The return of the Father... 23.2.2015

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Mandy

@MrDarcyfan

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Posted: 10 years ago

#21

@ Jayne : You are a genius! Just loved the two videos. You know that is my all time favorite line from Star Wars? "I am your Father!" It was the most epic line and always will remain so. I have yet to meet a Star Wars fan who doesn't think that!

Do Tweet this to KV, or get someone to. (If your not on Twitter, and I am not either, but looks like I should join!). I am sure he will have a good laugh over it. He seems like a guy with a good sense of humor.

The return of the Father is just epic. I cant believe Tanveer was keeping Nawaab alive all this time! Whatever the Hell for, is my question? The whole thing is full of loopholes. But for shock value, I guess it was a good twist. What I don't get is the pre-cap? Why get Sanam to go and "Tell the truth" to Aahil, when she can untie him so HE can tell him the truth. At that point, was Sanam's hand's still tied or not? Cant remember!

Either ways, I am SO ready for Aahil to know about Tanveer and the twins, and also for Tanveer's grand death! (I hope it's grand).

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 10 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
I don't mind Nawab alive revelation/twist.
But Sagey, you bring up the one point that in my skimming the forum didn't bother much with.

Nawab is still a POS jackass. I hope they don't forget that and let that be forgotten in the midst of reveling how he was also a victim of Tanveer. He was a victim, and he is now going to be instrumental in revealing the truth, but if they have some father-son happy reunion, I will give them the finger.

If the sight of the whip upset Aahil so much before, imagine finding his father alive and well??

I'd be horrified for Aahil ! He'd.have a nervous breakdown right there?!

Sure he can be sorry, maybe adverse situations at the time made him beat Aahil. But he needs to say sorry and Aahil needs to give forgiveness with a dose of open hearted reluctance.

Not Asad 2.0 style kissing hands and crying please.

Edited by sageflower7 - 10 years ago

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

But what adverse situations? They're gonna blame Tanveer for that? Why do they need to do that? No matter what, he did what he did. The flashbacks we saw was him beating him for breaking a glass, If I remember.

Aahil's diary talked about Nawab and Tanveer fighting and Nawab wanting him to stay away from New Ammi, but even before that Aahil was a broken boy from the entry where he wrote first about his father having brought a nayi Ammi home.

It doesn't sit well with me for the Nawab's extreme child abuse to be blamed on Tanveer. That is pretty sick.

That's what I fear that they may do. Put it on Tanveer somehow, or his grief over his losing his wife maybe. But losing your wife, and depression and alcoholic actions which can be made more "understandable" or sympathetic are if he just neglected in grief, yelled, was indifferent, etc.

Not beating your son with a whip, amongst other things.

I don't understand why the need to explain any situational excuse for his actions. I hope not. His days as prisoner can have led him to reflect and feel guilty and turn a leaf. But why not leave it at that,.instead of trying to find an excuse(Tanveer!lol) for why he did what he did?

(Or, Nawab can still remain the POS and not be regretful and still only care about his bloodline and wealth. But that's unlikely)

Edited by KhatamKahani - 10 years ago

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Esha

@Raingoddess

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
But what adverse situations? They're gonna blame Tanveer for that? Why do they need to do that? No matter what, he did what he did. The flashbacks we saw was him beating him for breaking a glass, If I remember.
Aahil's diary talked about Nawab and Tanveer fighting and Nawab wanting him to stay away from New Ammi, but even before that Aahil was a broken boy from the entry where he wrote first about his father having brought a nayi Ammi home.

It doesn't sit well with me for the Nawab's extreme child abuse to be blamed on Tanveer. That is pretty sick.

That's what I fear that they may do. Put it on Tanveer somehow, or his fried over his losing his wife may be. But losing g your wife, and depression and alcoholic actions which can be made more "understandable" or sympathetic are if he just neglected in grief, yelled, was in different, etc.

Not beating your son with a whip, amongst other things.

I don't understand why the need to explain any situational excuse for his actions. I hope not. His days as prisoner can have led him to reflect and feel guilty and turn a leaf. But why not leave it at that,.instead of trying to find an excuse(Tanveer!lol) for why he did what he did?

(Or, Nawab can still remain the POS and not be regretful and still only care about his bloodline and wealth. But that's unlikely)

Tanveer gets blamed for things she has not done more than for the horrendous things she has done lol its kinda easy to place the blame on her n get away with it! No matter what they show, changed leaf or not, it doesnt change the fact that he used to whip his son and lock him up for hours! If he had merely yelled, avoided or sent him away, it would be different. For example, if the daughter is indeed his, I feel that he sent her away for her safety. Maybe to family in Pak? Jamila said she sold her, not that she was sold after that. The nawab figured if she grew up with her mother or stayed in touch, she would turn out like her. That is understandable. But what he did to Aahil cannot be justified in my eyes. Abuse is abuse. They should not explain anything. Yes, his perspective can shed light on Aahil's childhood in terms of why his father wanted him away from his nayi ammi, for Aahil himself. Also what else scheming Billi did at that time. But it doesnt change the fact that he was an abuser. They should not bring him back with the intention to "explain" the abuse. I do hope cvs handle this properly. Nothing overtly dramatic, but rather in a thoughtful way. Aahil can let him stay with them, he doesnt have to share any relationship with him. But no happy tearful reunion plz!!

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sylvia99

@sylvia99

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Don't know the significance of return of Father

They faked the death to a child but how could the whole Bhopal where article about murder is being written.

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Esha

@Raingoddess

Sparkler

Posted: 10 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: sageflower7

If the sight of the whip upset Aahil so much before, imagine finding his father alive and well??

I'd be horrified for Aahil ! He'd.have a nervous breakdown right there?!

Sure he can be sorry, maybe adverse situations at the time made him beat Aahil. But he needs to say sorry and Aahil needs to give forgiveness with a dose of open hearted reluctance.

Not Asad 2.0 style kissing hands and crying please.

@Bold def not! Unless they have lost it! Tho the case of Rashid was different, he failed in many ways but he still cared and wished well for his children. I cant imagine him abusing his kids at all. Although that was a bit random and over dramatic considering when he left, there was so much bitterness. It was too much of a quick change lol But as for Aahil, like I said, it would be like a nightmare coming true. Seeing the true face of his mother and then seeing his abusive father alive, will be pretty life changing and horrific events for him. As much as we are upset at him, I def feel scared n hurt for him, it wont be easy at all! The final moment that we waited for all season is finally here!!

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 10 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: minnie2308
A very creepy violent episode.
Ahil should not reunite with abusive dad. I dreaded only this and am glad many of you found that distasteful too ...I hope they do not forget Ahil's speech on abbu's birthday... He pretty much said he hated his dad... So there. The extreme violence is in the episode was off putting.

Yes it was dark and seemingly the goodguys are led around either in the fog or tied up.

But Nawab's appearance brought a curveball. .. I think he may provide the proof and answers to everything. I am stoked that he will have answers but not that he is back in Aahil's life ..

In hope the writers remember he has panic attacks whenever his father's name was mentioned before. This meeting is going have the eyeballs.please do it right!!

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708922

Hibernated

Posted: 10 years ago

#28

Fantastic post!

*Sigh* Of course they brought back the Nawab... with that flashback of the daughter...we all knew it was coming at some point.

I don't even know what they are going to do when it comes to Nawab and Aahil seeing each other again. Agreed. No reunions. That relationship is very murky.

Knowing the CVs, they will lazily write it off as Tanveer forcing the Nawab to do abuse his own child. 😳 *rolls eyes*

I don't even want to start on how stupid Nawab telling Sanam to tell Aahil the truth sounds. W*F?! No you go tell him idiot! IT's better to hear from the horse's mouth than the messenger! Are you trying to get the messenger killed, because that's what it looks like! UGH. SO. MUCH. STUPID. You know what I can't even blame the characters when they have such unimaginative creatives writing such insipidly illogical screenplays.

Also I know this is not the place, but earlier I skimmed over some spoiler on forum that Sanam is going to fall off some cliff into the sea and float all the way to Pakistan???

Normally, I would laugh that off as being senseless and completely ridiculous, even for a soap. BUT...this is QH, we are talking about.

Considering the way they are haphazardly wrapping up QH2 with Aahil finding out everything, Tanveer somehow dying, Sanam2 getting away with murder, and SaHil having a happy Holi that will be a turning point for the QH3 leap - it actually makes sense as to why the CVs would do this..and here's my theory

They get the main leads to move on in a way where they don't hate each other or MU each other, simply because they have forgotten each other!

That way they can kill so much more time till end of year extension has completed.

When QH3 starts, we will first have Sanam having moved on Pakistan, with her memory loss and meeting new guy. Aahil on the other hand has forgotten Sanam because of S2's magic..

...(OR the other possibility is he has moved on because he had no choice in that he lives with S2, but yearns for his 1st wife who he thinks has tragically died in an accident). And his angst will be worse because he will remember all the times she stood for him always even when he was horrible to her and completely steamrolled over her.

The junoon is going to be rough on him. Poor guy, but definitely worth seeing and honestly he deserves it - we all know how badly KV kills when in junoony angst.

CVs can pretty much kill a lot of time with a renewed story - love and drama combined.

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

Rocker

+ 5

Posted: 10 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: SheAish
Oh man, now that my thoughts have turned to this, I can't stop thinking that the cvs infact WOULD show a a happy reunion with the father.🤢😡
That would be so SICK...even if they show that Tanveer made him do it somehow (still wacko) it defies every kind of logic out there that someone would abuse a kid again and again like that...

I know right Aish

You know perfectly well the writers are perfectly capable of brushing off the very thing that made Aahil tick as a character, his dark troubled past. I really hope they don't though. I hope KV has some clout to argue his character arc.

They'll be better off showing the Nawab being very apologetic and vowing to make it up to Aahil slowly, just to give him a chance.

Edited by sageflower7 - 10 years ago

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minnie2308

@minnie2308

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani
But what adverse situations? They're gonna blame Tanveer for that? Why do they need to do that? No matter what, he did what he did. The flashbacks we saw was him beating him for breaking a glass, If I remember.

Aahil's diary talked about Nawab and Tanveer fighting and Nawab wanting him to stay away from New Ammi, but even before that Aahil was a broken boy from the entry where he wrote first about his father having brought a nayi Ammi home.

It doesn't sit well with me for the Nawab's extreme child abuse to be blamed on Tanveer. That is pretty sick.

That's what I fear that they may do. Put it on Tanveer somehow, or his grief over his losing his wife maybe. But losing your wife, and depression and alcoholic actions which can be made more "understandable" or sympathetic are if he just neglected in grief, yelled, was indifferent, etc.

Not beating your son with a whip, amongst other things.

I don't understand why the need to explain any situational excuse for his actions. I hope not. His days as prisoner can have led him to reflect and feel guilty and turn a leaf. But why not leave it at that,.instead of trying to find an excuse(Tanveer!lol) for why he did what he did?

(Or, Nawab can still remain the POS and not be regretful and still only care about his bloodline and wealth. But that's unlikely)

KK , we have lost all trust on the CVs with regards to show of delicate emotions. The first sign of it started with a silly sister reunion.. they didn't have the capability to portray the aftermath of Swap and delayed it.

Now I dread them passing the parcel of Dad's abuse on Tanveer. I doubt if they read or watch their own past episodes to link that Aahil has been shown to be extremely sensitive about violence... his dialogs while he built that dreamhouse with Sanam are a testimony to it.

with this POS still alive, they have so much masala to show Sanam give that oldie back in her typical Sanam style. She definitely lived that nightmare with Aahil. But sigh, drama rules more than emotional attyachar😆😭

Anyhow, I'd be satisfied with a cold shoulder from Aahil and Sanam to that old man. But who am I kidding? Who's got the time for any kind of shoulder... Sanam will be stealing a dolphin from Bhopal Zoo and riding on its back to Pakistan(CVs please steal this highly original idea of my friend KaanKeNiche)... I am sure some magical sea route will appear smack in the middle of the land that is surrounded by land on all four sides😕

And the last line- I'd rather that happens. But again keeping grey people grey, does not figure in the list of CVs forte

Edited by minnie2308 - 10 years ago