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Posted: 12 years ago
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ok so on to the next one...
3. Thinking vs. Feeling: this is how one deals with issues. it can be anything. doesn't have to be personal issue. this is heart vs. head factor. common misconception regarding the thinking person is that they don't "have feelings". not true. it's more that logic rules for the thinkers. since feelers are constantly examining their's and other's feelings/personal viewpoints, they are more intuned to them. thinkers on the other hand, though have strong feelings, are not able to express them as easily. and it bursts out in full force when pressured.
asad is thinking while zoya is feeling.
asad primarily deals with issues with logic. zoya's leaving? ok what steps do i need to take to stop that? he doesn't stop and examine why he feels he need to stop zoya. he'll cry behind closed door as mr. bhatwadekar (?) is taking away his zoya but won't come out and stop. he hurts zoya all the time with his rudeness but is not intuned to the hurt he's causing. and even when he realizes, it's contained in himself until the outburst like the airport scene or the jungle scene.
zoya is a feeler. she's constantly having those little talks with herself about why she's feeling the way she is. like in today's epi, she's wonderig why another fake engagement is not bothering her. and all of her question/answering session is emotion related. she's also very perceptive of other's feelings, including asad. it was easier for her to forgive asad after akram fiasco then or asad to forgive himsef.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful! I wish the PH saw this and used it in developing Asya characters for the future - how they complement/complete each other...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks for putting this up at my request. REally appreciate!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It was interesting to read this as I thought it was the other way round. I think Asad always looks for facts first before making decisions,unlike Zoya who goes by her gut feeling. I am no expert, so my take was more personal, and you put things ina different perspective... Which is great!

I will tell you why I thought what I thought though.

Zoya ran out of her wedding because something didn't feel right! Zoya, sided with Rashid because she felt *the love*. With Mariam, too. She always goes by the way she feels.

Asad on the other hand looks for proofs as validations. Went to the airport after it was validated that Zoya is innocent, not in response to his gut feeling. Sides with Tanveer because he feels ki wo use bachpan se jaanta hai (which we know is not true). Goes by past facts. Thinks Tanveer is sick because Ammi is sick... not true again, as Ammi is not sick in the first place. In Mangalpur, when the one eyed guy first offered to help them Zoya suggested it does not feel right, but he ignored her worries. He only realized that she was right, after he found the dead body.

But, I was wrong, he he. :). You explain the real theories.

Originally posted by: rutu83

Thanks for all the comments🤗

Here's the next trait/factor'

2. Intuitive vs. Sensing: this is how we capture information. While there's multitude of facets that determine this, simply stating intuitive people go by their gut instincts while the sensing people go by what they gathered through their 5 senses.

Asad is intuitive while I think Zoya is sensing. This is the toughest one to pin down for AsYa for me.

Asad is intuitive. I think. I lean more towards this because of the Mangalpur incident. Going back and finding Zoya in jungle, unmarked landscape, would have been very tough/near impossible for a sensing person. He's head over heels for Zoya (you are, Asad, you are 😉)eventhough she all but offends his external outlook. But there are so many instances, like when he believed Akram, where he goes against his instincts and by the outside information he received. But I think this is more the product of his traditional upbringing/outlook. He's suppressing his intuitive side here.

Zoya I'm more sure about. Sensing people enjoy and take their clues from their external environment. They love to do everything that pleases their 5 senses. They love to eat (pizza and coke), listen to music (ipad and mp3) and more open to touches (ie hugs and kisses). they also tend to be sentimental about those special things in their life. ex. mother's earring and father's music box (asad on the other hand didn't care much about the lion mask that blew away.) they're just more open to the world outside. But Zoya also goes by her instincts. She ran out during her nikaah going by her guts.

So'like I said, tough to pin down this one. What do you think?

I'll have the other two up soon as well '

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: forumfanhain

It was interesting to read this as I thought it was the other way round. I think Asad always looks for facts first before making decisions,unlike Zoya who goes by her gut feeling. I am no expert, so my take was more personal, and you put things ina different perspective... Which is great!

I will tell you why I thought what I thought though.

Zoya ran out of her wedding because something didn't feel right! Zoya, sided with Rashid because she felt *the love*. With Mariam, too. She always goes by the way she feels.

Asad on the other hand looks for proofs as validations. Went to the airport after it was validated that Zoya is innocent, not in response to his gut feeling. Sides with Tanveer because he feels ki wo use bachpan se jaanta hai (which we know is not true). Goes by past facts. Thinks Tanveer is sick because Ammi is sick... not true again, as Ammi is not sick in the first place. In Mangalpur, when the one eyed guy first offered to help them Zoya suggested it does not feel right, but he ignored her worries. He only realized that she was right, after he found the dead body.

But, I was wrong, he he. :). You explain the real theories.

yes- that's precisely why it was difficult to pin down this factor for them. i kept going back and forth for asad. see other behaviors also show him as sensing. he's very responsible. he's also there for his whole family. which is a very strong trait of a sensing. another example- reading his book. most intuitives are too impatient to actually stay with another's writing long enough to actually finish a book. they usually read the ending and move on. but on the other side, he's not truly reading the book. he's always distracted when reading the book. so that's an intuitive behaviour. see...i kept see-sawing between the two for him.
zoya was easier. her overall behavior is of a sensing person. everyone has both factors present. it's just that one is superior while the other is inferior. zoya's sensing is a superior function while intuitive side of hers is inferior. but it's developed enough that she's comfortable with it. it could be because of her feelings function or her free-to-be upbringing.
sigh...like i said tough to pin them down.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: forumfanhain

Beautiful! I wish the PH saw this and used it in developing Asya characters for the future - how they complement/complete each other...

thanks!
that's a high praise ☺️🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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the last factor:
4. Judging vs. Perceiving
This is how we approach life. simply put whether we want structure or open way of life. the nomenclaure is bit misleading. judging has nothing to do with being judgemental. nor are they necessarily stick to that one decision and never budge types. judging people are happier when decisions are made while perceiving people have "what if it's not the right one?" viewpoint. so when deciding to go out for lunch, the judging people would decide and say let's go for dosa while the perceiving is still wondering if that's the right choice or should they have gone for chole bhature...😉😃
asad is definitely judging and so is zoya. this is the only factor where they are alike.
i don't really need talk about how asad wants structure in life. everything about asad screams judging. he makes those decisions and carries through. like deciding to stop zoya.
while at first glance, it may look like zoya is perceiving, she's not. she made the decision to find her abbu. she made the decision to not leave asad even though he couln't voice it. she made the decision to investigate phuphi's shooter. she makes decisions and does not question the alternatives. simple as that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Talking about books, not sure, if it was a blooper or not,but Asad almost reads a new book every night :).

Thanks for the further explanation! Love reading your thoughts

Originally posted by: rutu83

yes- that's precisely why it was difficult to pin down this factor for them. i kept going back and forth for asad. see other behaviors also show him as sensing. he's very responsible. he's also there for his whole family. which is a very strong trait of a sensing. another example- reading his book. most intuitives are too impatient to actually stay with another's writing long enough to actually finish a book. they usually read the ending and move on. but on the other side, he's not truly reading the book. he's always distracted when reading the book. so that's an intuitive behaviour. see...i kept see-sawing between the two for him.
zoya was easier. her overall behavior is of a sensing person. everyone has both factors present. it's just that one is superior while the other is inferior. zoya's sensing is a superior function while intuitive side of hers is inferior. but it's developed enough that she's comfortable with it. it could be because of her feelings function or her free-to-be upbringing.
sigh...like i said tough to pin them down.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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ah see different books- that further cements the intuitive function being superior for asad. like i said, most intuitives can't stick with another's writing for long.
thanks! and thank you for prompting me to do it. it was a lot fun 😃

Originally posted by: forumfanhain

Talking about books, not sure, if it was a blooper or not,but Asad almost reads a new book every night :).

Thanks for the further explanation! Love reading your thoughts

Edited by rutu83 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Rutu - you here? 🤗 Me too - generally just a stalker but had to come out for this one.


You used Myers'-Briggs on Asad-Zoya!?! 🤣 🤣🤣

<Wiping tears of laughter> Didn't know you were a psych student - me too - a psych grad. High-five!

Just read the Introvert-extrovert update - spot on. Good going my friend.

I may be back to edit after reading the others...if work does not hijack me away from here...


Edited (and hopefully i can finish before i do really have to leave for work):
Rutu - i think you were spot-on for all 4 traits. Zoya is obvious and easy to do. Asad is way more difficult but easier to see if you put the whole together: Introvert - Intuitive - Thinking - Judging. The traits hang together, and Asad is a study-book case in point.

I think you were struggling the most with intuitive vs sensing. Well, like you said, we all have both, its just a question of which one is more dominant. And the flip side is, and what psych books conveniently neglect to tell us: the dominance changes, the dominance can be due to circumstances/upbringing/inherent personality (and hence the reason for it "changing").

Take the example of Asad going after Zoya to stop her from leaving. On the face of it, he didn't believe her and let her go. Then why did he find it so very easy to believe that she was innocent? And what was the proof? A video of her chatting with his brother. Ummm - sorry, that would not count as proof for a thinking and judging person you know (the video could be doctored, so what if she said all that - she could still have had another motive, etc etc etc). He believed - because he intuitively knew her to be innocent and just wanted an external excuse to hang on as a reason.

This would turn into a fascinating convo but real life is calling and i gotta run 😭.

Edited by kdsubs - 12 years ago

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