6zcp9D1d2_-tXNDM=&h=550&w=387&sz=43&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=Vo_Jx5xrtfK30M:&tbnh=133&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRajput%2Bwomen%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS253US296%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Anyway, it's a waste of time trying to argue our points here because none of us are going to change our minds. If you like Rakhi's clothing, then good for you, and if you don't, that's great.👍🏼 Either way, no one's going to change anyone's mind and as I have more important forums to spend my time on, I'm out of here.
Ciau!



you still got one direction of thinking... do you know the culture differences between south and north... entirely two different culture.... your talking or your ramanand sagar did a research only on the north indian style as rama is from Ayodhaya... which is North part of india.. where life style, food, clothing etc is different....

we are trying to bring some light into your thinking that... there is a different style of clothing existing in South... were goddess do not have any cloth on top part of the body,. whether it is sita, gita,kali or whatever goddess in the olden times...get hold of their images please... also what you worship of shiva?? you know...

so much you all are talking about indian clothing etc.. have you seen the pictures depicted in the temples of khajuraho etc... these are olden golden times of indian culture... those are god and goddess out there without clothes... (shiva parvati) what are you talking about indian scriptures and clothing styles... these are created by certain minds of indian man (not woman) in the history... in reality there was none existed and proof of it is these temples, which you can see in orissa, MP, Maharastra etc..

Rakhi's culture is this... so let her wear or not wear clothing is not going to make any difference, it is up to her to decide what to wear what not to.. since she is an indian citizen and a woman... you can call her indian woman of today..

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Posted: 16 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Kareena's World



yah seriously...i live abroad but i still hold the indian values that have been instilled in me and passed down on me..i am yet only 16 but in future when i have kids i would never let them where revealing clothes as it is totally unnessary...maybe in the galmaour world it is necessary to keep attention of fans but otherwise when talking about indian culture and values...it does not permit wearing revealing clothes....no matter what people think...people do judge by clothing about how much manners or values one has...when it is totally unnessary to dress like that there is simply no need...just an opinion...ofcourse there is a difference in wearing modern clothes or western clothes....but revealing clothes fall into the category of vulgarity...which i believe and many indians believe as well...you can dress elegantly without revealing also

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Posted: 16 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: lats55



you still got one direction of thinking... do you know the culture differences between south and north... entirely two different culture.... your talking or your ramanand sagar did a research only on the north indian style as rama is from Ayodhaya... which is North part of india.. where life style, food, clothing etc is different....

we are trying to bring some light into your thinking that... there is a different style of clothing existing in South... were goddess do not have any cloth on top part of the body,. whether it is sita, gita,kali or whatever goddess in the olden times...get hold of their images please... also what you worship of shiva?? you know...

so much you all are talking about indian clothing etc.. have you seen the pictures depicted in the temples of khajuraho etc... these are olden golden times of indian culture... those are god and goddess out there without clothes... (shiva parvati) what are you talking about indian scriptures and clothing styles... these are created by certain minds of indian man (not woman) in the history... in reality there was none existed and proof of it is these temples, which you can see in orissa, MP, Maharastra etc..

Rakhi's culture is this... so let her wear or not wear clothing is not going to make any difference, it is up to her to decide what to wear what not to.. since she is an indian citizen and a woman... you can call her indian woman of today..

These differences between North and South have only just originated. In the ancient times, there was no difference whether someone lived in the North or South, everyone dressed the same.
See, there you go again putting down men. I'm sorry, I cannot discuss with you further if you keep putting down our scriptures because "they were written by men". This unequal view of the other gender will never work well in debates.
And scriptures existed long before the temples. Just as you say the scriptures are written my "hypocritical" men, I can easily sat lustful men carved the topless pictures in temples. People who carve indecent caricatures on temples are only those who interpret the scriptures in a totally wrong way. Do you ever see any statues in temples that are topless? All the statues are properly clothed and adorned. That's what is written in our scriptures. This exposing clothing fashion originated in the western world, and many Indians living in India, dissatisfied by our culture as they usually are, eagerly embrace this dirty manner. After all though, it's Kali Yug yaar. What do you expect?😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: _LalithaJanaki_

These differences between North and South have only just originated. In the ancient times, there was no difference whether someone lived in the North or South, everyone dressed the same.
See, there you go again putting down men. I'm sorry, I cannot discuss with you further if you keep putting down our scriptures because "they were written by men". This unequal view of the other gender will never work well in debates.
And scriptures existed long before the temples. Just as you say the scriptures are written my "hypocritical" men, I can easily sat lustful men carved the topless pictures in temples. People who carve indecent caricatures on temples are only those who interpret the scriptures in a totally wrong way. Do you ever see any statues in temples that are topless? All the statues are properly clothed and adorned. That's what is written in our scriptures. This exposing clothing fashion originated in the western world, and many Indians living in India, dissatisfied by our culture as they usually are, eagerly embrace this dirty manner. After all though, it's Kali Yug yaar. What do you expect?😉



that is a new news to me.. i don't know that South people wear sweater etc in the hot climate, same like north and north in the cold people roam around with out tops... LOL.. what a discovery..thanks for this sensible information...😲
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manusmriti is the script written by manu ( i don't know that this person is gender less or what you call chakka)😆 who talks about behaviour of woman, what to wear what not to... another one kamasuthra (written by another genderless person-- valsayn )who talks about the clothing style of woman ... these are indian culture who speaks behaviour, clothing styles of woman and is been followed ...

Temples are places of worship.. indian culture never depicted bad about sex for that matter... it was alright for them in those times, shiva parvati is an example for this and you still worship!!!... that is the reason why those days , god and goddess is been engraved without clothes.. ( modern times can be churidar or pant😉) ...

it is just the way your out look is... how you are been brought up, how you view the world is... but it was not like that in india olden times, until the time of foreign invasion... which has changed people's out look, clothing style etc...
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Posted: 16 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Kareena's World



yah seriously...i live abroad but i still hold the indian values that have been instilled in me and passed down on me..i am yet only 16 but in future when i have kids i would never let them where revealing clothes as it is totally unnessary...maybe in the galmaour world it is necessary to keep attention of fans but otherwise when talking about indian culture and values...it does not permit wearing revealing clothes....no matter what people think...people do judge by clothing about how much manners or values one has...when it is totally unnessary to dress like that there is simply no need...just an opinion...ofcourse there is a difference in wearing modern clothes or western clothes....but revealing clothes fall into the category of vulgarity...which i believe and many indians believe as well...you can dress elegantly without revealing also

wah ! I am proud of you dear.I have a son older than you and I can see that yr parents seem to have instilled our indian values and traditions,just like me and I am sure,there are many more like you.Otherwise,I can see that most kids yr age are already badly influenced by the western cutlure and when they express their views,it is clear.Well said !👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
#49
Lalitha,like I said..many are immatured youngsters here,with a few exceptions..no use arguing with them..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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For very matured people who requires some enlightenment related to south indian dress style.. following are existed in the olden times or presently existing syles...(not saries or pants like north) south they use lungis.. ramayan story sita maata is not wearing any of these dress 😆















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