6/6/12DragonClub: Sorry Won't Make a Live Man Dead

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Posted: 13 years ago
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It is a dark, dark day for PV indeed. 😭

How are we supposed to enjoy Aarti bonding with PayPal now? How are we supposed to enjoy Yash bonding with Ansh without feeling guilt by proxy that we know something he doesn't? What have they done?

And yet it is interesting in a way. Now Yash and Aarti are on an even playing field, with no family really influencing their decisions. Yash was manipulated by Bua but he signed those divorce papers by choice, clearly stating that this marriage means less to him than Arpita's memory. Before that, it was the family that was reinforcing that with the name change and the kangan. But at that moment Yash made that assertion. Today Aarti took over the lie that had been told by her parents. She has taken the fault entirely on herself. So even though her decision was a crap fest and I hate the universe right now, it is pretty clever, because the relationship has moved to a new stage where all the problems have compounded around these two individuals. They have internalised and adopted the wrongs of their parents and they have to sort it out now, without blaming anybody or dragging anyone into the mix.

You know what is ironic? Aarti says there is no more jhoot in her and Yash's relationship now but actually that is not the case because leaving aside the divorce/widow thing, Yash believes her to be as in love with her previous partner as he is with hers. And that is not true. Yash at least deserves to know that! This makes me wonder if the second promo has even played out yet.

I think what bothered me most was the fact that Aarti decided never to tell Yash, rather than vowing to find a better time. That would have been an answer that would have pleased both the 'yes' and 'no' voters. Now they have completely compromised her character, though it will be interesting to see how they resurrect her when her self-righteous castle comes tumbling down.

It is interesting to see though that Aarti has gone back into her default saint-martyr mode that she had before she committed to this marriage. If Shobha likes to play god, Aarti likes to play martyr. If I take away the feeling of being cheated by the gimmick, then I realise that this is good storytelling. Aarti is going around in circles, with only a little progress to her character at each step. First she was a martyr at the altar of Prashant, then at the altar of Ansh and now at the altar of Yash and the Scindias. And I guess the heroism they portrayed was through her own eyes. Silly girl! She has so much growing up to do!

As much as I hated M/Gaya at face value, there was some depth to their scenes. They brought back the weirdly true dialogues from them, doubting Aarti's character, but inadvertently speaking the truth. It probably was Prashant on the phone and so they weren't off base. I felt bad that Vidhi showed so much faith in Aarti, because she is going to be proven wrong partially. I agree that Aarti is not "that type" of girl, but she is lying now and when Vidhi finds out she went against her in laws for a woman who deceived them all, she is not going to be happy!

We have been talking so much about Arpita lately that it was sort of a jolt to hear Gayatri talking about her. She was so fond and tearful and showed such ownership, calling her "meri Arpita bahu" but I wonder if she was so fond when she was alive... simply because Vidhi says she has always been a terror. But today we heard Gaya's three requirements for a perfect bahu: she must be of cheerful disposition, she must serve everyone in the house with her whole heart and she must keep Yash (her son) happy. But I saw a glimmer of hope because almost without meaning to, she gives Aarti the chance to prove herself and that is a step forward.

The comparison between Yash and Prashant was unnecessary. We already knew that. But I thought it was cute (before the tragedy befell us) that she put her mouth on his water bottle. They say "kisi ki jhoota khana ya peene se pyaar badta hain" I think Aarti mistook the meaning a little there, though. 😕

The praying bit was totally silly. What was that about? I guess it showed that Aarti made the decision when all their eyes were closed. She is taking advantage of their innocence to clear her own conscience. I am so mad at her today! 😡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I will b honest here and admit that I m disappointed with Aarti's decision to just assume that her past does not exist and go ahead with Yash as her present and future 😒 ...

A Lie is a Lie ...No Abstract Truth can nullify it ...plss Understand Aarti 😭😭
Mayb the Viewers verdict was in favour of NO but I feel this decision of Aarti will backfire for her in future when Prashant will come back to haunt her ..He seems to b already giving blank calls in Scindia mansion..isn't it 😡😕 ... So when Prashant will come in front of Aarti , what will she tell Yash and her Sasural ?? 😡 ...Will she still say this is not her past ?? 😡A lie is a lie and so Aarti or Shobha cannot change it with their abstract truths 🤢 ...

Having said that I do agree with one point of Shobha that Aarti can give some time to herself and make sure to strengthen her relationship with Yash first as a wife before she tells this big truth to Yash so that Yash can understand her emotions well 🤔... But deciding never to tell this truth since it does not exist is nothing but stupidity because tomorrow she only will b accused of this big lie and that time noone will understand her so call abstract truth since fact is Prashant is still alive ...

I understand Aarti does not want Yash and the kids to once again drift apart from each other since she saw so much warmth and love between father and the kids today in the garden 😭but in long run for this kind of bonding to remain intact , its necessary Aarti tells the truth to Yash ...
Aarti can consider Scindia Mansion her temple or whatever she wants ...But just burrying the truth in the name of "it never exists" is stupidity 😡 and I feel CVs never intended to show Aarti telling the truth to Yash ..it was just a gimmick played and so today was sort of a defensive episode to justify to the viewers why Aarti will not tell the truth
Its the false build-up which brought the disappointment in me as a viewer 😔
I think the main issue here is not about truth coming out or not because we all were fine with the way things were progressing and we already assumed that truth will come out once AarYa fall in love ...
It was because of this huge build-up that was made by the CVs , we all kept our hopes on it and then when everything went phuss , we r feeling the disappointment ...its like u show us a ice-cream candy from a distance but when u go near , there is no candy 😆😆...
They could hv promoted this whole track as Prashant's final death in Aarti's eyes and Aarti becoming Aarti Yash Scindia in true sense ...then it would hv looked better and we had not kept any such expectations of truth coming out either ...
It was the way of promotion which went wrong and most of us r feeling cheated here

Some of the Positives and valid points
My take can never b over without the positives of the episode 😆 ..so if I forget the much hyped truth fiasco and just see it as another normal episode ..then these r the positives coming out from the episode 😳
1) If truth had come out now in front of Yash , he would hv gone and told this to his parents since he does not believe in hiding stuffs and also AarYa relationship has not yet reached to a stage where he will take the route of hiding facts from his parents to protect Aarti ... So things might hv taken a worst turn here if Aarti had revealed the truth so soon to Yash because Senior Scindias would never accept it 🤔...We r disappionted because of the overall hype that was made and in the end nothing came out but from a practical POV , I dont think anyone of us were actually looking forward for this truth coming out so soon right after the separation track ..isn't it ?? 😳...
2) Shobha today told Aarti this is not the right time for her to tell the truth to Yash since their relationship is not matured enough for Yash to understand these sensitive emotrions but Shobha indirectly hinted to Aarti that once her relationship with Yash becomes more strong , then she can go ahead 😳...So I hv hopes that tomorrow this same Shobha will ask Aarti to tell the truth once Aarti-Yash comes close to each other in terms of trust and understanding 😊
3) In the car scene , the way Aarti was suffocating after getting those Prashant flashes , I feel Yash already smells something fishy and who knows he himself might try to find out what is bothering Aarti 😉😳😳
4) Blank Call in Scindia mansion indicates Prashant chapter is not closed yet and he might strike back soon and who knows Yash might get a live demonstration of Prashant and so even without Aarti saying anything , Yash can himself guess the truth and support Aarti against Prashant 😃
Overall a disappointing episode from a truth POV since lot of hype was created but as a general episode , I feel it was not bad because today the episode gave rise to Aarti Yash Scindia in real sense with Tulsi maa's blessings 😊..Mayb the dialogues were too melodramatic since CVs were trying to justify the lie but the rise of Aarti Yash Scindia with her self-realisation once she sees Yash bonding with the kids was well executed 😊
Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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AAARRRGGGHHH...Well what a let down 😕 😒 😡 😭

Shobha should be the one person Aarti could trust to guide her in the right direction when she's at an impasse but today Shobha misguided her daughter 👎🏼

So "Prashant" started his games already prank calling the Scindias' well i guess Aarti is going to regret her decision cause between boa & Prashant her life is going to be a living hell 😔

Yash playing with the kids was the highlight of today's epy for me ❤️
On another note: We finally got to hear about Arpita through G3 that was nice but i really need boa to go away for a every every longtime i can't stand that woman
Well now instead of yoga i heading to kick boxing class i need to let off some steam 😉
Laters my lovelies xox
Edited by Zetter - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Suspense of the day, will Aarti tell Yash the truth...hmmm tune in to PV to find out

So all the viewers of Punar Vivah r bent out of shape cause Aarti didn't tell the truth about her being a divorcee not a widow! Hello people, if this truth comes out now, how will the show drag for at least 18 months...Abhi toh ishq baaki hai na, only after that truth will come out and boom, dono lovers separate ho jayenge!

Formula for indian dailies.


Love

Pregnancy
Separation
Lovers marry someone else
Miscarriage
Divorce
and the cycle continues forever and ever...lol


Samna love the title

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LPH9F2vWpY[/YOUTUBE]


Umeedein Tumhin Se Hain Mere Sanam
Thaama Hai Tumhara Hi Ye Daaman
Ho Bhoolenge Kabhi Na Ab Tumhein Hum
Oh Bhoolenge Kabhi Na Ab Tumhein Hum
Oh Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam
Tere Ho Gaye Hain Hum
Teri Kasam
Teri Kasam

Teri Yaadon Ke Saaye Mein Guzregi Ye Zindagi
Us Khuda Ke Baad To Pooja Hogi Bas Teri
Chaahe Jo Maanglo Sab Tumhara Hai
Chaahe Jo Maanglo Sab Tumhara Hai
Ho Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam
Tere Ho Gaye Hain Hum
Teri Kasam




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PV Creatives, here is a list of songs that we would like to see on Yash and Aarti! DC members or anyone, if you want to see any other songs, please drop me a PM and I'll try to update list on page 1 of DC daily!

#1. Dil kya kare jab kissi ko (julie)
#2. Bheegi bheegi raato mein
#3. Haye haye ye majboori :P
#4. Woh hain zara
#5. husn ke...laakhon ke rang
#6. aaj rapat jaiyo (namak halal)
#7. sajna hai mujhe ☺️
#8. Baahon mein challe aao
#9. Jaane do na
#10.Roop tera mastana
#11 Piya tu
#12. Bhor bhaye panghat pe
#13. Chadhti jawani meri 🤣
#14. Aa zara (Murder 2)
#14. Aaja Piya
#15 LSD 🤣
#16. Zara Zara touch me
#17.choli ke peechhe kya hai
#18 Hey sexy lady
#19. Sarkai liyo khatiya 🤣 jaada lagge! 🤣
#20. Jaadu hai nasha hai
#21.Could I have this kiss forever!
#22. Bheege hont tere
#23. Ooo lala Ooo lala (Dirty Picture)
#24 Tune ye Rangeela kaisa Jaadu kiya
#25 Hoton se Chulo Tum
#26 Chura liya hai Tumne jo dil ko
#27 Hum Dil de Chuke Sanam






Edited by 49erFan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Arti should one day become indifferent to Prashant. What do she care if he is alive or not whether he is sad or happy. Letting go of is never looking back, I think.

So at the moment she hasn't let go completely of Prashant because there is too much hurt feelings for her to have closure. Therefore I'm with @Jyo, that Arti isn't going to tell Yash anything!


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Edited by AngelDark - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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heart beats rising!!!
SATYAMEV JAYATE =)!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh my God, what in heaven is Aarti's faisla??? I am dying with curiosity, burning with suspense, and unable to get one word out as I type this!

Here's my personal story of tossing and turning between one possibility and another!

YESTERDAY I WAS SURE SHE WOULD NOT TELL

Yesterday I felt sure that Shobha may have convinced Aarti with her "antim sanskar" of Prashanth that she is indeed a "widow" in every sense, especially after the "virtual death" of Prashanth.

TODAY I STARTED GETTING SUSPICIONS SHE WOULD TELL

Today the very fact that Shobha rang Aarti again shows that even Shobha is shaky about Aarti's ultimate decision. Shobha found it necessary to reiterate the need for Aarti to "forget the past and take steps into the future", as as the phone call proceeded, Aarti's steely eyes and sense of determination started kindling suspicions in me that Aarti has actually perhaps decided to tell everything to Yash '

THEN BACK I WENT TO "SHE WILL NOT TELL"

Although there was a kind of determination in Aarti's eyes as she replied Shobha, later near the tulsi Aarti said that one sentence "I have decided to start anew. I will forget my past and make a new beginning. I will live for Yash, for the children and the home and family, as they are my future".

AND FINALLY BACK I WENT TO "SHE WILL TELL"

Hardly had Aarti finished the tulsi scene, when she went to the doorway she said "Hereafter there is no untruth between me and Yash and it's a new beginning".

AARTI, PLEASE TELL ME - WHETHER OR NOT YOU TELL YASH!

Now I am in such a state of agony that I wish before Aarti tells Yash or doesn't tell Yash, she will at least tell me what is her decision!

The Creatives are very very clever. Every word today had double meaning and the story can go either way. I am thoroughly confused now and am gritting my teeth waiting to see if at least tomorrow's episode will show what is Aarti's final decision!

MY WORST FEAR ' FRIDAY HANGING!

At this moment my worst fear is that even tomorrow and Friday there may be this continuing drama of "Will she, won't she" ' and I may have to hang upside down in the weekend!

Meanwhile, the other scenes in the show were as good as usual, even if they got eclipsed behind this larger question of Aarti's decidion. The best scenes for me today were:

* Aarti and Shobbha giving each other strange looks when Aarti was getting into the car, and Shobha's prayer that Aarti should make the right decision

* The blank calls and Bua again "programming" Gayatri that it may be one of Aarti's former lovers! Thankfully Vidhi gave the Bua a earful! (I THINK IT WAS NOT Prashanth, just a scare by the Creatives!)

* The car scene where Aarti was seeing all the flashbacks that showed how different Yash was to Prashanth

* Bua and Gayatri keeping the kangans hoping the 3 month deadline will see Aarti failing and getting booted out of the house

* Shobha's phone call to Aarti to once again think hard about her faisla and to keep in mind everything Shobha had advised her

OH GOD, SOMEONE HELP ME, I AM A NERVOUS WRECK!

Edited by skanda12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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almost ten minutes to start PV... eager to watch!! so thrilled...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Love the title!

I am still not sure about CVs. will believe it when its aired!

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