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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: starry.phoenix

So much of Chaos, Disturbance, offences, allegations, hatred, aggression,etc for each other here ? May i know the reason why ?? just because the entire MKAP is now divided into 2 distinct zones, one for the Female Lead Pratigya and the other for his hubby, the male lead Krishna.


SO much fun,frolic, quick silver intelligence, friendship, humor witticism are found here ....😊..Is the MKAP divided now..I don't think so..it WAS divided and the slow process of healing has begun and is being successful ...

is this the truth ? but what about KriYa then? do 'KriYa' still exist here in this Forum ?

That it has been an open forum is the truth , it is a forum which has welcomed many and divergent views is the truth ,It has the tolerance to accept the varied views is the truth ..It has the broad mindedness to accept these views is the truth ...As for whether KRIYA exist ..well, Dear ..I cannot answer , you see from past 4-5 months all we are getting is Kesar and Shakthi track and we are not in loop with the PH's and we donno whether KRIYA exist ..and Please do not consider these as sarcasm..I am genuinely answering ur queries as a long and faithful watcher of this show..

From all the Posts, comments with all due respect to your thoughts, POV and Expressions the only Conclusion that can be drawn would be two separate things or rather two separate People P & K ( thats what you guyz like to call)

From ALL posts , Starry ..I am truly sorry to say that cos when I post ..I always make sure to keep them both in an even Keel and both are analyzed without any favor....See, This is what we have been complaining about ..That you are tarring us with the same brush ...just like you Mods..we are humans too..we too hurt when we are indicted unfairly..

It's a Shame for all of us who appreciate MKAP as a Show, don't you guyz realise it ? None of you i guess..

Krishna Lovers bashing Partigya as the dominating lady in her life and Pratigya supporters showing so much of negative thoughts for Krishna, being illiterate and jobless. is this the Tagline of the show ?

The Show is about a Girl who false prey ( yes thats the truth) to a Good Bad Boy smitten by her beauty, grace & simplicity. The Girl gets married to that boy finally, whatever be the reason..but isn't it She ultimately falls in love with Him ? where has those days gone ?? any memoriesss.... any things to share.. no! cos you guyz have decided to split the married couple into two opposition parties.


From the above para..it is quite obvious that you are not up to date in the current happening's in the show..The Boy n Girl have married and have been relegated to the background..Now it is Kesar's emancipation going on ... and do allow me to jog your memory , when the KRIYA were on , The forum was united ...and was not split ..😊

Giving all the other forum a Big Reason to 'Laugh and discuss' that you guys are fighting amongst yourselves only. Is this a Joke...? Yes or No ??

Are they ?? perhaps unlike other shows, our show is quite forceful, and passionate enough to provoke discussion,arguments .

Yes, because you all have done the same to the entire show......Shoiwng so much of allegations/dis-respect for the other members/Actors/Characters/CVs/DT members with everything you all said and done. The Show lost all its Existence since the day you all broke part into two P & K Zone. Sounds wierd and harsh naa! but give it a thought, n realize what you are guys are involved in.

Hun..I have gone to many forums..and have seen many divergent views and many atrocious language and direct abuse of the member ..but at least here , we do not bash members and we keep our discussion to the show consisting of FICTIONAL CHARACTERS ..and we debate on the sequence and tracks..that is the original purpose of the creators isn't it..to talk about the issues put up in the shows..

Those who talk about the Women's Right. are Women's Right only Pratigya and its not for Kesar or Aarushi, all are women i guess.... so it applies to all the female characters of the Show. Talking about Kesar, she has suffered alotttttt, Be it be her FIL, Husband or MIL, but for you all its a Waste of Time and you all show so much of aggression for her, its for the major section of our Society where alot of Women go thru and suffer the same kind of Unfortunate Situations. So its for all those women to get up and Live their Life on their own terms with Respect.

@ underlined,exactly dear..This show is about women and not about Pratigya ..and when we are discussing about Kesar and offer a different solution to the one that is presented //then does that imply that we are anti-Pratigya ..why are we then called Krishna Lovers..and when these Self same people hate and call names to Amma , another abused woman ..is it cool

And another note ..This show is multilayered as can be guaged from your post itself..in the top you have said that it is a love story whereas now you are saying that it deals with women's issues..in other words, Starry ..This is a complex show and there will be many discussion and multiple views on one single point..The readers should either try to understand the views presented or present their own outlook instead pf pressing report ...


Let me re-iterate that this is not a fluffy serial nor is it an eye candy nor is it based on tradition..this is a serial that is tackling many serious social issues , ticklish issues , controversial issues ..as such the posts that will be posted will be all of that and more ..so My request t to you would be ..Please don't measure it with the same barometer ..

And, those who think only KriYa can help the show go on & on, think it over is it possible? if we Exclude all the other charcters, will it be a Show ? Only KriYa no one else..

Finally, For those, who want to know what 'Bashing' is when we talk about India-Forums

Bashing is NOT allowed here!!! That goes for members, actors, characters and Dev. Team members. Please keep in mind that when you bash a character or an actor it may hurt the feelings of other members of the forum and can cause conflict on the forum. Some members have the habit of taking pot shots at fellow members including the Dev. Team, especially if they make any post criticizing something regarding the show or a jodi. Please DO NOT ake personal digs at members including the Dev. Team nor make fun of them or their posts. Be prepared to hear criticisms as well, to get more participation discussions are needed and not just praises. If you feel the criticism is wrong, reply to it properly within the limits of IF COC. What some of you are doing is breaking the COC.

Bashing Dev. Team Members is strictly against IF Rules. Warning Levels will be raised of members found bashing the Dev. Team. If you have any issues contact the section Dev Team by PM and sort it out. No personal attack direct/indirect, abusive / sarcastic, within or outside the forum shall be tolerated. Do remember that Moderators too have feelings just like you and any bashing would hurt their feelings.

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I am not bashing you, Starry or any of your DT be it directly or indirectly ....I am merely putting forth my views .. and responding to the queries you have posed , I am assuming I do have the liberty to share my views

anything else you guyz want to know what you all were upto ? Threatning DT members that you will do official complaint etc etc, how far is this correct ?
we are here to give you hassel free, organised medium of entertainment and Appreciating What you like about your fav. shows. Not about Bashing other show Charcters in any manner be it be SGP, YRKKH or any other Forum.

Each one of us have our favs. and we all have Full Rights to express our POV but within the limits of COC laid down by the IF Authorities. Any Further Posts, comments, that may instigate/provoke other members to react violently and hurt their feelings will not be tolerated. This is the Final say we had for all the members involved in these kind of Acts. Please maintain peace & harmony and enjoy.


Agree whole heartedly ..and also remember that ur fav Character will not be mine so have the broad mindedness to accept that view..

We ahev people from various zones, sectors, casts, creeds. etc etc etc but we do have one thing in common, India-forums, where we all are one, as BUDDIES, we love each other and Respect each others Existence.

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No Offences to anyone in particular, no hard feelings for anyone either but Please Please Please its a Humble Request to all our Fellow Members to live and let live in Peace and enjoy the Show MKAP as a Whole and not divide it into segments of Likes and Dislikes.

Same Here !! 😊

So guyz just Relax and Be Patient for the storyline to move ahead with alot more good things coming your way.

Thanks Alot
IF Dev. Team





Thank You for ur patient reading 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
#22
Dear Mods...Membs
I'll be honest and direct.
This forum was fun and welcoming.... jokes made over characters, be it Kriya, Thaks Krish, Prats etc was taken lightely.
Everyone was in sync and harmony.
The day the agressive posts regarding Womens, rights empowerment etc came in. The forum started cracking... Many of us tried to carry out damage control... but no one listened and hence today the forum looks shattered to the eyes of many.
The purpose of the forum has been misused.
They say.. Ek machar... pura thalab...gandha.
That is what has happened here.
Kools post was in context and a healthy discussion was being carried out there.
It's what came after that, unncessasary attacks.........
Yes rules have been broken too..... SPA..There was a perfect thread created by SacheeSeynaa, so much hard work and effort had been put in to her thread, where it had become the envy of others which resulted in it being copied by others.
But that wasn't good enough...people started creating three threads a day individually crying !Arhaan not going to SPA'. I see this simply as attention seeking... They want to be seen on the first page first post... Like to prove who can cry the hardest for Arhaan not going.
There are certain characters that paying viewers do not like Arushi and Aman were top in the list. I'm being open here - do not shoot me peeps. I'm talking for everyone. I'm trying to justify members views and Mods views too.
But Although CV's like this character - As humans should be be forced to have imposed on us such chracters that we may not like. Where are the viewers rights here? At the end of the day we are paying for this channel.
Consideration from the CV's would have been appreciated. Instead of lightening the dose we were completly drugged by it... to the extent all started taking extreme measures. But yes again there were threads after threads.
Is it a necessaty to write to CV's everyday? Over the same issue after each epi, critisising them..... If a long term issue is going on where you think its's been a few weeks - lets gather our thoughts and put it to the CV's over certain issues fair enough.
We had a member who would gather everyone's thoughts and every so often would write a letter to the POPs which was fantastic. But then everyone started writing their own all day long. This happened out of retaliation ...One was offended and others were provoked.
As members will know - When things were getting out of hand - I stepped in and helped control the situation.
I like to see all my sisters happy here... Life has enough stress.. The forum gives us fun. My job as DOSA of the forum is to entertain and bring a smile on their faces.
This is the bitter truth... Not many will say this loud, but they are all thinking the same and agreeing to this.
Other forums members - Heheheheheh, Our show and the forum is still the envy of many for which reason they visit here. WE ARE TOO involved with this show and forum... that another forum is an alien planet to us.
Thanks all for reading.
Love all 100% of the forum membs and MODS.
CARISMA
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Posted: 14 years ago
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First of all a round of applause for the painstakingly measured and cool response provided by Tanths - hats off to ur sabr santokh....👍🏼

Secondly as a dedicated fan and follower of this serial, and as an individual I am, at pains to point out again, eloquent and intelligent enough to put forth views cogently and coherently without breaking any sensible rules or protocols. I have to say how offended I am again that you have deemed, despite all previous posts, to tar all of us with the same murky brush.
I respectfully beg to differ with so much of your post it is pointless to write a point by point response. More so, I am frankly stupified that for such an inportant post it is written inadequately, at times is not grammatically correct and is so flagrantly generalistic with more than a fair share of bias.
There is an enormous amount of love and affection between members here, whether we agree with each other or not. Our welcomes to people interested in being here are very warm. Just because of a few individuals you have used methods which I would repectfully suggest are heavy handed and borderline militant.
For goodness sake - this is an entertainment forum and you speak of "the authorities" Astounding!
My motto is live and let live - please allow us to do the same and just waste our time here without making us feel like we are all participating in Big Brother.......
Many thanks! 👍🏼
Offence if taken was not intended but forgive me for not apologising in advance for, with respect, my conclusion is that I am not wrong.😃
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Posted: 14 years ago
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The atmosphere on the forum is stifling. People are constantly checking over their proverbial shoulder afraid of being reported.

I became addicted to this forum because I enjoyed reading contrasting views..........................that charm is quickly disappearing!
I will continue to chat and discuss as I always have!😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i've resisted commenting on this post for days now .......... but i just have one thing to help clear up
The reason there seems to be a team K vs. team P is because thats exactly the way the creators of this show want it .........
take away the romance which has been pratically non-existent & under-developed the past 4-5 months anyway........... and what you have is 2 strong willed characters with totally different ideologies who have been derterminely & delibrately left with that ideology intact without a lot of opportunities for them to find any meaningfull compromise.........
as long as K is K and P is P ........ there will be passionate discussions on their respective POV as presented to us the viewers by the makers of the show.........
as viewers we all think & interprete the characters' dialogues & actions differently........ so why should the viewers be restrained in voicing their opinion in suport or criticism of their actions ........
most of us here are respectful of each others POV and know when to avoid certain threads, or if we step into the thread, we know when hold or fold in the midst of a discussion or debate on what is being presented to us without taking it personally..................... so I also would like to add my voice to those requesting that you not paint us all with the same brush
this show is not for those seeking a perfect solution to every problem faced by the characters......... its a murky & hard hitting presentation of some of the issues faced by women in today's world that has done a very good job of always provoking a reaction from us, whether positive or negative
and on a personal note (sorry i dont know how to contact the CVs directly) i would like to extend my sincere gratitude to the makers of the show for showing so much consideration for our teeth & pancrease ....... can't say the same for our blood pressures though 😆
Edited by yemi3006 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: yemi3006

i've resisted commenting on this post for days now .......... but i just have one thing to help clear up

The reason there seems to be a team K vs. team P is because thats exactly the way the creators of this show want it ......... brilliant 👏 👏 👏 u have hit the nail in the right place.......exactly.........😊
take away the romance which has been pratically non-existent & under-developed the past 4-5 months anyway........... and what you have is 2 strong willed characters with totally different ideologies who have been derterminely & delibrately left with that ideology intact without a lot of opportunities for them to find any meaningfull compromise.........
as long as K is K and P is P ........ there will be passionate discussions on their respective POV as presented to us the viewers by the makers of the show......... soooooooo true......👏 👏 👏
as viewers we all think & interprete the characters' dialogues & actions differently........ so why should the viewers be restrained in voicing their opinion in suport or criticism of their actions ........
most of us here are respectful of each others POV and know when to hold or fold in the midst of a discussion or debate on what is being presented to us ....... so I also would like to add my voice to those requesting that you not paint us all with the same brush
this show is not for those seeking a perfect solution to every problem faced by the characters......... its a murky & hard hitting presentation of some of the issues faced by women in today's world that has done a very good job of always provoking a reaction from us, whether positive or negative 👏 👏 👏
and on a personal note (sorry i dont know how to contact the CVs directly) i would like to extend my sincere gratitude to the makes of the show for showing so much consideration for our teeth & pancrease ....... can't say the same for our blood pressures though 😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: yummimommy

The atmosphere on the forum is stifling. People are constantly checking over their proverbial shoulder afraid of being reported.

I became addicted to this forum because I enjoyed reading contrasting views..........................that charm is quickly disappearing!
I will continue to chat and discuss as I always have!😊

Exactly my grouse . We r afraid to post our views coz some one having a contrary opinion will just click on the REPORT button and shut us down .
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Mind u this is NOT there in OTHER forums . In Other forums REPORT button is genuinely used if foul language is used or actors and members r bashed .NEVER for an opposite opinion .
Some miscreants STARTED this in this forum and it caught on like a FOREST FIRE .
Why did these miscreants become succesful ? I am going to be BLUNT here . They became succesful coz the moderators were too busy to read the full thread ........they found it easier to simply SHUT the threads down and move on .
Threads after threads were shut down . No Healthy debate prevailed for a long time .
MKAP lost awards . Why ? If no FEEDBACK is reached to CVS due to such dead forums how will they IMPROVE ?
Tanthya , Mera , Carisma and many others valiantly stuck on , trying to give other perspectives for bettering the show .
Someone mentioned KRIYA ........even KRIYA suffered as CVS never got proper feedback . They DIDN"T get the best jodi award . See how KRIYA started out . And see where they r today .
I decided to speak up .If I am going to be kicked out of this forum anyways with false blames ..........I will go out voicing my view and the views of others who were keeping quiet coz they were afraid of being told never to post on the forum again .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Exactly my grouse . We r afraid to post our views coz some one having a contrary opinion will just click on the REPRT button and shut us down .
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Mind u this is NOT there in OTHER forums . In Other forums REPRT button is genuinely used if foul language is used or actors and members r bashed .NEVER for an opposite opinion .
Kools in some people's opinion if you state "Pratigya's hair looked a bit greasy..".or a trivial matter as such - it is termed bashing. When there have been threads about Baba's hair.... No one was offended. Baba is discussed far more than others on this show. For the good and bad.
But a line has to be drawn when - if one comments on prat'z style of speech... totally unrelated to Krishna. But then if threads are opened to bash Krishna ! That is not discussion that is TOOFAN MAIL. When questioned upon this..... a reply is given as 'Stop bashing P, or else I'll bash K.
The above example makes me feel that 99% of the forum is forced to conform to the social acceptence standards of the least majority.
If we enjoy the entertaining characters like THAKS we are condoned! Questioned on on our social and lawful acceptance!
We need to have a balance - this is a forum for fiction! to discuss characters created by humans not god.
If we see humans created in real life by GOD in trouble our humantarian intervention will not be compromised.
No one will marry the walking dead - but hey who doesn't like vampire love stories ! Real and reel.
Those pressing the report keys on all posts...... They are trying to force us to conform to their pov's. Listen to me.. agree and obey or else i'll press the report key !
Some miscreants STARTED this in this forum and it caught on like a FOREST FIRE .
Why did these miscreants become succesful ? I am going to be BLUNT here . They became succesful coz the moderators were too busy to read the full thread ........they found it easier to simply SHUT the threads down and move on .
Threads after threads were shut down . No Healthy debate prevailed for a long time .
MKAP lost awards . Why ? If no FEEDBACK is reached to CVS due to such dead forums how will they IMPROVE ?
Pearl grey has asked for feedback.... but not cristism over every epi or storyline.
Tanthya , Mera , Carisma and many others valiantly stuck on , trying to give other perspectives for bettering the show . Thanks
Someone mentioned KRIYA ........even KRIYA suffered as CVS never got proper feedback . They DIDN"T get the best jodi award . See how KRIYA started out . And see where they r today .
I decided to speak up .If I am going to be kicked out of this forum anyways with false blames ..........I will go out voicing my view and the views of others who were keeping quiet coz they were afraid of being told never to post on the forum again .

I do have faith that the MODS - will play fairly with us......... If you have a point..and fight for it. They will re-open a thread for you.

Edited by carisma2 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#29
Hello Mods,
I really appreciate all your insights. I would like to add some thoughts.
I have been silently following this thread for the last couple of days and refrained myself from commenting. But ,silence in this forum is presumed to be weakness. Well,my silence does not mean that I am weak, but it's just that I really do not find it important. But its important now because I feel that there is always a second side of the story.
The members have been targeting me and Yes bashing me. I will be very specific with what I will write: Carisma went a step ahead and said something in Hindi about a bad fish. I am sure she meant it was me. Well Carisma, I have news for you. Your attitude is that of a bully. You have bullied me everytime I wrote something about Krishna. Do you think it goes with the phrase: Live and let live? No. She went ahead and also said that this forum was nice and friendly before that 1% of the member entered. I guess so. oviously this forum is Krishna oriented and I am the only one supporting Pratigya. It was all nice and fine because there was no one with another view.
Another member called Madmadgirl harasses me unnessarily sending pictures with insulting captions.
Posted: 15 February 2011 at 5:57pm | IP Logged
here's a pic of my fave t-shirt....
Anu - sorry to say it love, but I often think of wearing this when reading some of your posts.....
Nevertheless good luck to you! Yours is an uphill struggle........


And this is what I replied:Posted: 15 February 2011 at 6:38pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Madmadgirl

here's a pic of my fave t-shirt....
Anu - sorry to say it love, but I often think of wearing this when reading some of your posts.....
Nevertheless good luck to you! Yours is an uphill struggle........
Do not be sorry to express your opinion. I am not. Well , I am not here to make friends or please anyone nor am I expecting any such favors from anyone. You have every right to feel the way you want to and I have the same rights myself.
Thanks
Anu
I was polite and I did not report this: Did I? Looking back I should have.
Anyways,There are many such members who have directly or indirectly insulted me. I will make a whole list and forward ot to you.Mods, when I do not like a post I try not to comment. I do not bash a member. Anyways , I am not the kind to back down and no one has the right to insult me.
Again, thanks for your thoughts. I completely agree with them.
Anu.
Edited by anusarkar - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#30
Anu
If I have threatened, disturbed, continually tormented you or made continued persistent attacks upon you, heaped criticism upon you that made you suffer, then I apologise. But before that apology is made sincerely please note the below facts:
As a lawyer you should know that before you accuse someone of having harassed you you at least should collect some evidence.
To date, I have had no complaints from any Moderator or any other member here of such allegations. The most pragmatic way to resolve issues would have been to pm me with your greivances - you havent.
Frankly you have probably single handedly destroyed the spirit of this Forum - congratulations - that's quite an accolade.
If you consider responses to your views which can be summed up in one line or in an phrase or a caption offensive - I again apologise - however this does not mean that I will not continue to post my opinions as and when I am inclined to do so or deem appropriate for me to do so.
Finally I address the Mods - this is the result of of a premature reaction on your part to an issue that has blown way out of proportion. Please, my sincere and humble request to you, in your role as arbitrators, at least try and ensure you have a full grasp of the issue and full facts before you issue edicts and act swiftly by rooting out the individual culprits if necessary. The PM tool is there to be used - it hasnt been.
I like my Learned Friend do not appreciate being labelled a bad fish or a perpetrator of harassment as she has done.
Dont worry Anu - I have no intention of reporting you.👍🏼

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