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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi meri pyaari green😃I am feeling kinda of sad too that even after this amazing post you were not able to convince me😆😆
Ohk so i beging with the fact that i don't agree with the fact that 'they don't need to' talk coz they do need to IMO..This isn't some silly couple fight about how she doesn't give him enough time or about he always keeps doing things she doesn't like...The fact remains zoya ran from her wedding got married to asad's brother accidentally and then asad traded her...no rosy picture there green this was the harsh truth no matter how you put it.Kind of sad that Najma a girl who is blind in love gives love adivice to his brother and it is then he realizes that how wrong he was...
My biggest question?has zoya truly realized that had she not run away from the wedding none of this would have happened?
We all know that asad has realized that he was wrong to hurt and abandon zoya but that isn't even my problem after her bond stint i think she deserved some pain but has he realized he had absolutely no right to make that decision?I don't think so...
the fact that neither of them sees the "trading" as trading is the worst part of the situation coz it was "trading" and here i will blame the makers to show that trading is ok because apparently when you are in love everything is fair..It isn't IMO
About zoya's ta umr dialogue and her belief in marriage-Was that such a bad thing that her belief had to be broken?
I don't think she ever believed in a loveless marriageand that is why she ran away from her wedding with akram.She was going to marry asad whom she loved and not entering into a loveless marriage...and the very eventful night she told ayaan "ki uske liye nkaah isn't about some rituals but about the person she loves and her heart loves only asad"...she awlways knew it why the need for such lesson?😕
Why does a man need her fiance to be traded away to realize that she should be her first priority?
My biggest problem with zoya that she didn't pack her bags and leave for NY the moment asad decided to make the decision for her...She made a mistakes yes but she didn't deserve the punishment that she was given infact no woman does but well who am i to complain when she herlself lets the man walk all over her?
Holding a grudge can be unhealthy as you said and had this been any normal circumstances i would have let this go but what happened was big very big and to just brsuhit under the rug like nothing happened was foolish and unrealistic...a couple who actually would have gone through something like this would be awkward and uncomfortable and not romancing away to glory...i am not saying they can't make things right they can but they needed to work on their realionship and the fact that they don't think their relationship was damaged is sad very sad
My biggest problem here is with makers
Firstly they butchered every single character IMO beyond repair and they are doing nothing to mend it makes it even worse.
Well i don't pity them because the serial is their bread and butter and they find it hard salvaging a situation.Zoyaan was a very bad move and well the falling TRPs their muqaddar...i say they deserve it truly.
What purpose did zoyaan achieve?
If you will say that zoya's ta umr philosophy was changed and asad realised that zoya should be her priority then as i said zoya always maintained love is thye most important thing and i say just to clarify her thinking they ruined asya well it wasn't worth it and it shouldn't take so much for a man to realize that the love of his life should be her first priority.
Also i don't think making asad nd zoya learn anything was the reason behind zoyaan.Had the TRPs not fallen they would have gone ahead with zoyaan IMO but they got scared simple.Had they not intended zoyaan we wouldn't have seen so much symbolisms coz these were beyond mere teasing.So ya i feel cheated as a viewer with the dishonest storytelling.
Asya died the day asad decided he could just trade zoya away like a commodity and when zoya let him walk all over him and the fact that these two never realized how grave the situation was and decided to talk it out liek adults till now doesn't help their cause at all.
P.S.-As you can see i am very very hurt with whatever has happened so pardon my rant😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankita.M

Firstly BRILLIANT post 😳 Thanks for the PM <3 I had seen this topic through my phone and had decided I'd come on and reply 😆

I agree entirely.. like I said in one of my posts before that Asad and Zoya have already communicated. They both have met a number of times in the last few weeks. There was a time when Zoya was angry, Asad was guilty, they spoke it out and hugged each other conveying the need and desire to be with each other. The other time they met and had a confrontation, Zoya was reeling under the guilt of going against her own belief, making a mockery out of marriage and also was pained to call anyone but Asad her 'shauhar'. She vent her ordeal to Asad, and Asad who is such a believer of traditions also made her realize that love goes beyond everything. Zoya was yet trying to balance her emotions, giving importance to a duty of not hurting the family in SM and surpressing her desire to just run away to Asad. But when Asad walked in through SM, stood up for her, for their love, and she realized that she was indeed HIS FIRST priority now she got the strength to fight too. They both wanted to be together, that was the universal truth for them, because they both knew they both had made mistakes and both were suffering because of them, but they also knew they had learnt a lesson and wouldn't do anything ever again that would cost them the amount it did this time.

Asad and Zoya have never communicated much to each other, they've only spoken, whether in fights, in their bickering, in their nonsensical banter or just merely talking anything. But have they needed to communicate? NO

Asad hates his dad, has issues in trusting others, has had a huge burden of responsibilities from a young age hunching his back now, and this burden constricts him in expressing. But HAS he ever told Zoya that in clear words? NO .. BUT Zoya knows of it, she knows exactly what he feels and why he does. She knew it even when they hadn't realized they were in love.

Zoya has always been an independent girl, because she never really had a choice. She is an abandoned child, and surely she might have wanted someone in her life to prioritize her, someone to pamper her and make her happy, but does she say it? NO .. BUT slowly and gradually realizing this in their relation Asad has become that person for her whom she depends upon and who wants to protect her and always does. (sooner or later, before people point out anything 😛) When the Tanveer fiasco happened, their relation had just begun, so they sat down and had a number of conversations dealing with the issue and got over it. But they immediately set on to pamper each other so that they could spend time together and a happy time together and clear the mess their life was. NOW their relation has taken mighty steps ahead, they no longer need to communicate to each other to make the other understand their feelings.

Some people do not need to communicate, their actions do the needful. Asad and Zoya know each other too well to express anything to the other at every given point. They've been more about feelings than words and this has been the highlight in their relation from the very start.



Yeah, talking to express themselves (on an emotional level I mean, not their constant nok-jhok haha), is something they in fact haven't been doing from the beginning. Because yeah, they sort of understand each other without the use of words. And you've very succinctly put together all the instances where words did not matter to them, as did Niki in an earlier post as well, so I really don't have anything to add on to that haha. Agree with everything you said (:
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: anushreemishra

Hi meri pyaari green😃I am feeling kinda of sad too that even after this amazing post you were not able to convince me😆😆

Ohk so i beging with the fact that i don't agree with the fact that 'they don't need to' talk coz they do need to IMO..This isn't some silly couple fight about how she doesn't give him enough time or about he always keeps doing things she doesn't like...The fact remains zoya ran from her wedding got married to asad's brother accidentally and then asad traded her...no rosy picture there green this was the harsh truth no matter how you put it.Kind of sad that Najma a girl who is blind in love gives love adivice to his brother and it is then he realizes that how wrong he was...
My biggest question?has zoya truly realized that had she not run away from the wedding none of this would have happened?
We all know that asad has realized that he was wrong to hurt and abandon zoya but that isn't even my problem after her bond stint i think she deserved some pain but has he realized he had absolutely no right to make that decision?I don't think so...
the fact that neither of them sees the "trading" as trading is the worst part of the situation coz it was "trading" and here i will blame the makers to show that trading is ok because apparently when you are in love everything is fair..It isn't IMO
About zoya's ta umr dialogue and her belief in marriage-Was that such a bad thing that her belief had to be broken?
I don't think she ever believed in a loveless marriageand that is why she ran away from her wedding with akram.She was going to marry asad whom she loved and not entering into a loveless marriage...and the very eventful night she told ayaan "ki uske liye nkaah isn't about some rituals but about the person she loves and her heart loves only asad"...she awlways knew it why the need for such lesson?😕
Why does a man need her fiance to be traded away to realize that she should be her first priority?
My biggest problem with zoya that she didn't pack her bags and leave for NY the moment asad decided to make the decision for her...She made a mistakes yes but she didn't deserve the punishment that she was given infact no woman does but well who am i to complain when she herlself lets the man walk all over her?
Holding a grudge can be unhealthy as you said and had this been any normal circumstances i would have let this go but what happened was big very big and to just brsuhit under the rug like nothing happened was foolish and unrealistic...a couple who actually would have gone through something like this would be awkward and uncomfortable and not romancing away to glory...i am not saying they can't make things right they can but they needed to work on their realionship and the fact that they don't think their relationship was damaged is sad very sad
My biggest problem here is with makers
Firstly they butchered every single character IMO beyond repair and they are doing nothing to mend it makes it even worse.
Well i don't pity them because the serial is their bread and butter and they find it hard salvaging a situation.Zoyaan was a very bad move and well the falling TRPs their muqaddar...i say they deserve it truly.
What purpose did zoyaan achieve?
If you will say that zoya's ta umr philosophy was changed and asad realised that zoya should be her priority then as i said zoya always maintained love is thye most important thing and i say just to clarify her thinking they ruined asya well it wasn't worth it and it shouldn't take so much for a man to realize that the love of his life should be her first priority.
Also i don't think making asad nd zoya learn anything was the reason behind zoyaan.Had the TRPs not fallen they would have gone ahead with zoyaan IMO but they got scared simple.Had they not intended zoyaan we wouldn't have seen so much symbolisms coz these were beyond mere teasing.So ya i feel cheated as a viewer with the dishonest storytelling.
Asya died the day asad decided he could just trade zoya away like a commodity and when zoya let him walk all over him and the fact that these two never realized how grave the situation was and decided to talk it out liek adults till now doesn't help their cause at all.
P.S.-As you can see i am very very hurt with whatever has happened so pardon my rant😆😆😆



Anu (: Yeah, I guess we currently just have very differing POVs about the show, so I don't think it'll converge at any one point haha. But it's okay, like I said in my PM as well, it is how you see it and I respect that.

But yeah, the main reason everything's so messed up now is because the point of Zoyaan was something else I believe, but it got cut short so it never reached that point. It is unfortunate, but I guess they had to do it because of industry pressures. In order to end the track, the makers had to make it seem like the track served some kind of purpose, so the lessons learnt as you said too, doesn't make proper sense. I admit I could just be trying to make sense out of nothing, but I guess I just did that partially for my own sake, to just let it all go now.

And I also admit that I feel a little bad that the makers had to change their storyline, because it must suck to have to change your entire vision of your story in such a short span of time because of ratings. I mean, the makers must be attached to the story, and they must've had some plans that got destroyed now. But since they're trying really hard to salvage it, I'm just gonna cut them some slack and let it be (:
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Because not everything is about what is said, sometimes it is about unsaid.

Lovely post. ⭐️
Edited by notagain - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: goingreen


Anu (: Yeah, I guess we currently just have very differing POVs about the show, so I don't think it'll converge at any one point haha. But it's okay, like I said in my PM as well, it is how you see it and I respect that.

But yeah, the main reason everything's so messed up now is because the point of Zoyaan was something else I believe, but it got cut short so it never reached that point. It is unfortunate, but I guess they had to do it because of industry pressures. In order to end the track, the makers had to make it seem like the track served some kind of purpose, so the lessons learnt as you said too, doesn't make proper sense. I admit I could just be trying to make sense out of nothing, but I guess I just did that partially for my own sake, to just let it all go now.

And I also admit that I feel a little bad that the makers had to change their storyline, because it must suck to have to change your entire vision of your story in such a short span of time because of ratings. I mean, the makers must be attached to the story, and they must've had some plans that got destroyed now. But since they're trying really hard to salvage it, I'm just gonna cut them some slack and let it be (:

I respect your opinion green and i am glad people are able to find positivity in all this just that as i told you it is a little too much for me
Actually i don't sympathize with the writers at all...they messed up big time...the original synopsis went out the window the moment zoya stepped in KV instead of SM...and after establishing asya they should have never thought of zoyaan cause IMO a girl tossing between two brothers is puke worthy🤢🤢
I actually think the way writers have been treating their story they hardly care about the story but the TRPS more
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Posted: 11 years ago
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great post...
true shows run on trps...and the channel has a major say on the tracks and if a track doesn't work with the audience it is changed...
I too expected a convo between them but then I m enjoying these light moments a lot too...but I didn't like Asad involving Ayaan in the celebrations...but then🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Seriously, this post is just SHEER BRILLIANCE!!
Thank you thank you thank you for making this. I couldn't have put it any better even if I tried, you seriously said it all.
Honestly, like you stated they talked it out several other occasions. At least they did that much here, unlike the Tanveer scenario. My only tiny issue is that they should clear the Tanveer thing now too, but I guess they don't want to even mention the snake and ruin their moods lol.
But in all seriousness, why do we even assume they haven't talked it out? Maybe they have, and we're just not shown that. Maybe the writers just want us to assume it's all settled.
You know I like how you brought up the sister and you fighting thing. With people who are really close to you and loved ones, sometimes you don't need to talk it out. Sometimes some things are better left pushed under the rug. Me and my brother have had some pretty bad moments, but then when we do start talking again, it happens naturally. No one discusses what happened before that. Even with my parents, when they fight, they don't talk, but then the next day or whenever, it's done and over with. My dad is asking my mom for dinner and they're watching t.v together. When you love someone that much, whatever grudges you have, whatever happened sometimes fades on its own. And loving someone that much also makes it easier to forgive. Asad and Zoya are a part of each other now. So much, that they are willing to do anything for the other. So much that Zoya said it herself that night in the garden. "It's true that I'm very angry with you, but it's also true that I can't live without you".
(But just to point out a little thing, I do think Asad's grudge is reasonable lol.)
But with Asad and Zoya, the situation was sad, and could have gone about other ways, but I don't think it was SOOO HORRIBLE that they hold it against each other. Both made mistakes.
Also, I just want to add one thing. At the end of the day, this is a fictional show. They are not going to show EVERYTHING as to how it would be done in real life. In real life, yes when certain situations happen, you should talk about it. Like I stated before, I think they should have talked about it when the Tanveer crap was going on. I felt like that was worse than this right now. But sadly, I've learned to let go, or assume it's already been taken care of.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah agreed
they dont need to and they dont want to👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant post 😊
totally agree wid u 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautifully put😊 u've given me a lot of food for thought😃

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