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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsuasrkian


Raj, Thanks for th ecomment. No, you have not hurt me.

The underlined part was a LOL bit- maane, 'giv ethe poor girl a break.' He knew she was listening to music. HE should have repeated the apology, which he never did. Hey, I am not taking sides here. She jumped the gun too. So, fair points to both!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TanHa911


Ofcourse , she deserved a proper apology fo the Akram incident, which Asad did. But Zoya ka personal khunnas nikalne ke liye you humiliate someone in front of his colleagues and subordinates ... thats taking it a lil too far. I guess I just dont appove of people who don't know know where to draw the line. I like Zoya a lot more now.


Yes, I agree witrh you there.
She did NOT KNOW where to draw the line. I don't think she has changed so soon either.
Zoya has certain beliefs- and she will act up on them. She is not prim and proper, will never be. But she has that charm that all of Gul's heroines have. I must confess I have loved Zoya from the beginning. How can any one not love a scatter- brain like her?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post with some valid points!I was expecting Asad to change his views on Zoya and soem of his male chauvinistic ways especially after that near death experience he saw Zoya go through as for me that would have been more heart felt and touching.It would have been more scope for us to emphasize with Asad's character and Zoya should have felt comfortable in telling him about Maryam as she should have been feeling that same comfort and security she felt back in Mangalpur just by his sheer presence.I Dnt think Asad would hand Maryam over after knowing what they had put her through and with the ordeal she's been through before and if they were to do that than I would be absolutely flabbergasted...this would really be bordering on butchering Asad's character and I dnt think they can afford to do that!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shaz2009

Great post with some valid points!I was expecting Asad to change his views on Zoya and soem of his male chauvinistic ways especially after that near death experience he saw Zoya go through as for me that would have been more heart felt and touching.It would have been more scope for us to emphasize with Asad's character and Zoya should have felt comfortable in telling him about Maryam as she should have been feeling that same comfort and security she felt back in Mangalpur just by his sheer presence.I Dnt think Asad would hand Maryam over after knowing what they had put her through and with the ordeal she's been through before and if they were to do that than I would be absolutely flabbergasted...this would really be bordering on butchering Asad's character and I dnt think they can afford to do that!


Thanks a lot, Shaz.

Asad would never hand over Mariam- we all know that and he knows that. Poor Zoya does not, since Mr. Khan does not believe a conversation has to have both people talking. Unfortunately, he does all the talking...well, Zoya nad Asad both have to learn some lessons about each other and love and life in general.😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I do agree about Asad being judgmental and impulsive..But aren't we forgetting the most important fact that it is Asad's house and Zoya is a guest there? Is it fair to Asad that Zoya is indulging in something this dangerous in his house despite his repeated warnings? Dont u think there is a possibility of Dilshad and Tamatar's life being endangered if Mariam's dad gets to know this? I love Zoya and her selfless nature but she must not forget that there are certain lines which a guest should not encroach..If u think of it practically, any host will lose their calm in such a situation..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

I do agree about Asad being judgmental and impulsive..But aren't we forgetting the most important fact that it is Asad's house and Zoya is a guest there? Is it fair to Asad that Zoya is indulging in something this dangerous in his house despite his repeated warnings? Dont u think there is a possibility of Dilshad and Tamatar's life being endangered if Mariam's dad gets to know this? I love Zoya and her selfless nature but she must not forget that there are certain lines which a guest should not encroach..If u think of it practically, any host will lose their calm in such a situation..


Asad never mentioned any danger to him- he clearly told her that HER life would be at stake- now what is Zoya supposed to do when Mariam comes begging for safe asylum- she cannot tell Asad, because he never told her he will take care of Mariam' s issues.And she cannot throw the poor girl out, knowing her father is waiting to catch her and get her married off to that rapist. She had gone to the police station once with Asad and th elawlessness in this country is on;y topo evident toi her by now. What can Zoya DO?
Why did Asad not tell her not to worry, and that he'd help Mariam in case Zoya knew about her whereabouts. Instead, he threatened her for the sake of her own safety. He was selfish here. He thought of her, not Mariam.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I respect your opinion but do you think its wrong to be selfish? Doesn't that how the world function? Its great that Zoya is selfless but isn't it a little too much to expect others to be like that as well..After witnessing first hand what Mariam's family is capable of, whats wrong if Asad is selfish enough to worry only about the safety of Zoya and his family? Am glad there is this tinge of realism they portray in Asad's character..Helping others is not wrong but not at the cost of endangering others' lives..Am sure Zoya knows how notorious Mariam's family is..Add to it the fact that she is living as a guest in someone's house..I understand where Zoya is coming from but i wouldn't fault Asad if he flips cos honestly, thats how i'l react if a guest does something similar at my place
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

I respect your opinion but do you think its wrong to be selfish? Doesn't that how the world function? Its great that Zoya is selfless but isn't it a little too much to expect others to be like that as well..After witnessing first hand what Mariam's family is capable of, whats wrong if Asad is selfish enough to worry only about the safety of Zoya and his family? Am glad there is this tinge of realism they portray in Asad's character..Helping others is not wrong but not at the cost of endangering others' lives..Am sure Zoya knows how notorious Mariam's family is..Add to it the fact that she is living as a guest in someone's house..I understand where Zoya is coming from but i wouldn't fault Asad if he flips cos honestly, thats how i'l react if a guest does something similar at my place


^ Exactly.

And I actually like Asad more for watching out for Zoya selfishly. Cuz thats what you do. You weren't born to save the world, no one is. Your protect what is yours, you stand up for family and those that you and it ends there. Maryam's bhaijan (the one who promised to take her to Dubai) is the one who should be making these efforts, not Zoya.


But I do see where the thread-maker is coming from. One cannot be blamed for being fond of Zoya, woh hai hi itni bindaas and awesome. But Zoya just needs that lil edge of realism to her fancies so she doesnt do more harm than good when shez off trying to save the world in her own way. Hopefully Asad can fix that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: TanHa911


^ Exactly.

And I actually like Asad more for watching out for Zoya selfishly. Cuz thats what you do. You weren't born to save the world, no one is. Your protect what is yours, you stand up for family and those that you and it ends there. Maryam's bhaijan (the one who promised to take her to Dubai) is the one who should be making these efforts, not Zoya.


Roger and Tanha- first of all, thanks a lot for sharing your views.
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I think you got me wrong somewhere here- 'And I actually like Asad more for watching out for Zoya selfishly. Cuz thats what you do.' That is exactly what I said too- he is selfish. We are all selfish.😆

Just that, Zoya is not. Just like we wouldn't understand Zoya's POV, Zoya wouldn't understand ours.


But I do see where the thread-maker is coming from. One cannot be blamed for being fond of Zoya, woh hai hi itni bindaas and awesome. But Zoya just needs that lil edge of realism to her fancies so she doesnt do more harm than good when shez off trying to save the world in her own way. Hopefully Asad can fix that.


Thanks for getting me right here.🤗
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Posted: 12 years ago
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of course zoya should not tell asad anything! who is he?he just happens to own the house where she is living as a guest.she has complete rights to call him a mental case make fun of him in front of his staff, interfere in his business affairs,tell him to get out of his own house come and go as and when she pleases, and put everybodys life in danger just because it is her right and she is so good at heart.come on anybody would do that in her place.dont you think you are taking your feministic sensibilities too far?it is easy to call asad a chauvinist and regressive.but havent you heard of the saying jaisa des vaisa bhes.in short you have to adjust your thinking according to your surroundings, she has no idea of the cultural scenario of the place she has come to and asad has been trying to make her see that, which she fails to understand.when she us living under someones roof she has no right to invite someone .she has no idea what danger she is putting asads family into, and the consequences may turn out to be grave.

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