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Posted: 15 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Aeryn ...........so good to see u replying dear , I do watch it off and on . And i appreciate u understanding that I dont condone rape or enjoy seeing it .I wish merely to point out that CVS show Kesar being raped ....then why not show the one who really wud be in real life for being so foolhardy ?

Me I just keep myself updated with LUD but do watch the UK telecast epis somewhat regularly. I do because watching the characters' expressions and tone of voice help to better understand their motivations....So I'm still 3 weeks back but in no hurry to catch up -- have just watched some 'new epis' scenes which sounded interesting or were needed for me to better define my opinion....
I don't know why they only show Kesar being raped...Was this scene there because the next track will have Kesar being pregnant again in it?
Is Aarushi spared because CVs don't want prats to appear as a bad sister who didn't do anything or wasn't successful in saving her little sis? Is it just to glorify prats some more by telling us 'look prats is a great sister who despite the distateful way Aarushi behaved still was able to look over it, save her and forgive her? But then what about Kesar? Shouldn't the ever righteous pratigya be upset over the plight of the one she refers to as didi? That too a plight which was inflicted by her OWN! Shouldn't she be feeling shameful and vow to give justice to the one who really deserve it? Instead what we saw was a pratigya more work up over the fact that her little sis lost confidence in her, wasn't ready to listen to her words as truth and only truth than the plight of Kesar who had to witness her husband being snatch by her young sis!! How disgusting 🤢 I was really appalled by her attitude towards Kesar...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: lighthousepier

Kools,

I agree 100%. Why isn't Kesar being dragged to the police station by Pratigya to launch a complaint about the bigamy (its much easier to prove and she cannot simply claim to be mistaken later). You can bet if Shakti had married a different second wife the matter would not have rested.
In fact I would not even characterize Arushi sleeping with Shakti as punishment - she married him of her own free will and despite everyone else's protests. What did she think happened after you get married? Clearly none of the Sax siblings received the birds and the bees talk at home - because each one believes marriage for revenge minus sex with your spouse is an acceptable option (and none believed that a person who holds such views owes their spouse some kind of heads up signal about their intentions before getting to the mandap).
Kesar was raped because Arushi's virginity was kept intact!!! Despite the pain and humiliation involved her husband taking on a second wife she did not even get a reprieve in the bedroom. I have said it in another post - if Arushi is going to try and kill herself anyway the least she can do is sleep with Shakti first since she is the one who led him down this horny path.
Right now thanks to the sax siblings none of the Thakurs are getting any - except Khrishna when he is being a good little boy and learning his lessons nicely
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loved your post. The last line made me 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: starlight123


There is no hope in this serial for the Saxes to admit their mistakes as there is always some justification to their sufferings. Nor are they going the make Saxes learn something from uneducated people as the education class knows better. All his kids married for revenge and it goes to show that as a father he has not instilled any values into their kids. No one would want their child married into a family where they think marriage is a joke and game. Personally, they've made a mockery from the institution of marriage and for those who live through difficult marriages in reality, its a slap in the face.



Even Ekta Kapoor who shows everything from pre-marital affairs to extra marital affairs dares to does show that most people marry for some or the other positive reaon like love, compatibility, if it is an arranged marraiage then it is for getting a good bahu . In this drama marraige has been associated with negativity like anger, hatred, revenge.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Binny1247

According to me there should be consequences for Arushi;s actions not necessarily rape though in reality KN would have taken care of this by now but some sort of punishment for her rash decisions why should she get off scott free not only has she committed bigamy but has also ruined Kesar's life in the process !!!



I'd like to ask a question here... And I really dont know the answer to this:

Is it considered rape when a girl willingly marries a guy, but point blank refuses any intimacy with him? I understand Kesar's situation, coz she hasnt always refused Shakti, and when she did, he forced her. But Im confused about Arushi's situation.
Isnt it cruelty to the guy also to refuse to consummate the marriage even once? If he wants to, will that still be called an attempt to rape?

Im asking this question seriously, with no attempts at any sarcasm towards any character.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: elle45



I'd like to ask a question here... And I really dont know the answer to this:

Is it considered rape when a girl willingly marries a guy, but point blank refuses any intimacy with him? I understand Kesar's situation, coz she hasnt always refused Shakti, and when she did, he forced her. But Im confused about Arushi's situation.
Isnt it cruelty to the guy also to refuse to consummate the marriage even once? If he wants to, will that still be called an attempt to rape?

Im asking this question seriously, with no attempts at any sarcasm towards any character.



Elle nice question. in a marraige if the husband forces himself on an unwilling wife it is marital rape like in the case of Kesar but if she refuses to consummate for eternity then it is different case. Pratigya did the same thing married baba but denied any physical intimacy and when he tried to force himself on her . headlines said marital rape as it was not Prats perogative to look into the physical needs of Krishna as he forced the marriage upon her which i don't believe. But the same can't be said about Aarushi. She married Shakti out of choice and now she is trying to aviod any physical intimacies with Shakti(i really don't have time for such a t**ser) again ignoring other partners needs. Aadarsh did the same thing .I really don't understand the thought process behind this marraige for revenge or out of spitre. What do these Sucksena siblings think about marraiage just makes me wonder.

But coming to your question I believe physical intimacy is a very important aspect of a marraige and refusing to consummate marriage is evil. So if one partner wants it and the other is not ready to comply with it for eternity the best way out is divorce the person and find some one else. Infact on those grounds you can be granted divorce quite easily.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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damon ............ur so right . When Man forces himself on woman after marraige it is marital rape but what about women who step into marraige and deliberately refuse consummation ? What is the punishment for such deliberate teases ? Does Law provide any ? It seems to have become a fashion in serials nowdays .making men sleep on the couch .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: damon_biteme

Elle nice question. in a marraige if the husband forces himself on an unwilling wife it is marital rape like in the case of Kesar but if she refuses to consummate for eternity then it is different case. Pratigya did the same thing married baba but denied any physical intimacy and when he tried to force himself on her . headlines said marital rape as it was not Prats perogative to look into the physical needs of Krishna as he forced the marriage upon her which i don't believe. But the same can't be said about Aarushi. She married Shakti out of choice and now she is trying to aviod any physical intimacies with Shakti(i really don't have time for such a t**ser) again ignoring other partners needs. Aadarsh did the same thing .I really don't understand the thought process behind this marraige for revenge or out of spitre. What do these Sucksena siblings think about marraiage just makes me wonder.

But coming to your question I believe physical intimacy is a very important aspect of a marraige and refusing to consummate marriage is evil. So if one partner wants it and the other is not ready to comply with it for eternity the best way out is divorce the person and find some one else. Infact on those grounds you can be granted divorce quite easily.

Thanks for replying 😊 I agree completely with what you have written. I wonder why I never thought of Adarsh 😲 He's doing exactly the same thing with Komal. To me, it seems like they're mocking the institution on marriage. What is the need to marry if you are not at all attracted to the person you are marrying? If they like living this way, why spoil the other person's life, being in a loveless marriage? Poor Komal, she was better off at TN
I have a distant relative who did this, kind of. But she had a motive, within 2 weeks of the marriage, she got a divorce and married her boyfriend. 😲 Horrible, I know, but at least she didn't plan to spend all her life in a loveless marriage like the Saxena kids... 😡 Thier actions defy all logic.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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So.......................

we are back to jeeju from devarji.l I think as punishment she needs to write " devar" 1000 times on the blackboard at Pratigya's school

wow when the CVs choose to serve cr@p they do not do things in half measures do they? So two WHOLE MONTHS wasted on a plot that has no conclusion or purpose. She married, became a witch, dejected viewers, is now abandoning her sasural and her husband and the MORAL OF THE STORY - NOTHING. A BIG FAT NOTHING. no change in anyone's life. How purposeless and wasteful of all that reel time.

she says she does not have sahas anymore - really? was that sahas? I am sorry sahas is what kesar has and needs considering she is in a situation with limited practical choices. somebody who marches a married man to the alter is not running on sahas but some kind of mutated arrogance and foolish confidence. what you don't have any longer my lady is not sahas but good old sibling hatred. that is what you don't have anymore.

she has recognized her mistake - yipeeeeeeeeeeeee let us all party. let us break out the aged caskets of wine and feast for days. the blind woman has been healed.

pratigya's confidence in Krishna's passive existence in her life is so cemented now that she makes promises and commitments on his behalf (and seemingly contrary to his wishes) when she talks. First she took away his b@@ls and now she has taken away his voice. Don't worry krishna as long as you get sex you should not mind. thank god the camp shirts (if not the confidence and independent spirit) are back. seems the hair is improving too. well that's some progress.

Pratigya was always a hyprocite. Pooja Gaur's appeal and the chemistry of the leads allowed many diehard fans to ignore the blatant hypocrisy. her double standards, her hypocrisy, her foolishness is not new - the only difference is the number of diehard supporters seems to be fewer or less active. I think post honeymoon (with the romantic euphoria getting stale and dying down) the objective lens has come back and the hypocrisy is being seen for what it is


I wonder if at this minute Krishna has a sense of dejavu. I mean Pratigya married him and was so repulsed by him she would not let him touch her and now Arushi is doing the same. Does Krishna have an eerie sense of dejavu about what he heard today? I mean if it were not for TRPs the Cvs would have never shown Krishna and pratigya fall in love and consummate as it was misaligned with the original plot.
Edited by --Hope-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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great post kools..
said it all .. for the the biggest prick was the fact that a women who herself married her stalker to take revenge is expecting her sister to listen to her advice.. i mean cmon how many times in life will it happen that your stalker who u married to reform turns out to be a good man at heart living in a palace of criminals, loves you a lot and always supports you.. like .. never..
pratigya just got lucky and in real life not all girls will be ... i think thru arushi the CVs had a opportunity to showcase that.. that not all such marriages will end like kriyas.. but they blew it..
and whats this thing about virginity?? i am sick and tired of women being measured using tha yardstick... its high time that a show running in 2011 does away with it....



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallai

great post kools..

said it all .. for the the biggest prick was the fact that a women who herself married her stalker to take revenge is expecting her sister to listen to her advice.. i mean cmon how many times in life will it happen that your stalker who u married to reform turns out to be a good man at heart living in a palace of criminals, loves you a lot and always supports you.. like .. never..
pratigya just got lucky and in real life not all girls will be ... i think thru arushi the CVs had a opportunity to showcase that.. that not all such marriages will end like kriyas.. but they blew it..
and whats this thing about virginity?? i am sick and tired of women being measured using tha yardstick... its high time that a show running in 2011 does away with it....



completly agree with u...........men like krishna don't exist in real life who loves his wife soo deeply .............infact in reality goons like krishan won't control themselfs n whd have ended by raping the grl............than wat about d grl who married to humiliate that guy...............like pratigya did............this show is trying to show social issued but in a wrong manner...........in raelity the step which pratigya took can't ever b prove a inspiration for other grls who r facing eve teasing in ur society.............n now prats is shown forgiving arrushi's crime of bigmany just bz shez her sis............n she have to help her being a elder sister.................wat hyprocacy.........

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