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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: A.Hajnal

Mona, I am with you on this matter...but in today's episode, I felt the apology of Asad showed how he cares about her...He has alway been different than her in this matter...He is an adult, and has always acted like one, so even now he felt guilty that he is taking her away with him because of his personal reasons and it was only his decision, and he has learnt from last track that he can't take decision for them without asking her...So, that is why he asked sorry...That apology of his showed nothing more then how much he appreciates her presence in his life right now when everyone has left him...

About Asad being wrong or not, we all know when a person is hurt, he/she is hurt, and we can't except them to think rationally about wrong and right...If Zoya was not wrong in escaping to Ajmer when she thought she was betrayed by the man she loved...Then neither is Asad wrong from wanting to escape from a place that now only represents the agony he feels...So he was never wrong is wanting to go away from that palce...It's a survival instinct of us to just escape from the pain or ignore it...

He has ignored it for years, now he just want to escape from it...

But yes, I would love to see her accepting her mistakes and ask forgiveness when she is wrong...


Yes, today Asad's apology is well thought out. I meant in general - Asad does not need to be sorry for hating his father - someone needs to understand his pain also - its not easy to live the life he has, and Zoya is a bit of a hypocrite in a way - everything she does should be forgiven. When she ran away from everyone, it was fine, but now she wont understand why Asad wants to do that, and its okay to explain to him not to do that, but why abandon him? My question is not who is right or who is wrong (todays episode was great and beautiful there) but whether Zoya can own up some of her mistakes, show some character growth and be sensitive to Asad's pain? I think the journey of QH will be much more beuatiful that way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ZFAAK

completely agree with you... Hamesha asad ko hi sorry bolna padta hain... Even I am also waiting for a day when Zoya will realize her mistake and would say sorry... But I think that's not possible...

But overall episode is good... If you have not watched, I suggest you to watch it for our Karan baby...


I would definitely watch it... :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i just dont get everyone has the right to live their life and leave whoever they want whenever they want bc its their life...but asad doesn't.
zoya if u don't want to go then dont. stop trying to stop asad. werent you the one who said asad was wrong to stop dilshad bc dilshad has the right to make her own decisions. why i don't get why asad has to stay if dilshad didn't.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: monaco



today, yes, both were right but i have a problem with zoya never owning up her mistakes ever. Asad can understand her pain - she atleast has the hope that her father did not disown her - he has lived with the pain that his father chose something else over him and let them die in pain. had rashid raelly cared for dilshad he would have atleast tried to support them financially or left his mother with them to take care of the kids or something... i am fully with asad on this one, and though zoya is right she is not as sensitive as she needs to

maza toh tab ayega jab zoya k Abu ka raaz khulega tab sad ko use bade bade lecture dena chahiye k accept ur father what if he dies tab dekhenge kya karengi sabka time ata h n I feel k she will even hate radjid bcoz somehow he was related to zoyas moms death 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: monaco


Yes, today Asad's apology is well thought out. I meant in general - Asad does not need to be sorry for hating his father - someone needs to understand his pain also - its not easy to live the life he has, and Zoya is a bit of a hypocrite in a way - everything she does should be forgiven. When she ran away from everyone, it was fine, but now she wont understand why Asad wants to do that, and its okay to explain to him not to do that, but why abandon him? My question is not who is right or who is wrong (todays episode was great and beautiful there) but whether Zoya can own up some of her mistakes, show some character growth and be sensitive to Asad's pain? I think the journey of QH will be much more beuatiful that way.


In general, I agree with you...I have expected her to do that since the start of this track and she has proven that she does not understand the man Asad Ahmed Khan is...She has problem when he tries to make her understand that how creating mess isn't a thing a mature woman will do...She accuses him for trying to change her...But she has never noticed how she always tries to change his view on every damn matter...So in general, I also hate this habit of hers to prove thats she is right...And writers and Cvs write so Big and impressing dialogues for her...But the truth is that she is immature and can't understand the depth of the pain that has ruled over Asad's life all these years...

So, yes, I HATE how everytime they go and prove her the "Mahan"...While she has no idea of life that a child lives knowing his father is alive but he has to do to fulfill every responsibility of his father because apparently his father is busy having fun with an other woman and play husband and father for the other family...

She says she loves Dilshaad more then Asad because she is more then just mother for her...
She says Asad should forgive Rashid for every damn wrong thing he did because apparently having a blood tie gives the advantage to be forgiven for every crime and misdeed that a man could commit...

But when the time will come, she will have a taste of her own medicine and will see how a child feels when he/she gets to know the things his/her so called father have done...and how much hate he/she feels when they get to know that her/his father is the reason of her/his every pain...

So, all we can do is hope that that day, she finally will be mature and have enough experience to understand the depth of the pain of the child that still lives in the man Asad Ahmed Khan has become...
Edited by A.Hajnal - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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They are both right in their own place.

Asad is tired of having to put up with the pain and loss of his parents. First his Abbu, and then now his Ammi. Now he only has Zoya, and believes he has to right to assume that she will be there for him always. So deciding to take her with him is not wrong either. He even acknowledged it to her, that he was guilty of keeping her from searching for her Abbu. But he also knows how much she loves him. So he is not wrong. He's being impulsive and running away from his pain. It's not wrong. it's human. It's a survival instinct. He's reached his breaking point. I mean he lost his mother and his brother all in once day. That's a harsh reality for him. He's always seen her as his pillar, even with accepting his feelings for Zoya. And now her leaving him, is really a low blow for him. He feels like giving up. But notice how he still doesn't blame his mother. He just CANNOT see her in a negative light. Because she's been HIS hero. His whole life. And that image has been cracked a tad, but it's still intact for the most part. He still blames his father. And frankly, I do too. This IS and will ALWAYS BE, Rashid's fault. For having no spine, and thinking only of himself.

And Zoya is not staying back to find her Abbu. She's not that selfish. In fact because she's not selfish, and can't have Asad all to herself while he, his abbu AND his mother all are suffering, physically and emotionally. She had adopted this as her own family and is trying to keep them together because she has been the victim of a broken family, that can never be whole again. She knows first hand what the loss of a mother feels like, and she's lived it her whole life. She doesn't want him to go through that, that's why she made him call Dilshad. But unfortunately Rashid decided to wake up and realize that he also "needs" his son. And that cause Asad to again say things he shouldn't have in anger. But Zoya's mind set is to keep his family intact, to bring them together, like she hasn't been able to do with her own. And because she loves him, she tried to stop him again. Not go with him. She is right in staying back, and telling him to stay back. But she is not wrong in wanting him to rebuild a relationship with Dilshad. Zoya did say something very true. "Relationships are meant to be nurtured. Not broken." And she has a TRUER value of relationships, because she has so few in her life that have lasted, and that she can truly, and proudly, call hers.

So I'm sorry, I disagree. They are both right in their own place. And this episode actually managed to show that BRILLIANTLY. After a long time, I am proud to say I remember why I love this show.

Now the true story will unfold, of Zoya bringing the families together, and eventually finding out who her Abbu was, all along.

Edited: That being said, I do agree that Zoya being the one to push Dilshad to leave was not right. I can see Zoya's POV. And her reasoning is right. But one minute she's telling Dilshad it'll break Asad, and the next she's pushing her to leave. I didn't agree with that at all. There Zoya was wrong. If Dilshad said she couldn't leave her son, then Zoya should have insisted she stay, or told her to trust her gut. Not pushed her out the door.
Edited by mochhug - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Word to everything you said...

👏


Unfortunately though I hope that Gaffur truth will mean she will taste her own medicine, I fear that even then she will be glorified. :)

But just like you say in your signature (which is exactly my condition/haalat right now, Qubool hai, I am "Boccaccio", you are my "Fiammetta". Even after many betrayals and heartbreaks, here I am, eyes closed, singing "Lalalala"

So I will keep watching and singing Lalalala...

Originally posted by: A.Hajnal

In general, I agree with you...I have expected her to do that since the start of this track and she has proven that she does not understand the man Asad Ahmed Khan is...She has problem when he tries to make her understand that how creating mess isn't a thing a mature woman will do...She accuses him for trying to change her...But she has never noticed how she always tries to change his view on every damn matter...So in general, I also hate this habit of hers to prove thats she is right...And writers and Cvs write so Big and impressing dialogues for her...But the truth is that she is immature and can't understand the depth of the pain that has ruled over Asad's life all these years...

So, yes, I HATE how everytime they go and prove her the "Mahan"...While she has no idea of life that a child lives knowing his father is alive but he has to do to fulfill every responsibility of his father because apparently his father is busy having fun with an other woman and play husband and father for the other family...

She says she loves Dilshaad more then Asad because she is more then just mother for her...
She says Asad should forgive Rashid for every damn wrong thing he did because apparently having a blood tie gives the advantage to be forgiven for every crime and misdeed that a man could commit...

But when the time will come, she will have a taste of her own medicine and will see how a child feels when he/she gets to know the things his/her so called father have done...and how much hate he/she feels when they get to know that her/his father is the reason of her/his every pain...

So, all we can do is hope that that day, she finally will be mature and have enough experience to understand the depth of the pain of the child that still lives in the man Asad Ahmed Khan has become...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: monaco

Word to everything you said...

👏


Unfortunately though I hope that Gaffur truth will mean she will taste her own medicine, I fear that even then she will be glorified. :)

But just like you say in your signature (which is exactly my condition/haalat right now, Qubool hai, I am "Boccaccio", you are my "Fiammetta". Even after many betrayals and heartbreaks, here I am, eyes closed, singing "Lalalala"

So I will keep watching and singing Lalalala...


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Thank you...Oh, I knowww...I knoww...also I feel that way some time, but the least we can do is hope that she will then understand Asad...

Aww, showing the effects-of-the-devastation-that-QH-can-bring you haan...??Welcome to this side of QH's lala land... 😳 lol

Stop thinking, just watch and sing Lalala...🤗 lol

P.s...I know, its difficult...I am still not able to do that...But some day we will be...(Maybe😆)
Edited by A.Hajnal - 11 years ago

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