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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes


In that case, I am sorry..but Zoya has no self respect and no relationship in the real world survives like this...she deserves to be where she is..and u did not answer my question Sowmy...I am asking you as a friend..will u allow your man to give u away temporarily to his brother...yes or no? Whatever the situation...since u believe that AsYa's true love is shown by this act...I want to know what u think of it at a personal level😊

when im taking this in personal level as u say!
cnsider im zoya!
then im the one who first got involved in all this!
by running off from a nikaah and landing in such a situation tht noone can help me this time!
so instead of waiting for some help
im just accepting the situation here!
because of me going away from my own marriage these all things happnd so ill take the responcibility of the situation!
ill be strong!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: sujataraje

and on top of that asad's stand is not clear...that he wants to take it as real and forever orsome temporary arrangement for nikhat ..
and if gul is so true to her story..let her show zoyaan falling in love...and people accepting it in the name of drama and story...if she does not show it..it means she is not following her story ..and if she shows it it means she is butchering characters...atleast zoya might fall in love again just because she might start taking marriage as real...but as well know asya are end game..but ayaan...after falling in love with humeira then again falling in love with zoya and then again going back to humeria because zoya says no to him after marriage gets dissolve...wow what a wonderful story.. i am dumb and dense to not to understand this..my fault



res

will comment in detail later...gotta go now..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Gazala1

The forum orthodox??

The way I see it, it is Gul's characters that are orthodox. Fixing marriages for all the wrong reasons, talks of tehzeeb, dress codes for women, and the ultimate one..taking life changing decisions on behalf of your fiance without her consent..this is what is orthodox thinking.

The forum, largely comprises of upright, progressive women who can thankfully tell right from wrong.The few who can't are IMO the orthodox ones😃
The uprising on the forum is because the UN-orthodox ones can't bear to see the wrongful acts carried out by the characters.

Personally I have nothing against Zoyaan, though I am an Asya shipper, the pair is of little importance, it's the route they've taken to establish the pairing that stinks.


im sorry to zsk u but do u belong to india?
if u do u shld have understood the situation completely!
people in india r like the ones in the show except for zoya!
and if u see indian life u can understand how such kind of situations occur because of the communication gap between zoya and the others!
and im completely unorthodox even though i belong to a very orthodox family if u must know and i face the same problems!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: sowmy18


firstly i dont understand why noone is understanding asad's point of view in all this! I am trying ...but I am not understanding how he is correct to use emotional and physical form of abuse to force his fiance to sign the marriage documents (real/unreal I don't care). How is he correct to force her to co-habit with his own brother against her wish or without asking her what her wish is?
if zoya would have told him where she was going or atleast when he called her!
she never trusted him! Wow...so putting your life in danger, to save his sister from a disastrous marriage shows that u don't trust him? When he called her, she was too busy saving her life, from what I remember. Even she at that point of time had not registered the fact that she was sitting down for a nikaah ceremony. But her fault is that she is taking this treatment metted out to her without opening her mouth, when she was pouting heavy dialogues about woman's liberations and choices only a few weeks ago.
and now the situation is so out of his control tht even if he wants to save zoya from all this he couldn't! Well...instead of dragging her all the way to SM, he could have paused to ask both Ayaan and Zoya what and how everything happened.
and as far as ayaanis concerned he's just feeling guilty for whatever is happning or happnd!
and he's just thinking tht worst has happnd!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: sowmy18

when im taking this in personal level as u say!
cnsider im zoya!
then im the one who first got involved in all this!
by running off from a nikaah and landing in such a situation tht noone can help me this time!
so instead of waiting for some help
im just accepting the situation here!
because of me going away from my own marriage these all things happnd so ill take the responcibility of the situation!
ill be strong!


So in that case..our basic thinking differs...I will not accept to be living with my brother in law temporarily and then move in with the elder brother..It will leave a trauma on my psyche...I will never be able to get over the fact that my would be husband sacrificed me like a goat...even if I have committed the biggest mistake...I will stand up to that man and move out of the relationship without having to share a room with my future brother in law...I will walk out with my head held high and my dignity intact...because the man I was planning to marry cannot protect me...and I don't need him too anymore...that is my definition of being strong...and that is my real problem with this story...I do not identify with it...

And I believe I am a progressive thinking woman because I do not need to be the sacrificial lamb...whatever sin I have committed..no one else can tell me who to get married to...not even my parents...and I don't think that makes me orthodox...it makes me independent and self confident...I do not need a man to make me stay in his brother's room...I will kick him and ask him to get lost

And Nikhat did not commit suicide because Zoya ran off...and as I said..there are no accidental Nikah's in Islam
Edited by starsinmyeyes - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: sowmy18


im sorry to zsk u but do u belong to india?
if u do u shld have understood the situation completely!
people in india r like the ones in the show except for zoya!
and if u see indian life u can understand how such kind of situations occur because of the communication gap between zoya and the others!
and im completely unorthodox even though i belong to a very orthodox family if u must know and i face the same problems!



I am an Indian, a hard core Mumbaikar and I work with organizations that help girls like Zoya who run away from forced marriages😃
Edited by Gazala1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: sowmy18


im sorry to zsk u but do u belong to india?
if u do u shld have understood the situation completely!
people in india r like the ones in the show except for zoya!
and if u see indian life u can understand how such kind of situations occur because of the communication gap between zoya and the others!
and im completely unorthodox even though i belong to a very orthodox family if u must know and i face the same problems!


People in India are not like this...please Sowmy..I would suggest stop stereotyping this country...no situation like this..ever...occurs in real life...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: ..preethi..


i knw wat i said ..i knw wat u r telling .. honestly i dont belive n second marrg u marry 1 person & he is ur husband for the whole life time!u & i knw tat itz a fake marrg but for socity tey will c zoya 1ly to b ayans wife.. she s asad's brother in laws wife now asad marrd her! will any 1 marry 1ce brother in law's wife?

see this is what is called orthodox!
giving importance to society than ur own self and heart!
who cares about society?
if we take the case of qh
anyway society is always rude to the kv family!
dilshadchodihuyi aurat!
zoya-who is an orphan with nobody! or after knowing the fathers truth a naajayez beti!
anyhow those who want to talk will talk and those who understand will understand!
tht's how life works!
and if we take asad's case what will society say?
he cheayed zoya on the day of marriage and spent the night with another woman!
if we really have to talk about this we can talk for ages!
but i dont give a f**k to society!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
People having different opinions from yours doesn't make them orthodox or dense or bubbled-up teenagers.

Gul never set up the platform for Zoyaan. A few catch-and-falls isn't how you do it. This track has been shoved down our throats and how...

After all the messages imparting social awareness, they show a girl being treated as a commodity. What's worse, it's her lover doing it and what's even more worse is that her all-efficient vocal chords suddenly stop functioning.

Religious personalities are shown disrespecting religion. Forced marriages and contract marriages, both are forbidden in Islam.

It's been only one month of getting rid of stone-eyes and humbistaring... but lo and behold! The Niagra falls of tears comes again and evil, thou art all-mighty!

And now they're suddenly not sure whether the TRP audience will accept this Lionshit so they dangle the AsYa carrot in between. Oh please 4Lions, you can't have it both ways. Have the balls to continue with something you have already started.

Gul has turned into a wanna-be Ekta. TRPs ke liye kuch bhi.

Too bad if the TRP audience ditches her. I'll be having the last laugh then.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes


People in India are not like this...please Sowmy..I would suggest stop stereotyping this country...no situation like this..ever...occurs in real life...

again we r back to square one!
people give somuch importance to marriage here!
tht is what is the main problem!
instead of knowing what marriage means they just think tht once she got married she has to be with him forever!

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