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Posted: 14 years ago
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I have not watched yesterday's or today episode but ...
As much as I like and agree with the statement 'Shame on you Krishna', by pratigya - she has a long way to go before she can utter those words. She should first be able to make a reality check of her and her family members and say (or accept atleast) the following - 'Shame on you papa', 'Shame on you mummy', 'Shame on you Adarsh' and 'Shame on you Aarushi'.
Then it will be a true next level for us when she says 'Shame on you krishna'
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Posted: 14 years ago
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krishna is useless....the character is losing his charm
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Habeeba_d

He should start doing some type of work man, till when your going to be a useless guy doing avaragardi with friends. He doesnt do any type of work but has the ego of a superstar.



Hi Habeeba,

Kind of agreeing with your statement in red. But our hero and our superstar is kind of behaving like a sissy these days.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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dye may be u r forgetting,that many times pratigya also don'treply to their taunts.....she also remains silent many times..........wen s.s was scolding her 4 not giving royal treatment 2 arrushi as new DIL............bz she also knows that these thakurs r impossible.........same is with krishna............how can he every now n than keep saying in support of pratigya........bz he knows his words will not effect thakurs at all.....n he'll agin b taunted as joru ka gulam.........
secondly,if he was silent it dosn't mean that he was not gettign affected 4m all that nonsence 4m them............he scolded arrushi wen she also start taunting upon pratigya bz he didn't expect this 4m her...........just bz krishna is pratigya's hubby it doesn't mean that it's his duty 2 always speek up 4 her.spe wen it''ll not gonna work.n his all words n requets 2 not 2 speek rubbish things about her will go in waste.
krishna was not douting on her love...he was dishearted bz of his own families behaviour.........his words that 'i've no family no parents'...shows that he was sad bz of his parents attitude with him.......not bz he was doubting pratigya's love..........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Underlined. carisma, I understand your pov. I would do the same thing if somebody insulted my hubby. Ok coming to Kriya. I think their love for eachother is very different in nature.
Krishna has always been very obssesive about prats and hence his love for her is more passionate. Now Prats have hated him most of the time and have very recently started feeling the love for him. Her love is very subdued and controlled just like her character.
But today I think I agree with Dye that Krishna no way should have given them the opportunity to walk all over him. He should have walked away or said something. This is not a good sign for Kriya. As the protagonist I think the cvs wants Prats to handle this matter on her own. What do you think ? Did you see my petition post ? Its just a suggestion.
krishna leaving d dinner table will work 4 them.....i don't think so......even d situation will b more worst...........as wen pratigya will return they start taunting on her also............how much do we expect 4m krishna to say in support of pratigya..............he is also a human being who was hurt by his own families attitude towards him......at such time we expect that krishna shd have stand up n said in favour of pratigya....n spe wen it'll not work,these thakurs will never b stoped
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I believe that the reason K kept quiet during the entire taunting session was that there was nothing factually wrong with whatever the Thakurs were saying. He was showing his discomfiture by trying to get up but verbally I think he had nothing to speak. Tell me honestly, do you truly believe the charges made against P (from their perspective)were all unfounded?

This whiff of a rift between Kriya is a welcome relief because it atleast shows K has started thinking, albeit wrongly(?). The constant buffoonery, repititive dialogues, the 'rebel without a cause' act of Krishna's were a bit unpalatable to my taste.
Regarding P, I am not so optimistic. The Cvs have been irritatingly constant about maintaining P's obtuse way of thinking. Nothing's gonna change it! However K's
obduracy will force her to rethink about the direction her marital life is heading towards. At least that's what I am hoping for.
Keeping in mind P's nature, i wouldn't be too surprised if she decides to sit rt. outside KN's bedroom on her fav. sofa and try to prevent any hanky-panky.May be borrow GD's bell and shouting 'jaagte raho' all night long! Leaving K high and dry in their own bedroom. This opens up a world of possibilities.😉
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What a B**chfest that was!

Krishna's entire family - Amma, SS, Shaktiya, Komal and 🤬🤬 Arushi thrown in for good measure, sitting at the dining table cackling away having a cosy slap down session of Pratigya. They went on and on and on! 🤢 How long was that scene? It felt like hours! Krishna sitting there taking it all in, letting them poison his mind, letting them tell him his wife is an inadequate bahu and wife, letting them tell him she's a selfish monster, letting them tell him that his love is one sided, blind, spineless, feckless and weak.
Krishna sitting there EATING while all this was going on. 😲 It felt horrible. I felt like jumping in and packing a small potli for Kriya so they could leave at once! Live on footpaths for a year or so but not in that house for another night.

Now looks like he's going to let her down. Again.
What is Krishna's problem? If he wants Pratigya happy, he should put her in a Siddhartha like fortress where she can see no evil, hear no evil. And if he wants her not to confront his morally bankrupt family, he should TAKE HER OUT OF THERE. Which he doesn't have the guts to do.🤢
So? She's going to deal with problems her way. And that he doesn't like. She must acquire a set of blinders - ignore the whole world and look ONLY at him while he looks at her. Wah. What a super boring marriage. Why do we need a serial made on it?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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if krishna is to be blamed, then what about pratigya...........did she behave like a sanskaari bahu in the yesterday's episode...........no , not at all.................whatever the nature of her in-laws be it is her duty to go out of their house after asking their permission or even informing them................she didn't show slightest sanskaar and culture she is so busy upholding................ and amma pointed out all the right things about pratigya.............she never tried to be one of them, she was never a family member there.............krishna tries so hard to get the approval of sucksenas even though they insults him every time, but pratigya never tried to be among them, all she does is keep on disobeying them and their rules(this is what krishna will think)......................this is what every MIL and FIL will feel.............(lets forget amma and SS r faking) but to krishna's eyes this is the truth..............so no wonder he is getting angry.............and just look at the way she talked when she came back from her home..........as if nobody else exists in the world.............she just asked 'did u eat? ' as a mere formality and without waiting for an answer proceeded with her rantings..............if she has any concern for him she shouldn't have behaved like that..................she knows his nature, then why is she playing ignorant.................
Edited by dhakarn - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhakarn

if krishna is to be blamed, then what about pratigya...........did she behave like a sanskaari bahu in the yesterday's episode...........no , not at all.................whatever the nature of her in-laws be it is her duty to go out of their house after asking their permission or even informing them................she didn't show slightest sanskaar and culture she is so busy upholding................ and amma pointed out all the right things about pratigya.............she never tried to be one of them, she was never a family member there.............krishna tries so hard to get the approval of sucksenas even though they insults him every time, but pratigya never tried to be among them, all she does is keep on disobeying them and their rules(this is what krishna will think)......................this is what every MIL and FIL will feel.............(lets forget amma and SS r faking) but to krishna's eyes this is the truth..............so no wonder he is getting angry.............and just look at the way she talked when she came back from her home..........as if nobody else exists in the world.............she just asked 'did u eat? ' as a mere formality and without waiting for an answer proceeded with her rantings..............if she has any concern for him she shouldn't have behaved like that..................she knows his nature, then why is she playing ignorant.................




I know that people have diverse opinions however surprising they may be in a post-feminist era. I have highlighted some of the things said in the above post and added a few points. If these are really the things some of you believe -

  • That a woman is a wife first and a human being later and that she has to put her husbands comfort first andher duty towards all other human beings later, however urgent or dire their need maybe
  • That a woman needs to ask for permission before leaving the house
  • That a woman cannot behave with people as they deserve but must subjugate all her moral judgment if those people belong to her sasural - ie if your parents-in law are murderers it does not matter you must still try to get into their good books and sit around with them and make every effort to win their goodwill even by scrificing all your values
  • That trying to please your husband and his family even when they are cruel, criminal and morally corrupt is your duty and a woman does not have a right to exercise her higher moral, human and civic duty because she runs the risk of inconveniencing her husband who may like to demand her time 24/7.
  • That sanskaars are about how 'obedient' you are, how much you hover around your husband and MIL, that you wear a pallu over your head. That you never ask questions. That you sever all ties with your former life ie you make yourself helpless and friendless in case of need, which puts you firmly in the mercy of your inlaws but you do this because otherwise your husband will resent you and become sad.

If some of you still believe all this then you must look to Kesar and Aarushi to find perfect protagonists of your choice. They are the people who represent the type of womanhood you glorify. Amma too speaks of just such a woman.

But I must say, that however much of a regressive phase this serial is going through, at its core the show DOES NOT believe the above things but the OPPOSITE!

The show believes-
- That a woman is as much entitled to courtesy as a man.

- A woman has a right to an opinion, independent of her husband

- A woman has a right to feelings, beliefs, medical help, an environment of respect and non-abuse. And a woman has a right to expect this and fight for this

- That a woman has the right to relate with people as per the voice of her heart, morals and judgment and not as per the dictates of society. ie if she finds that her MIL is a murderess she may serve her food but reserves the right to not respect her in her heart.

- A woman is not a prisoner and does not need the "permission' of every person in the house to step out of the house. Informing for the sake of safety and courtesy is more than enough

- A WOMAN HAS A MIND AND A RIGHT TO HER MORAL VALUES AND THE RIGHT TO EXERCISE HER MORAL JUDGMENT

- For some women (as should be for all human beings, but is unfortunately not the case!) human values are ABOVE personal RELATIONSHIPS.

- Sometimes doing what is right is more important that the relatively petty concern of domestic bliss and keeping your OWN LITTLE BOAT from rocking.

-A woman has a right to expect a partner to be her mental and moral equal. If he is not and if he is unwilling to walk with her in the most important matters, she has the right to leave him behind however much anguish it may cause her.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dyehard




I know that people have diverse opinions however surprising they may be in a post-feminist era. I have highlighted some of the things said in the above post and added a few points. If these are really the things some of you believe -

  • That a woman is a wife first and a human being later and that she has to put her husbands comfort first andher duty towards all other human beings later, however urgent or dire their need maybe
  • That a woman needs to ask for permission before leaving the house
  • That a woman cannot behave with people as they deserve but must subjugate all her moral judgment if those people belong to her sasural - ie if your parents-in law are murderers it does not matter you must still try to get into their good books and sit around with them and make every effort to win their goodwill even by scrificing all your values
  • That trying to please your husband and his family even when they are cruel, criminal and morally corrupt is your duty and a woman does not have a right to exercise her higher moral, human and civic duty because she runs the risk of inconveniencing her husband who may like to demand her time 24/7.
  • That sanskaars are about how 'obedient' you are, how much you hover around your husband and MIL, that you wear a pallu over your head. That you never ask questions. That you sever all ties with your former life ie you make yourself helpless and friendless in case of need, which puts you firmly in the mercy of your inlaws but you do this because otherwise your husband will resent you and become sad.
did mu post give u these ideas.................i don't know but i meant none of it😊 seriously i am at a loss how u fathomed that i believe in such things.............when i specifically wrote this as the thoughts in the mind of krishna........


If some of you still believe all this then you must look to Kesar and Aarushi to find perfect protagonists of your choice. They are the people who represent the type of womanhood you glorify. Amma too speaks of just such a woman.

But I must say, that however much of a regressive phase this serial is going through, at its core the show DOES NOT believe the above things but the OPPOSITE!

The show believes-
- That a woman is as much entitled to courtesy as a man.

- A woman has a right to an opinion, independent of her husband

- A woman has a right to feelings, beliefs, medical help, an environment of respect and non-abuse. And a woman has a right to expect this and fight for this

- That a woman has the right to relate with people as per the voice of her heart, morals and judgment and not as per the dictates of society. ie if she finds that her MIL is a murderess she may serve her food but reserves the right to not respect her in her heart.

- A woman is not a prisoner and does not need the "permission' of every person in the house to step out of the house. Informing for the sake of safety and courtesy is more than enough

- A WOMAN HAS A MIND AND A RIGHT TO HER MORAL VALUES AND THE RIGHT TO EXERCISE HER MORAL JUDGMENT

- For some women (as should be for all human beings, but is unfortunately not the case!) human values are ABOVE personal RELATIONSHIPS.

- Sometimes doing what is right is more important that the relatively petty concern of domestic bliss and keeping your OWN LITTLE BOAT from rocking.

-A woman has a right to expect a partner to be her mental and moral equal. If he is not and if he is unwilling to walk with her in the most important matters, she has the right to leave him behind however much anguish it may cause her.

yes, the show believes in these things............but not compromising on the basic rules of behavior and manners and again why r u fathoming that i want pratigya to give them respect more than they deserve.........what i am talking is just mere courtesy to another human being especially if they r the masters of the house u r coming and going in, sleeping, eating and ofcourse working.......... but then u completely missed my point.......my post mostly revolves around krishna's point of view..........but u seem to have fathomed that its i who believe in such things as women is always slave and all other stuff



i wrote my post as seen from krishna's point of view...........but diagree with u on leaving ur in-laws house without atleast informing them, i mean informing them, not asking permission................let me just ask u a question ------- would any indian women leave their sasuraal without even informing their in-laws..........would they just go out and let them wonder where she has gone when they not find her in the house..........
would any indian women however progressive they might be step out of their in-laws house house without telling them u r going out when they r in the house.......... there is something called manners..........just bec the person in front of u don't care about any damn of u, would u refrain from doing ur due or duty.................

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