It's Complicated: Epi Sept 25 - Page 7

Originally posted by: bheegi

It's Complicated: Epi Sept 25

Relationships are complicated business. The only way to make them stronger and last longer is by following simple rules..

1. Unconditional love

2. Mutual respect

3. Mutual trust

4. Honesty

Once these rules are overlooked, it's very easy for relationships to get more and more complicated.

So, the Khan brothers feel there is a simple solution to this recent complication?

Ayaan: He has always been the impulsive one who takes short cuts as a solution to any given problem. He has a short fuse and can blow up anytime a situation gets out of hand. So, is being nave here? Does he really think that once Nikhat gets married, he can return his bhaijaan's amaanat without a hitch?

He has already broken the basic simple rules of a relationship. He has been dishonest with Zoya and has broken Humeira's trust.

Asad: In the heat of the moment, when he was emotionally overwhelmed, probably even guilt ridden (blamed himself for Nikhat's condition as Najma had just gotten married to Imran), he broke the simple rule of mutual respect in his relationship with Zoya. Granted, Zoya agreed for his happiness and for the sake of Nikhat's life (maybe partially guilty about the nikaah fiasco). Now, he is hanging onto hope and has been reassured by none other than Mr. over reliable, responsible Ayaan Ahmed Khan! At least, Asad has immense trust in Zoya that he has not gotten upset about the nikaah nor her running away from home. He has learnt to be optimistic from Zoya but will it be that simple Asad? Does he really think she will come back and run into his arms after he disrespected her relationship with him?

Zoya: The only one who knows this ain't going to be simple. A woman who has never shied from enacting a drama or doing a nautanki is dreading this naatak for the first time in her life. For her, it's not a simple act of playing marriage-marriage but a much bigger deal. That's why she wants to go back to her Mr.Khan ASAP. She knows that the longer she stays, things will just get more complicated. Her outburst at Ayaan was very much welcome and needed. Ayaan needed that lashing. What his brother couldn't do, Zoya did today. Zoya's self-respect as a woman has been deeply hurt by both brothers. Will she ever be able to forget what they have done with her?

So, I don't think things are going to be that simple. Gul has taken a plunge into this track and unless the TRPs really tank, she will play out the whole track as she had planned. What's the point of the twist then?

Future complications that I envision:

1. Humeira's health and her feelings

2. Gaffur/Razia torment Zoya

3. Badi Bi tries to bring Zoyaan closer

4. Shireen continues her self-centered behavior and makes Zoya participate in all rituals against her wishes

5. Rashid caught between Zoya and the rest of the family

6. Ayaan caught between Zoya and Humeira

7. Asad miserable without Zoya and helpless as he can't reach out or help her through this crisis.

8. Farhan, Imran reveals

9. Haseena bi's continuing torture and demands

10. Maybe Gaffur reveal (although I think this will happen later) The music box scene is a red herring. He will get called somewhere before he reaches Zoya's room.

Ultimately, of course Zoya will be back with Asad but not before a number of complicated tracks and paths...are you all ready for it?

Originally posted by: bheegi

well Pri, my POV is a bit different here. To me it has always been Asya as the end game. All the symbolisms have always pointed to Asya. Zoyaan has always been a means towards the endgame. Zoyaan could stretch for sometime but I don't think this is Zoyaan and Zoya's story. I have watched all the episodes and continue to do so.

As far as Asad is concerned, he is a flawed character who learns from his mistakes. He has come a long way and after this incident, will learn to respect Zoya and her wishes too...he is just a slow learner and an emotional fool.

Agree that he is a flawed character...no one is perfect...we all have flaws but we don't trade our loved ones...the fact is he placed her as a pawn and it's unforgivable...Zoya in her very words to Ayaan did confirm today that both the men used her as a pawn...it was actually a modern day Mahabharata...it was shameful. I don't hold Ayaan accountable because he is not the man Zoya trusted and loved...it was Asad. He betrayed her trust. A relationship builds on trust and he has failed her repeatedly. I thought he had already learned to respect her...didn't she rejected his Tanu's offer to know who her dad is to save her...what does Zoya really have to do to get his respect ?

now this is called a mind blasting superb post👏 i m not able to digest asad's character he is too emotional for his step bro n sis then his own family

Originally posted by: Punjabdikuri

Hey bheegi. I'm new to this forum but I have been reading your stories. You are doing a commendable job. About the new direction in qh I just want to say that if this story drags for more than a month then I think the viewers will be happy watching the previous scenes than the correct track. The future does look bleak.
Why would I not watch zoyayan track, coz it does not make sense. It started as a mistake which was compounded by helpless situation. I understand this but I did not like the liberties that were taken in portraying this. Either all the characters have left their senses at the same time or the cv team thinks that our patience is like Pacific Ocean which can be filled will all the garbage and still not fill up an inch. Every now and then they will show us asya moments in flash back to keep us on tether but never letting loose. See my take is that once when we will all start accepting this track and lulled by the story they will start growing things like gafoor father, razia murdrer, tanveer either loosing her child or killing somebody and going to jail with her child being raised by najma, shireen and dilshad showdown etc etc. Then the cV team will decide whether to show zoya with asad or Ayaan.
I'm giving them 2 more weeks to clear this mess and give some direction or else I walk off. This my choice after all.
I cannot pretend to be brain dead for more than that.

Originally posted by: bheegi

It's Complicated: Epi Sept 25

Relationships are complicated business. The only way to make them stronger and last longer is by following simple rules..

1. Unconditional love

2. Mutual respect

3. Mutual trust

4. Honesty

Once these rules are overlooked, it's very easy for relationships to get more and more complicated.

So, the Khan brothers feel there is a simple solution to this recent complication?

Ayaan: He has always been the impulsive one who takes short cuts as a solution to any given problem. He has a short fuse and can blow up anytime a situation gets out of hand. So, is being nave here? Does he really think that once Nikhat gets married, he can return his bhaijaan's amaanat without a hitch?

He has already broken the basic simple rules of a relationship. He has been dishonest with Zoya and has broken Humeira's trust.

Asad: In the heat of the moment, when he was emotionally overwhelmed, probably even guilt ridden (blamed himself for Nikhat's condition as Najma had just gotten married to Imran), he broke the simple rule of mutual respect in his relationship with Zoya. Granted, Zoya agreed for his happiness and for the sake of Nikhat's life (maybe partially guilty about the nikaah fiasco). Now, he is hanging onto hope and has been reassured by none other than Mr. over reliable, responsible Ayaan Ahmed Khan! At least, Asad has immense trust in Zoya that he has not gotten upset about the nikaah nor her running away from home. He has learnt to be optimistic from Zoya but will it be that simple Asad? Does he really think she will come back and run into his arms after he disrespected her relationship with him?

Zoya: The only one who knows this ain't going to be simple. A woman who has never shied from enacting a drama or doing a nautanki is dreading this naatak for the first time in her life. For her, it's not a simple act of playing marriage-marriage but a much bigger deal. That's why she wants to go back to her Mr.Khan ASAP. She knows that the longer she stays, things will just get more complicated. Her outburst at Ayaan was very much welcome and needed. Ayaan needed that lashing. What his brother couldn't do, Zoya did today. Zoya's self-respect as a woman has been deeply hurt by both brothers. Will she ever be able to forget what they have done with her?

Originally posted by: bheegi

It's Complicated: Epi Sept 25

Relationships are complicated business.

The khan brothers make it more complicated by first not accepting their love, then not marrying them given the first chance and finally not respecting them.

The only way to make them stronger and last longer is by following simple rules..

1. Unconditional love

2. Mutual respect

3. Mutual trust

4. Honesty

Once these rules are overlooked, it's very easy for relationships to get more and more complicated.

Glad you said "more complicated" and not broken. Maybe the parallel dance sequence was to establish the fact that these two pairs can never be broken or mixed.

So, the Khan brothers feel there is a simple solution to this recent complication?

Ayaan: He has always been the impulsive one who takes short cuts as a solution to any given problem. He has a short fuse and can blow up anytime a situation gets out of hand. So, is being nave here? Does he really think that once Nikhat gets married, he can return his bhaijaan's amaanat without a hitch?

He has already broken the basic simple rules of a relationship. He has been dishonest with Zoya and has broken Humeira's trust.

Zoya we know will face this bravely and give tit for tat, but Humeira, he has broken more than trust, he has literally broken her. Will she be able to gather the pieces and begin or will she hide under the garb of Rajini. (strong feeling this is going to happen - happy in the promo)

Asad: In the heat of the moment, when he was emotionally overwhelmed, probably even guilt ridden (blamed himself for Nikhat's condition as Najma had just gotten married to Imran), he broke the simple rule of mutual respect in his relationship with Zoya. Granted, Zoya agreed for his happiness and for the sake of Nikhat's life (maybe partially guilty about the nikaah fiasco). Now, he is hanging onto hope and has been reassured by none other than Mr. over reliable, responsible Ayaan Ahmed Khan! At least, Asad has immense trust in Zoya that he has not gotten upset about the nikaah nor her running away from home. He has learnt to be optimistic from Zoya but will it be that simple Asad? Does he really think she will come back and run into his arms after he disrespected her relationship with him?

No, she shouldn't. Asad has to do a lot of papad belna for sure.

Zoya: The only one who knows this ain't going to be simple. A woman who has never shied from enacting a drama or doing a nautanki is dreading this naatak for the first time in her life. For her, it's not a simple act of playing marriage-marriage but a much bigger deal. That's why she wants to go back to her Mr.Khan ASAP. She knows that the longer she stays, things will just get more complicated. Her outburst at Ayaan was very much welcome and needed. Ayaan needed that lashing. What his brother couldn't do, Zoya did today. Zoya's self-respect as a woman has been deeply hurt by both brothers. Will she ever be able to forget what they have done with her?

She may forgive in the long run (or short run) but never forget. I think this may play out when Zoya wants to make some sacrifice for Humeira without Asad's agreement.

So, I don't think things are going to be that simple. Gul has taken a plunge into this track and unless the TRPs really tank, she will play out the whole track as she had planned. What's the point of the twist then?

When were things simple in QH. I too sincerely hope she plays this out irrespective of the TRPs. That was one hell of a risk she took at the current stage.

Future complications that I envision:

1. Humeira's health and her feelings

2. Gaffur/Razia torment Zoya

3. Badi Bi tries to bring Zoyaan closer

4. Shireen continues her self-centered behavior and makes Zoya participate in all rituals against her wishes

5. Rashid caught between Zoya and the rest of the family

6. Ayaan caught between Zoya and Humeira

7. Asad miserable without Zoya and helpless as he can't reach out or help her through this crisis.

8. Farhan, Imran reveals

9. Haseena bi's continuing torture and demands

10. Maybe Gaffur reveal (although I think this will happen later) The music box scene is a red herring. He will get called somewhere before he reaches Zoya's room.

Ultimately, of course Zoya will be back with Asad but not before a number of complicated tracks and paths...are you all ready for it?

Originally posted by: webuser7

Sangeeta, another great post!

I'd like to add a 5th one - the one I keep harping about which is sorely missing in the show:

5. Communication

If Asad had talked to Zoya, she would not have felt so disrespected and violated. Yes violated is a harsh word, but she was violated. No one gave her an explanation.

If Ayaan had talked to everyone at SM, including Ghaziya, they would help them with the temporary track. No one would push the unwilling couple together and all could put a facade for the world. (Which still makes no sense. What after Nikhat's wedding?) Similarly, why are Ghaziya not mentioning the talaknama? They can see both don't want to be married!

If the talaknama is for 3 months but everyone is OK with divorce (as they think Nikaah is valid), why wait 3 months? Draw up new papers or Ayaan says Talak after Nikhat's Nikaah. What else were they planning to do? Just drop off Zoya and say Thanks! When Zoya gets the miserable 15k (if I remember correctly) meher, she should ask Ayaan to give it to Asad for services rendered!

As angry as Zoya is with Asad, she still wants to return to him. She will be upset but not unwilling to return. The realist in me loved that they showed the selfishness in Asad and Zoyaa and the fact that they are NOT considering sacrificing their love. Not yet, anyway!! 😉 Asad still wants her back. That to me is a more normal reaction. Although he probably hasn't considered that she will be "Talak shuda".

I doubt Ghafoor will try to torment Zoya. He will at some level connect with her. What if he finds out who she is but she doesn't? Perhaps there will be a partial reveal? 😉

Originally posted by: gossipgirlxoxo

Very complicated post but very easily mil gayi Abhi.

You are right , She will not change the track and she should not change the track.

Seriously in real life nothing is black and white.

It's all grey. Your choices are not between good and evil.that would be easy

It's between grey and grey . There is no right way or wrong way it's sometimes the only way.

But the drama will be interesting. Once the dust settles.

Karan's role should be substantial ... What will he do ? He would go after some raaz or something ...?? He can't do FB scenes only !

Nice post . I loved the mangalpur one also.

Originally posted by: qhid

great post bheegi, I didn't watch the whole episode today, couldn't sit through... the minute KSG was crying again, I turned off...

But I disagree on one point you've made here... don't think any relationship is really unconditional really except a parent-child (usually mother-child)...once you have expectations from any relationship then it automatically ceases to be unconditional...IMO...

And I don't think any relationship is to be unconditional to be uncomplicated.We all have opinions that are different- though you are on the same team, you tend to clash...not every time can you have a consensus...and that can complicate things.

In this story😕 which is very complicated already...they could do nothing further and I'd still not understand. The performance is good and so I'm still watching. And strangely so started watching again during the time of the twist...I wouldn't know how to complicate it further...

I still can't get over the fact that marriages can be accidental, Las Vegas and alcohol yes I'll buy but this track is just not that...anyways...its a drama series and I'll take whatever because you can always forward...or not watch..

When ayaan who is a great actor, was saying "Bhai it was an accident"...it was with such conviction her said that and yet...I didn't buy it..because in my head it can't be...it's too unreal...

I mean it's not a rajnikanth movie where from the beginning your mind is set up for cinematic liberty...he can boomerang bullets, go against gravity and quantum mechanics...but the whole framework is set up for that...Ekta Kapoor does the Rajini thing..she sets you up for full on fiction,I mean like full on ridiculousness...but the audience is prepped...