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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi.sweet

Asad Zoya and Ayan are considering it a forced marriage ,not invalid one,have cvs decided to move towards divorce?


I feel they are just showing what the characters perceive,...no one has an idea that the nikaah was invalid

If it weren't invalid, the CVs wouldn't have focused on the wrong name at the nikaah (Zoya Fareed)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi


Thanks Pri... my responses in green

Sangi...you are forgetting something major here...there is no logic here in QH...there has never been one...if there was no one would forget that Billo said she was married...she never had a divorce...and above all Billo would be showing her pregnancy bump...and there has been numerous loopholes and bloopers like this. The most important thing is in Gul's words QH is for masses and not classes. The trp viewers are not aware of the discrepancies in Zoya's name in the nikaah papers and they definitely don't discuss like we do. Gul can turn it around anyway she wants. My problem with this whole fiasco is that if Gul wasn't sure about this controversial track, she shouldn't have started it at all. She is validating the marriage because she wants to be safe in the radar of the trp aunties...she cannot play around with infedilty and adultery. There cannot be a divorce if the marriage is invalid. But now through the conversation it was clear that since they have signed papers the divorce would take time. If Gul really wanted to annul the nikaah why would she emphasize on this? Asad could have been shown finding it easily...right? The moment zoyaan signed the papers things got completed.
What I don't want to see is Zoya taking any kind of nonsense form anyone especially a criminal like Razia. Zoya doesn't owe anything to anyone...neither to the inhabitants of SM or KV. Dilshad has definitely abandoned her proving that she was not true to what she professed. Has she even informed her sister / BIL? Khan villa is not her home either. Her only place lies in NYC. But, unfortunately she cannot be shipped there either so right now the best option is for her to get financially independent and get a new start in her life. According to Gul, this story is not a story about Asya so bringing in a new man for Zoya will be the best option although I think it's not needed either.
Edited by Rupunzale - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
Awesome post Sangeeta 👏 loved the epi & your analysis 👍🏼 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Sangi...you are forgetting something major here...there is no logic here in QH...there has never been one...if there was no one would forget that Billo said she was married...she never had a divorce...and above all Billo would be showing her pregnancy bump...and there has been numerous loopholes and bloopers like this. The most important thing is in Gul's words QH is for masses and not classes. The trp viewers are not aware of the discrepancies in Zoya's name in the nikaah papers and they definitely don't discuss like we do. Gul can turn it around anyway she wants. My problem with this whole fiasco is that if Gul wasn't sure about this controversial track, she shouldn't have started it at all. She is validating the marriage because she wants to be safe in the reader of the trp aunties...she cannot play around with infedilty and adultery .


Yes, that's certainly possible and if that's the case, this would be the biggest loopholes of all because that name Zoya Fareed was pronounced at least twice during that nikaah ceremony

In fact, I feel just because the nikaah is invalid, no one will accuse them of adultery/infidelity later. Because if it were valid, then it would definitely invite a label of infidelity

@Rupanzale: There cannot be a divorce if the marriage is invalid. But now through the conversation it was clear that since they have signed papers the divorce would take time. If Gul really wanted to annul the nikaah why would she emphasize on this? Asad could have been shown finding it easily...right? The moment zoyaan signed the papers things got completed.
What I don't want to see is Zoya taking any kind of nonsense form anyone especially a criminal like Razia. Zoya doesn't owe anything to anyone...neither to the inhabitants of SM or KV. Dilshad has definitely abandoned her proving that she was not true to what she professed. Has she even informed her sister / BIL? Khan villa is not her home either. Her only place lies in NYC. But, unfortunately she cannot be shipped there either so right now the best option is for her to get financially independent and get a new start in her life. According to Gul, this story is not a story about Asya so bringing in a new man for Zoya will be the best option although I think it's not needed either.


All the characters think the nikaah was valid that's why they are talking about divorce and not annulment. Till someone like Asad or Razia (because I feel they are most motivated) go to that community hall and investigate the circumstances behind the nikaah or that real Zoya Fareed somehow shows up, everyone will think the nikaah was real. It's the parallel with Tanu's pregnancy. We, the audience knew she was bluffing but the characters all thought it was asad's baby.

IMO, Gul is playing the same game here. All the characters feel it's areal nikaah except the astute audience and later through flashbacks she will prove that the nikaah was indeed invalid

I won't say anything about Zoya going back to the US because we all know it's AsYa's love story (whether Gul admits it as one or not)
Edited by bheegi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My roller coaster ride with QH..er... in the dungeons... with trolls... without my Magic Wand...
Has definitely taught me many things.

Will my prediction be proved WRONG every freakin' time? Yes.

Should I EVER keep my hopes high? No.

Is optimism just a mere word in the QH universe? Yes.

Will anyone ever have a SUCCESSFUL marriage in the show? No.

Why an I still watching it? Because I like it.

Am I becoming a fat aunt? No. Not my fault that QH turned into a typical Zee Tv show.

Do I believe the ME has something good in store for me? Yes.

Why do I believe that? Because QH is unpredictable. Because CVs know that everyone's predicting the worse.

Is the Dream Sequence actually a Dream Sequence? No. I don't think so. I think Zoya's back home.

Am I being too optimistic? Yes.

Is it stupid to be? Utterly. Nincompoop!

Has QH made my thinking process a labyrinth? Definitely.

Do I tax my brain too much on a fictional show? Well, yeah. Sort of.

What do I do while watching QH? Laugh. Everyone needs a coping mechanism. Glad no one notices.

Do I really care about Asad znd Zoya getting together now? No. Because this is a FAMILY saga, not an entirely romantic one.

Is the director's approach right in dealing with the situation? No. There can definitely be many ways. Melancholy isn't necessary.

Tada! 🥱



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Sangeeta,

Awsome post and a very apt title.. I did comment last night on this post with a very lengthy comment but unfortunately, my network got disconnected .. so am replying again.. not sure if I can remember whatever I wrote earlier...😊

Originally posted by: bheegi

Hopes, Expectations, Promises & New Beginnings: Oct 11

Wonderful Title.. How do you think of this in such a short time ??

After a long time, it was an episode worth making a post on.

I had been checking out everyday for your post.. you know what.. you and Ankie and chicksoup are one among the best in your posts...Too good... ⭐️

Hopes: That will be shattered

Nikhat- After a whole year, has finally entered Haseena's house as a newlywed. As we all know, her hopes shall get shattered soon. Farhan seems reluctant to fulfill the role of a husband. Is he already married? Is he gay? Well, I guess time will tell us.

Nikhat's only motive was to get married.. The fear which Shireen had put in her heart and head that if HAseena's son's rishta is not accepted then she may end up in becoming a second wife etc.. has played too much on her.. This shows the parental upbringing difference between Dilshad and Shireen... Though both Nikhat and Najma have been protected by their brothers all these days.. It requires lot of courage for these girls to face the dirtiest challenges on their way.. Farhan.. for a moment felt he is gay .. but I think he is already married.. and the way Chand Bi and Haseena told dulhan ka kamra ready hai.. I think Nikhat will get a separate room .. What I felt not good on Nikhat's part was the way she looked up to Imran when Haseena pointed out Imran and Najma's room.. Agreed love is blind.. This girl was in love with Imran a lot but she had left her senses out when she agreed to marry his brother...

I seriously suspect could this be in the upcoming tracks become the clash for brothers... ??

Asad: After a long wait, is hopeful that he shall get reunited with Zoya but as we all know, this shall not happen that easily.

Asad -- the selfless soul.. I felt so sorry when he had all the hopes and the hidden smile as soon as Nikhat's marriage was performed.. He is still oblivious to the consequences of this.. Mr. Lion wake up.. Everything cannot be tackled easily.. You have to roar back sooner or later to get back your beloved and prove to the whole society that Zoya belongs only to Asad...

Humeira: Ayaan gave her the hope and reassurance today but how long will this last?

Humeira..will definately be disappointed...

Zoya: I almost cried in that scene when Zoya wanted to follow Asad as he walked out of the house. She was hopeful that soon after the nikaah, he would take her home. Out of all people, her hopes shall be shattered the most in the coming days.

Yes it was too emotional .. I also felt the same.. Agreed fearing Nikhat's wedding Ayaan had not disclosed the deal to anybody at home.. but just before Asad left, it would have been good if either she or Asad or even Ayaan had disclosed this to the entire family.. Wake up Zoya.. do not be blinded by all these.. She has to be her own self to give back everybody in SM... I hope we get to see our lioness back in action

Expectations: That shall not be met

Ayaan: He expects to take Zoya to her house' that night. Unfortunately, that old wound will decide to flare up just at the most inappropriate time. Is this muqaddar? Yes, it is but not because Zoyaan is meant to happen but because Zoya has to find her roots at the SM- that's what muqaddar wants.

Well.. I feel the daddy card still has a long way to come up.. Now that Zoya will stay back in SM, she might be taunted by flashing her snap with Asad etc.. I really hope Humeira stands up for Zoya and supports her telling that she knows about the deal etc...Also the delay will be only to prove that the nikaah was after all invalid sparing the second spouse night mare to ASYA and AYRA...

Promises: That shall be broken

Ayaan: Will break his promise to Asad, Zoya and Humeira

Ayaan is too good in breaking promises.. so no further expectations from him...

Asad: Will break his promise to Zoya

Yes... but he is always her protector.. still hopeful that he will help her out in time.. He mentioned that he had a discussion with maulvi.. and the Tanveer spoiler about disclosing Imran's child.. I think this is when he will get to know that the nikaah was invalid .. Zoya sacrificed the daddy truth to get back to Asad and now he will sacrfice Imran's truth to get revealed and get back his Zoya.. If not in the ME

New Beginnings:

Amongst all the above negativity, there are a few positives that herald a new beginning..

  1. Zoya's entry to SM has initiated the process of uniting the two families. Shireen thanked Asad and dadi, for the first time blessed her oldest grandson. The best part of her blessing was her dua for Asad. Just like Dilshaad blessed Zoya to get what she wants, dadi had the same blessing for Asad.
Yes Shireen did thank Asad but that idiot will forget all these soon and start her blame game again.. Hope Dadi and Dilshad's dua works in getting ASYA back.. The first thing Dilshad should do is fix up ASYA wedding immediately without waiting for anybody as soon as she is back..
  1. The two sisters, Najma and Nikhat shall finally bond as sisters/sisters in law but Haseena bi better watch out.

Yes really hoping these girls get together and teach the Quershi family a lesson.. HAseena's daag will become so big now that she cannot raise her voice against anybody hopefully..

Symbolic scenes:

  1. The gift scene: Just as Zoya is about to pass the gift to Asad, Ayaan comes and intercepts the gift. Therefore, just as Zoya is about to go back to Asad, Ayaan will create a situation that prevents that. Ayaan and Zoya then gifted the box as a couple to Nikhat. That means, they will have to maintain this faade of a couple for some more time. That doesn't mean, they will start having feelings for each other. That just shows they are trapped in this natak for a longer period. Asad gave a semi dirty look to Ayaan when he snatched the gift. Are we going to see the beginnings of the much awaited clash because of this delay?
Yes Zoya will have to stay back for few more days but the nikaah will be proved invalid and Asad will take her back from this jail.. Asad has to realize that he cannot become God.. enough of fathering his siblings...


  1. Haseena's statement: She talked about badhe log with daag on their daaman' What an irony- she is a woman who has choti soch' with her whole daman that is daagdaan' We will probably have a lot of scenes about daags in damans in coming episodes.

Tanveer and Imran's truth is only the beginning.. There are lot more hidden truth in that chota house which Haseen calls.. which will show the world whose daag is the most horrible...

It's a long road ahead, but eventually as we all know, good shall prevail over evil and true love shall prevail over the hypocrisies & rituals of the society. As I have said it many times before, just hang in there. The PH makes it a point to establish the OTPs in almost each episode, so let's not worry too much about changing affections.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi


I feel they are just showing what the characters perceive,...no one has an idea that the nikaah was invalid

If it weren't invalid, the CVs wouldn't have focused on the wrong name at the nikaah (Zoya Fareed)


Sangeeta.. this wrong name will definately pop up and prove that the nikaah was in fact invalid..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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great sangeeta dii...

agree wid u totlally..and it gives +ve hopes...ofcourse zoya will not go to khan villa soon as she should find out abt her abbu in SM
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant post!

The gift scene was symbolic for the much awaited Bro Clash. I hope it happens soon. The bro hugs are frustrating man!

I wonder if the hug's picture is gonna come out today when Ayaan is unconscious, meanwhile Tanveer plays her game and Asad stops the reunion, symbolic for his closing the door.

Do they have any plans to incorporate Eid-ul-Azha in the upcoming track? I hope they do, at least symbolically with all the sacrifices being rewarded.

Eventually by 29th I hope!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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My feeling is that ZoAyaan nikkah will be proved invalid and there will be no need for divorce . Humeira was very concerned that she will not be Ayaan's first wife and Zoya Asad's likewise . Invalid nikkah will set that right !

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