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Posted: 12 years ago
#41
I just love the way he apologised ad was concerned for her hand
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
Originally posted by Laila2009

Originally posted by crazy4KASH_AR


U know I was just trying to understand what upset u guys so much by Zoya's forgiveness.I didn't mean to question ur opinions.You have sole right to not take things as soon and appreciations are always subjective.Isn't it?
I don't ask you to change ur opinions or praise something which you can't.
Regarding the optimism,I was just trying to say that I'm glad that the negativity which u guys held towards the slap is slowly changing its direction.
I never said that u guys are making the forum negative or something.I simply get put off when members start to bash each other and get into personal attacks.I was unhappy that this whole slap issue was turning the forum negative and now this redemption is slowly cooling down the forum.
I request you not to take this post of mine in a negative manner.
Trust me,I really loved what u have written here dear.
Take care!



We still haven't changed our opinion there. We have not changed our opinion there at all. I stand by every post and letter I wrote regarding the matter and so do many others on this thread. You and I still hold polar opposite views on that matter and that will remain forever. And please do not try to work at getting this post closed by bringing up this topic. And because you are so unhappy with it, we cannot even mention the word anymore because it bothers your personal sentiments. It was never negative to us to discuss the matter...even though we were the ones who were repeatedly bashed😕so please do not try to pretend that we do not know where you are going with your comments.

What we are discussing is that the redemption track was portrayed in a decent manner today. I wrote this post because I wanted to point out what was done right and what still needs to be done in order for it to be a success - it's not close to it at all and we are far from content - at least I am. Have a good day...

And might I add more here..since I am name dropping...my good friend's (and he is an amazing writer himself) aunt is Isabella Allende (House ofSpiritsauthor), my other friend is had two mentors whom she introduced me too - one is Fay Weldon (author of She Devil) and the other one of the top professors in medieval literature at Harvard...and that's just to name a few...😉and the list goes on...even my secretary is a writer and Tyler Perry (Madea) likes her work...so please...when it comes to writers, I have plenty to compare.😆


Asma,we always seem to get back to square one..lol..Us being against the issue..(dnt wanna say the word) was not a negative move on our part as we did not see the incident justified in anyway as it morally or in anyway was not demed fit and we still stand by that statement...so the quetsion of us being negative should not even arise as, how can being against physical violence of any form be negative?
Isn't condoning violence and trying to justify it, negative in any way? I just find some of your statements..no offence, but very contradicting!
Your arguement is... the action was justified as it was on impulse regading and taking circumstances into consideration and our's is that this sort of action was just not required even if bearing in mind the whole given circumstance as this sort of act can only be justifiable if in self defense.Anyway...I agree with Laila here,that the redemtion track was portrayed in the right manner,hopefully it carries on to a fully blown redemtion from Asad as it really is needed if we are to full fledgedly and whole heartedly are to get into the crux of the love story and indulge fully and ejoy the moments of bliss from ASya.
Asma one other thing dear, we dnt always say bad things you know!We do like to point out the good too and what is right for the show and it's viewers but like everone else, we have the right to voice our conerns too, as it cnt always be about drooling and ooohhing and aahhing over ASya though, can it...realistically speaking?
Also Asma you know that there was alot of bashing going on towards us with numerous posts being opened to mock and taunt us through instilling lame,petty,sick,twisted humour,which not only ridiculed us ,but women in general, and you know that all this was directed in our direction!This was deemed funny by quite a majority, including yourself too,so you now, tell me ASma...was this not negativity of any form?
Mkaing such vicious low,petty attacks in the name of humour on a personal level is bullying in my books and negative in every way!



Edited by shaz2009 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
Laila...great job dear...you have spoken for all of us!Was thinking of opening a thread on this yesterday but glad i did not as couldn't have done it as well this!👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
I would like to think Gul had this planned But all things considered it probably got upped because of the outrage. 😉

I've said it before, i'll say it again.

They're not in love.

They're not falling in love.

They're barely friends.

From that stand point, i think the redemption is well placed and timed. As far as Asad-Zoya are concerned, I'm buying what they're showing except for a poor bit of screenplay every now and then.

As for the whole mystery- it better be good and live up to the hype. Fingers crossed Gul has something up her sleeves.

I think Ayaan-Zoya has been scrapped. Or it should be. Not because I'm overly involved with Asya. But i think it would put a damper on the quality of show.

And the sole reason for that is - Rishab.

He can't act. And to give him more screen time would be detrimental for QH. Yes his cute moments with Humeira are nice fillers but anything more and it would be torture.

As a PH, i'm sure 4lions knows the shortcomings of Rishab and unless we have a change of actors, I really hope Ayaan-Zoya doesn't come into play.

I think it would involve a lot of complex emotions, especially if it's a forced/circumstantial marriage/whatever.

I think it's a safe bet that that track has been scrapped. And these things happen it's all about improvising and so far QH has delivered enough for me to stick on to it.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: shaz2009




<font color="#990099">Asma,we always seem to get back to square one..lol..Us being against theissue..(dnt wanna say the word) was not a negative move on our part as we did not see theincident justified in anyway as it morally or in anyway wasnot demed fit and we still stand by that statement...so the quetsion of us being negativeshould not even arise as,howcan being against physical violence of any form be negative?

Isn't condoning violence and trying to justify it, negative in any way? I just find some of your statements..no offence, but very contradicting!
Your arguement is... the action was justified as it was on impulse regading andtaking circumstances into consideration and our's is that this sort of action was just not required even if bearing in mind the whole given circumstance as this sort of act can only be justifiable if in self defense.Anyway...I agree with Laila here,that the redemtion track was portrayed in the right manner,hopefully it carries on to a fully blown redemtion from Asad as it really is needed if we are to full fledgedly and whole heartedly are toget into the crux of the love storyand indulge fully and ejoy the moments of bliss from ASya.
Asma one other thing dear,we dnt always say bad thingsyou know!We do like to point out the good too and what is right for the show and it's viewrs but like evrone else we havethe right tovoice our conerns too, as it cnt always be about drooling and ooohhing and aahhing over ASya,though can it...realistically speaking?
Also Asma you know that there was alot of bashing going on towards us with numerous posts being opened to mock and taunt us through instilling lame,petty,sick,twisted humour,which jot only ridiculed us but women in general and you know that all this was directed in our direction...this was deemed funny by quite a majority, including yourself too,so you now tell me ASma...was this not negativity of any form?
Mkaing such vicious low,petty attacks in the name of humour on a personal level is bullying in my books!
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I understand ur POV dear.
You see one can't clap with a single hand.So u can't say that people who didn't support the slap were at the suffering end only.I've seen people bashing each other from both sides.And this negativity on the forum was really not acceptable to me.
I've never said u guys tried to spread any sort of negativity.All my fault was that I mentioned that I'm feeling nice to see some positive vibes coming from Laila's side regarding this issue.Plz tell me what crime did I commit by saying so.
I was really happy with this post of Laila and I just wanted to appreciate this effort of hers.I'm really sad and disappointed to see that my intentions are being moulded and taken up in the wrong direction.
You guys can still not like the redemption if you want.You all have your freedom of opinion darling.
I was also not happy with the threads opened to make fun of this fact.all I want is peace on the forum and I'm not happy the way people have divided into 2 groups here.
I'm sorry if I had hurt you or anyone in any manner.
I guess it would have been better if I had not replied to this thread.
I wanted to be at at truce with Laila.It's really sad to see that you guys have again misunderstood me.
Shaz did I ever say that you or anyone else is pointing out the wrong things always?
Why did u feel so yaar?
Anyways,I'm happy that finally you guys are ready to give a chance to CVs.I'm glad that CVs attempted to do something to satisfy all the lovers of ASYA.
Let's put an end to this discussion here.
We should just enjoy the show now.Isn't it?
By the way I've written a SS on ASYA.
I hope u may notice it soon.
I'm eagerly waiting for ur reply there. 😉
Take care!
love u
Muah!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Laila2009



That we don't agree? or what you think i think of you?😕OK, perhaps we need to take this matter up in PM cause methinks once again you working at getting another thread of mine closed again on a decent topic that others like, by arguing with me again. That's not fair. You and others gave your opinion now be kind and let me give mine and allow myself and others to share.

Thank you - at least give us that courtesy - haath jor ki keri hoon.

Thank you.



Hey I was hurt coz the letter was send to BCCC.
I had just one aim and that was to appreciate this thread.
You yourself took the matter on the negative side.
Trust me I've no such lame intentions to get this thread closed down.
We may argue a hundred times but I don't hold a single grudge against you my dear.
All of us have a right to voice their opinions.
I think it would have been better if I had not replied here.Atleast you might have not misunderstood me.
Plz let me know if u wish me to delete all my posts.I'll do that to make you happy.
I request you again not to misunderstand me.
You have really made a lovely post and I loved it.
Take care!
Edited by crazy4KASH_AR - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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it was all pre planned dear they never get effected by hate mails if PH strat working on hate mails then no show will work n no one will make any show
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: adeeti10

Hey Laila,

I think that scene today said it all. Her flinching and sudden change in behaviour. For me, it was a poignant moment. Her reflex - Zoya might think she's forgotten and moved on, but her subconscious hasn't.

Asad might think his sorry and her verbal acceptance sealed the deal but her action yesterday spoke louder then the words.

Yes, verbal abuse can hurt - when he taunted her about her mother, it deeply pained her. She thought about it, cried and processed it. When she did get a chance, she explained that no matter how big a mistake one makes, one doesnt deserve not having a mother.

I'm glad in a way that the CVs realise its NOT JUST A SLAP, and while we were asked to move on, and pretend it was nothing on this forum, they realise the need to show the after effects. This is the sensitive portrayal I would have liked.

I don't know if this was part of the original plan or it came about as the result if your actions, but I'm to some extent relieved.

The other thing... I'm going to give them a week or two henceforth to see how the story plays out before I strongly condemn something. Not to say I won't critique a particular scene or act, but I'm gong to be patient, wait and watch and sit on the fence first.

I don't know if this thread will be closed by the mods because we are still discussing the 'word that must bot be spoken' but that's weird cos the CVs are still sowing the aftermath. It's a slap to our faces if our fundamental right of speech is taken away.

I'm being rational, sane and neutral here... No offensive language, or indirect reference to people.. But it would be a shame if they thought this thread must be shut.




Do u know how much I love you for this wonderful post Adeeti..
🤗
A warm hug from my side sweety.
you have expressed your views in a wonderful manner.
I love u so much for this.
Take care!
Muah!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran45

it was all pre planned dear they never get effected by hate mails if PH strat working on hate mails then no show will work n no one will make any show



Very well said dear.
I agree completely.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rockerchic

I would like to think Gul had this planned But all things considered it probably got upped because of the outrage. 😉


I've said it before, i'll say it again.

They're not in love.

They're not falling in love.

They're barely friends.

From that stand point, i think the redemption is well placed and timed. As far as Asad-Zoya are concerned, I'm buying what they're showing except for a poor bit of screenplay every now and then.

As for the whole mystery- it better be good and live up to the hype. Fingers crossed Gul has something up her sleeves.

I think Ayaan-Zoya has been scrapped. Or it should be. Not because I'm overly involved with Asya. But i think it would put a damper on the quality of show.

And the sole reason for that is - Rishab.

He can't act. And to give him more screen time would be detrimental for QH. Yes his cute moments with Humeira are nice fillers but anything more and it would be torture.

As a PH, i'm sure 4lions knows the shortcomings of Rishab and unless we have a change of actors, I really hope Ayaan-Zoya doesn't come into play.

I think it would involve a lot of complex emotions, especially if it's a forced/circumstantial marriage/whatever.

I think it's a safe bet that that track has been scrapped. And these things happen it's all about improvising and so far QH has delivered enough for me to stick on to it.




RC ayan zoya track is not scrapped for sure it will def play out
4 lions are adamant and they will never bow down to audience wish
remember dks track we even petitioned to stop did that happen
same goes here with rocking trps that is on our way after this raaaz
this story has been triangle love
and aalia one member has decoded that this headed for halala marriages

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