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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angie12

@Ruchi, thanks.

Actually you are right that the new family/groom will not be worse than this family/Raj. But why this rush into another marriage when one hasn't even gotten out of the first one. 😊 Actually that was an answer to dadi's thought why sarita was sacrificing. I was like what sacrifice, I would call it good riddance. I am all for Sarita rediscovering her old hobbies, continuing her education or getting a career, anything that restores her self worth and makes her confident. But that's not what a show's leading lady does 😡. Isn't that what one does before looking for somebody else. But then how else they can claim it as a progressive show where the husband is getting the PV of her wife done. The rich parents are now missing for 10 years. Very strange as rarely I have seen influential rich parents abandoning their daughter in such a way. I find all set of parents unbelievably weird and irresponsible in this show - dadi, sohan-kamla and sarita's parents. Seems like no one put any effort to give the right amount of security and values to their kids. I have never seen that kind of indifferent parenting.

I understand that you fall for a child automatically. I fell in love with my nephews when they were just hours old. In the beginning, when they used to sleep all the time, And I am not even their mother. So a mother would have even more attachment to her kids.

But here we are talking about a grown woman. I can understand her being conditioned to love someone. But not having even a tiny bit of resentment at his behavior is so unrealistic. And then how can you respect somebody who has not stood up for you for 10 years. There has to be some loss of respect somewhere. Yet yesterday she was telling him that she learnt how to love from him. I have always thought of love as a combination of respect, attraction and friendship - that's why I don't believe in "divine love" theory. I also believe love is something earned, not something you just gift to someone - it's not something static that would never change irrespective of any change in the person loved. But all my original concepts are not holding true in this story. Not only I fail to understand why Sarita loves Raj, I also find it difficult to believe that Divya continues to love Raj. So, now I am just trying to comprehend Sarita's and Divya's "love". Btw, if Sarita's love is self-destructive, you know whom to blame - she learnt it all from Raj 😆

Ruchi, I would not be too sure about the quality of episodes. After two good episodes, there are several crappy ones. Yesterday too you would have been repulsed by how they showed this woman Meenakshi who was touching Sarita on the waist, face etc. to measure her worth. I have yet to see an arranged marriage where a wedding match has done this. Then the way they were discussing sleeping arrangments of Sarita and Raj so publicly was disgusting. So this repulsive scenes continue. I don't know if this brings TRPs. That's why they continue to show this nonsense.
😡 Thanks for cautioning me - I will steer clear. Yuck!!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchisahay

Great post Misti and great comments Angie.

I think I am going to watch the episodes now once in a while as I am reading that episodes are getting better - now that Kamu and Sohu are less abusive and interfering in Raj-Sarita relationship (in fact they want it to get over quickly), maybe I won't find them too offensive.Oh now we have Madam M...the matchmaker who pokes and prods prospective brides as if they are cows to be sold in cattle market.
Shiela's question to Sarita irritated me - come on, wasn't she the one who convinced dadi to let Sarita leave the house. Have CVs forgotten that completely? yeh they do...raat gayee baat gayee syndrom.😉Dadi asks why is Sarita sacrificing? My counter question - what is Sarita sacrificing?In all probability, whatever family and husband she ends up with would be better than the ones she has now. I say girl, go for it but please please choose the guy yourself and not accept Raj's decision. I think dadi is secretly lamenting that Sarta is leaving her and going away. Who else is now going to listen to her deep deep phiolosophical thoughts.😉
Divya did not let Raj treat her as a doormat but she too absolved him of all the guilt (with regards to Raj-Divya relationship).That s because Raj is also her love guru😉. Maybe she is one of those people who find it easier fighting for others rights than for their own right. Maybe she also fought for Sarita because she does not want Sarita to go through what she has gone through...I mean being alone in a male dominated society. Unfortunately there so much things that have been unexplained regarding Divya that sometimes understanding her becomes a bit difficult. Also, why is she still in love with Raj? Can she even find the guy she loved 10 years back in the present day Raj? The one she met now does not respect relationships, is no longer his artistic, sensitive self and initially did not even give her space (trying to get too close to her even when she was uncomfortable). If her love was a response to Raj's qualities and persona, how can she still identify with him? Of course, her falling "out-of-love" will go against "one life, one love" theory. and the most important Tulsi anthem
Coming to Sarita, yes I completely agree that her feelings for Raj is a result of conditioned mind. But it can still be love, right? If someone just decides to love a person, he or she can still do that I know it sounds weird - I am myself not too convinced, just thinking aloud. For example. the love a mother feels for her new born - it's not about any qualities, nor looks or persona or the response. I can tell it from experience that I was madly in love with my kid even when he slept for 18+ hours, did not even recognize me and only communicated by crying. It is a different kind of love - but it is a love without rhyme or reason and completely due to mental conditioning. So, I guess it can happen. Do I even make sense? No sorry it does not make any sense to me. I actually can't understand the context of your example.Saritas love for a person who has indirectly abused her by neglecting her and keeping silent is due to her conditioned mind. I mean probably she has been taught from childhood that when one marries they have to love their husband and the husband will become the centre of their world. It does not matter what his behaviour is towards the wife...but the wife has to put him first. Now since you are finding similarity between Sarita's love for her husband to a mother's love for her baby... when the baby initially does not have any tangible relationship with the mother that will mean that everything relating to the baby that has happened to the mother is abuse...that includes conception, pregnancy and child birth. I am sure that under normal circumstances no mother considers all this as abuse. that is why I cannot find any similarity between a mother's love for her child and Sarita's so called love for Raj.
Of course, the whole situation is super funny and weird - why is no one talking about Raj-Sarita divorce? This family has no respect for law - maybe after Sohu, Sarita too will commit bigamy. Wonder what the match maker told the new guy's family that they agreed to their son's alliance to a woman married for 10 years and not even divorced. Maybe this is the new fashion?

Edited by misti73 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soniaman

Misti really nce analysis...more than this, i cant write...



Thanks Sonia. Don't worry about not writing more..I do understand.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Thanks for the info Misti,you are welcome Myra. lets see what these new guys van do to the story and how can they bring divya back! Felt really sorry for sarita when that matchmaker was analysing her but its good that this time raj isnt oblivious to what happens to her and actually cares for the girl, guilt has made him aware now..too bad sarita will see it as jelousy and fall deeper for him...lets see if cvs make this pv happen,. really curious now if they do make raj a love sick pupy after 10 years of ignorance.I think it will be more of a guilt sick puppy 😉.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Misti ruby tweet make things clear...this channel is ghran for us fans... Moreover, this ph s crap writing makes me boiled...today i feel betrayed as loyal fans...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soniaman

Misti ruby tweet make things clear...this channel is ghran for us fans... Moreover, this ph s crap writing makes me boiled...today i feel betrayed as loyal fans...



Sonia things were almost clear from the beginning of the show. From the beginning the script has been written and moulded keeping Sarita in mind and not Divya.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Misti

Thanks for the wonderful response.

Angie

Thank you for your detailed write up. I apologise for crediting another with the stockholm syndrome analogy instead of you.

Misti, thanks for setting the record straight on this. I hope that the CVs read all that you and Angie have written and take some pointers to shape up the storyline and characters. I feel that it is not yet too late to wake up the plot from the nightmare it appears to be having, and set it on a road where it could be quite interesting.

We get that this is a serial world, and we have to allow a wide berth for all kinds bloopers, and cultural stereotypes to have an abiding presence alongside the plot. But to expect the viewers to swallow something totally against logic is not realistic.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thanks Ruchi for explaining your thoughts to me because I was a bit confused. Yes I do accept that there has to be liking, respect and understanding for love to happen. For this same reason I don't understand that that how can the feelings that Sarita have towards Raj be described as one that is based on liking, respect and understanding. For ten years Raj ignored her and let her be abused so when it is mentioned that she loved him for ten years I cannot understand that how is it love. All I can see is conditioned emotional attachment to her husband who indirectly is also her abuser...something like Stockholm Syndrome. Then now when they are saying that it is love...then also I cannot understand why is this love and not emotional attachment of a conditioned mind towards her husband because Sarita knows that it was Divya who drilled it into his head that he has to take responsibility and until now he is doing it. This is something that he did not realise on his own but someone forced him to accept it.

Coming to arranged marriages ...yes in earlier times people had to accept whom they had to get married to. Even now I have friends who accept it because that is how their mind has been conditioned. All three are highly educated and qualified...two are also financially independent. One walked out because she realised that her son was getting affected and was picking up wrong values. Two are still continuing and both blame their in laws more than their husbands.So it still exists. Coming to arranged marriages if the husband had someone in their past and they let go of that person and from the beginning of the marriage gave respect to his wife...and there was liking, understanding, I can understand that why that wife's feelings could be understood as love. But to me if the husband was neglecting the wife...was disrespectful and yet the wife was calling that as love then that is again not love but again emotional attachment of a conditioned mind to her husband, because this is what has been taught to her from childhood. There are many abusive marriages and usually if you talk to the wives they are very protective of their husbands who are their main abusers and usually they stick to it because they have been conditioned to do so...because of the marriage. Surely that is not true love...one can say that it is a very destructive kind of love. I knew an elderly lady...she also had an arranged marriage and her husband neglected her and did not give her any respect. She never said that she loved her husband. She always said that she had to accept him because he is her husband.

Coming to Sarita...she can call it love. But does that mean that a third person who is viewing this marriage from outside also has to accept it as love? Now today I can declare that I am Madhuri Dixit but should others accept that I am Madhuri Dixit.?😉
Edited by misti73 - 12 years ago

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