WOW krishna IS changing, little by little

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first of, hello friends. missed chatting with you all, especially with my girls limits, athena, and shruthi 😊sorry if i wasn't able to reply to anyone. you see, i was sick last week, and then i got better real quick, but then went on a vacation afterward. LOL. but i have kept up with pratigya's episodes, and now, here i am...anyways. so w/o further ado, let's move on to pratigya-the show now.

after watching some of the recent episodes, i have to say, krishna is one UNPREDICTABLE character, probably the most unpredictable character i have ever seen on indian television. but i am LIKING this sudden, surprising, "unpredictable" element about him. he IS improving, little by little, VERY LITTLE, but yes, there is improvement. i mean, first, i thought he was going to flip the shizzzzzz the very moment pratigya left, and FORCE HER TO COME BACK WITH HIM. and though, he did try, he nowhere was as forceful as i expected him to be, or else, i do believe pratigya would have given in eventually, and had gone back to him by now (i mean, that's what she did last time, didn't she...?). so it was definitely good that krishna didn't force her. second thing that surprised me, was in today's (june 7) episode; i mean, never, NEVER did i expect krishna to say, "ok, you wanna stay at your maayka, FINE, stay then!!!" 😲😲😲 and even though i was SHOCKED, i was HAPPPPPPYYYYYYYYY. THIS, is what i always wanted: for krishna to leave pratigya alone, and not force her. i was also happy with the fact that krishna kept quiet and didn't threaten pratigya after she said that, "but i'm not amma or bhabhi, and i will NOT tolerate any beatings." i really liked that he didn't say anything after that, and that to me, showed that krishna is maybe, just MAYBE, possibly understanding that, hitting your wife is NEVER the way to go. 👍🏼
now, with all that being said, i still want to stress the fact that, all this little change in him, is nearly NOT enough! if i had my way, and the show went exactly the way i wanted, then kriya would've gotten a divorce, NO MATTER HOW MUCH KRISHNA CHANGED!!! but, this is a show after all, and i'm not gonna have my way every time. obviously, krishna will be shown to change, and kriya will eventually reunite. but i hope their re-union isn't shown without some great consequences for krishna and his family. i want the makers of pratigya to eventually show SS, shakti, and krishna to be at least INCARCERATED, so that the message is sent to the REAL SS, shaktis, and krishnas of the world, that, such deplorable abuse against women and other heinous crimes will NOT be tolerated, and that, there definitely are some consequences, VERY HARSH CONSEQUENCES for these crimes!!!! i don't want the CTs to just show the thakur family change, and everything be hunky-dory after that, with the men getting everything they wanted..."changing their ways" is nearly not enough. THEY NEED TO BE SHOWN TO BE PUNISHED. after that, if the CTs show the family all united, then i can accept that.
who's with me...???

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hey hope ur health is okay now.....😃😳
coming to the episodes....we r really pissed of at the CVs now for introducing the doctor.....😡😡 it was completely unecessary..😡😡😡 they might have concentrated more on angad's return....
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hey hope ur health is okay now.....😃😳

coming to the episodes....we r really pissed of at the CVs now for introducing the doctor.....😡😡 it was completely unecessary..😡😡😡 they might have concentrated more on angad's return....



thanks, and yes, i'm totally fine now. 😊 i have to be, i have summer classes for college starting tomorrow. lol

moving on to pratigya...yes, i too was annoyed with the whole doctor intro for aarushi. i felt that was totally unnecessary; plus that doctor looks too old for aarushi, like almost borderline father-daughter age difference. lol. but you know what, i could care less about them, so i'll just let them not bother me much. lol
anyways, so what are your thoughts on my topic kaaash?
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thanks, and yes, i'm totally fine now. 😊 i have to be, i have summer classes for college starting tomorrow. lol

moving on to pratigya...yes, i too was annoyed with the whole doctor intro for aarushi. i felt that was totally unnecessary; plus that doctor looks too old for aarushi, like almost borderline father-daughter age difference. lol. but you know what, i could care less about them, so i'll just let them not bother me much. lol
anyways, so what are your thoughts on my topic kaaash?

well............as am a fan of krishna....u know....so...okay trying to be neutral....i want more chnages in him.....like to be lil softer and gentler......oviously i dnt want his passion and obsession to change....coz thats wat hooks me into him.....😆 ....i love his breaking thngs and cutting hands and all....i just LOVE THEM....😉😉😉bt ya...he shud try to be much more logical and practical....like he cnt see his family's faults...especially SS and amma's....just becoz they r his parents.....Angry the unworthy ones......... and he shud really teach them a lesson before prats comes back to him.....😊 bt as this show's gonna drag....Angry i dnt thnk this wud come any sooner...Angry
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Originally posted by: pricey28

first of, hello friends. missed chatting with you all, especially with my girls limits, athena, and shruthi 😊sorry if i wasn't able to reply to anyone. you see, i was sick last week, and then i got better real quick, but then went on a vacation afterward. LOL. but i have kept up with pratigya's episodes, and now, here i am...anyways. so w/o further ado, let's move on to pratigya-the show now.

after watching some of the recent episodes, i have to say, krishna is one UNPREDICTABLE character, probably the most unpredictable character i have ever seen on indian television. but i am LIKING this sudden, surprising, "unpredictable" element about him. he IS improving, little by little, VERY LITTLE, but yes, there is improvement. i mean, first, i thought he was going to flip the shizzzzzz the very moment pratigya left, and FORCE HER TO COME BACK WITH HIM. and though, he did try, he nowhere was as forceful as i expected him to be, or else, i do believe pratigya would have given in eventually, and had gone back to him by now (i mean, that's what she did last time, didn't she...?). so it was definitely good that krishna didn't force her. second thing that surprised me, was in today's (june 7) episode; i mean, never, NEVER did i expect krishna to say, "ok, you wanna stay at your maayka, FINE, stay then!!!" 😲😲😲 and even though i was SHOCKED, i was HAPPPPPPYYYYYYYYY. THIS, is what i always wanted: for krishna to leave pratigya alone, and not force her. i was also happy with the fact that krishna kept quiet and didn't threaten pratigya after she said that, "but i'm not amma or bhabhi, and i will NOT tolerate any beatings." i really liked that he didn't say anything after that, and that to me, showed that krishna is maybe, just MAYBE, possibly understanding that, hitting your wife is NEVER the way to go. 👍🏼
now, with all that being said, i still want to stress the fact that, all this little change in him, is nearly NOT enough! if i had my way, and the show went exactly the way i wanted, then kriya would've gotten a divorce, NO MATTER HOW MUCH KRISHNA CHANGED!!! but, this is a show after all, and i'm not gonna have my way every time. obviously, krishna will be shown to change, and kriya will eventually reunite. but i hope their re-union isn't shown without some great consequences for krishna and his family. i want the makers of pratigya to eventually show SS, shakti, and krishna to be at least INCARCERATED, so that the message is sent to the REAL SS, shaktis, and krishnas of the world, that, such deplorable abuse against women and other heinous crimes will NOT be tolerated, and that, there definitely are some consequences, VERY HARSH CONSEQUENCES for these crimes!!!! i don't want the CTs to just show the thakur family change, and everything be hunky-dory after that, with the men getting everything they wanted..."changing their ways" is nearly not enough. THEY NEED TO BE SHOWN TO BE PUNISHED. after that, if the CTs show the family all united, then i can accept that.
who's with me...???



Hope you are well now !! that vacation seems to have done wonder's to you 😃

after watching some of the recent episodes, i have to say, krishna is one UNPREDICTABLE character, probably the most unpredictable character i have ever seen on indian television. but i am LIKING this sudden, surprising, "unpredictable" element about him. he IS improving, little by little, VERY LITTLE, but yes, there is improvement. i mean, first, i thought he was going to flip the shizzzzzz the very moment pratigya left, and FORCE HER TO COME BACK WITH HIM. and though, he did try, he nowhere was as forceful as i expected him to be, or else, i do believe pratigya would have given in eventually, and had gone back to him by now (i mean, that's what she did last time,


There is a reason for that this time ..I would say Krishna was not successful bcos Pratigya has become stronger ,she is no longer a timid mouse ...now she is becoming equal ti Baba in stubbornness ,determination and when such Stubbornness is backed by a righteous fury ,then not only Baba but the whole Thakur Khandhan will have to bow before it ...and another added fact is Baba is aware that what he did was not appropriate [Note he still has not realised that wife beating is wrong ] ...So he is not able to bring the full force of HIS fury/passion to dominate Pratigya

in today's (june 7) episode; i mean, never, NEVER did i expect krishna to say, "ok, you wanna stay at your maayka, FINE, stay then!!!" 😲😲😲 and even though i was SHOCKED, i was HAPPPPPPYYYYYYYYY. THIS, is what i always wanted: for krishna to leave pratigya alone, and not force her.


Pricey , Krishna has not left Pratigya alone ..if such a thought exists in your head ,perish it !! 😊Krishna has retreated for the moment ...I am sure he will come up with a new game plan to woo her back ...

i want the makers of pratigya to eventually show SS, shakti, and krishna to be at least INCARCERATED, so that the message is sent to the REAL SS, shaktis, and krishnas of the world, that, such deplorable abuse against women and other heinous crimes will NOT be tolerated, and that, there definitely are some consequences, VERY HARSH CONSEQUENCES for these crimes!!!!



Agree with you as far as SSS goes but beg to differ in case of Krishna ...For Krishna has been blessed with a conscience [Slightly weak and vacillating now ,but still a conscience] ..and this conscience should punish him ...It should insult him ,mock him ,Goad him into being a better MAN and let me assure you the punishment meted out by one's conscience is much more severe and life lasting than any IPC Punishments

i was also happy with the fact that krishna kept quiet and didn't threaten pratigya after she said that, "but i'm not amma or bhabhi, and i will NOT tolerate any beatings." i really liked that he didn't say anything after that,


But Krishna has already realised that Prats is not Amma/Kesar ... he would mention this very fact when Kesar -Krishna will be having their heart-heart talk ...and his silence today is the acknowledgement of that fact .


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Whoa ,You are angry buzzing bee ...busy ...very busy bee ...am seeing you in all the threads ...WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ENERGY ??😛😉
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Hope you are well now !! that vacation seems to have done wonder's to you 😃

after watching some of the recent episodes, i have to say, krishna is one UNPREDICTABLE character, probably the most unpredictable character i have ever seen on indian television. but i am LIKING this sudden, surprising, "unpredictable" element about him. he IS improving, little by little, VERY LITTLE, but yes, there is improvement. i mean, first, i thought he was going to flip the shizzzzzz the very moment pratigya left, and FORCE HER TO COME BACK WITH HIM. and though, he did try, he nowhere was as forceful as i expected him to be, or else, i do believe pratigya would have given in eventually, and had gone back to him by now (i mean, that's what she did last time,


There is a reason for that this time ..I would say Krishna was not successful bcos Pratigya has become stronger ,she is no longer a timid mouse ...now she is becoming equal ti Baba in stubbornness ,determination and when such Stubbornness is backed by a righteous fury ,then not only Baba but the whole Thakur Khandhan will have to bow before it ...and another added fact is Baba is aware that what he did was not appropriate [Note he still has not realised that wife beating is wrong ] ...So he is not able to bring the full force of HIS fury/passion to dominate Pratigya

in today's (june 7) episode; i mean, never, NEVER did i expect krishna to say, "ok, you wanna stay at your maayka, FINE, stay then!!!" 😲😲😲 and even though i was SHOCKED, i was HAPPPPPPYYYYYYYYY. THIS, is what i always wanted: for krishna to leave pratigya alone, and not force her.


Pricey , Krishna has not left Pratigya alone ..if such a thought exists in your head ,perish it !! 😊Krishna has retreated for the moment ...I am sure he will come up with a new game plan to woo her back ...

i want the makers of pratigya to eventually show SS, shakti, and krishna to be at least INCARCERATED, so that the message is sent to the REAL SS, shaktis, and krishnas of the world, that, such deplorable abuse against women and other heinous crimes will NOT be tolerated, and that, there definitely are some consequences, VERY HARSH CONSEQUENCES for these crimes!!!!



Agree with you as far as SSS goes but beg to differ in case of Krishna ...For Krishna has been blessed with a conscience [Slightly weak and vacillating now ,but still a conscience] ..and this conscience should punish him ...It should insult him ,mock him ,Goad him into being a better MAN and let me assure you the punishment meted out by one's conscience is much more severe and life lasting than any IPC Punishments

i was also happy with the fact that krishna kept quiet and didn't threaten pratigya after she said that, "but i'm not amma or bhabhi, and i will NOT tolerate any beatings." i really liked that he didn't say anything after that,


But Krishna has already realised that Prats is not Amma/Kesar ... he would mention this very fact when Kesar -Krishna will be having their heart-heart talk ...and his silence today is the acknowledgement of that fact .




@blue: yes, pratigya has become stronger, but TBH, i don't think even this strength would've worked had krishna acted with her the way he acted last time. pratigya's weakness is her family, she can't take their pain and humiliation. so if krishna forced her to come back with him, using the same tactics he used last time, and made her family suffer and humiliated them, again, like last time, i do feel pratigya would've come back to him. but thank god krishna didn't act like that this time around, and this is why i am saying he is changing...plus, like you said, krishna feels something, he didn't feel last time, which is: he was at least of some fault. this time, he feels he was wrong for lying, he was wrong for something, whereas last time, he just became crazy, and couldn't think past anything aside from his objective: to "win" pratigya. and this feeling, is definitely helping him change, little by little. yes, i agree.

@red: well, i sooooo wished he HAD left her alone. but you know what, trying to "woo" her back, with his love, is not bad either. in fact, now that i think about it, i like that idea much better. and truly, the boy really doesn't need to do a lot to woo her. just do what most husbands do: be respectful towards your wife, don't beat her, don't threaten her, and definitely don't try to rape her, and pratigya will eventually come to love him. the rest of his qualities, are actually EXCELLENT qualities, that most husbands don't have. i can tell he does love her and can't live without her, and would never even fathom of cheating on her. if she lets him, i know he would be very caring towards her as well. he will even stand up for her, in front of HIS family. two things, most husbands do NOT do these days: remain faithful and stand up for their wives in front of family. BUT, there is a very big "but" here. like i said, he needs to be respectful, not be so brash about things, and pratigya will definitely love him as well. and honestly, these are the "easy" things. if he learns to do just those, like i said, the rest of his qualities are excellent qualities in a husband, that even i would want my future husband to have. and pratigya is a very good wife as well. she will take care of him, and his family, try to meet his every need, i am sure of that. i mean, she had already done most of it, even WHILE he was treating her like crap. so imagine how much she would do for him if he had actually treated her better...

@black: regardless, krishna still has committed some very HEINOUS and DISGUSTING crimes (yes, they are CRIMES), that i'm afraid, the punishment of feeling your own guilt, or the punishment of having your own conscience torture you, is NEARLY NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!! i mean, where do i begin...he has done some very DISGUSTING things both BEFORE and AFTER his marriage. so he MUST be incarcerated, in ADDITION to feeling the heat of his own guilt. and ONLY THEN will i feel satisfied, only then will i feel justice has been served. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, even a man who feels he's guilty. you feel guilty, well guess what, you do the crime, you do the time. its as simple as that. krishna merely feeling guilty, and leaving it at just that, will NOT be sufficient in fulfilling his debt to society, IMO. like i said, i could've let it go, but the things he's done both BEFORE and AFTER marriage are just too despicable IMO, to simply ignore if he just feels guilty about having committed them and changes.

@green: agreed.

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@blue: yes, pratigya has become stronger, but TBH, i don't think even this strength would've worked had krishna acted with her the way he acted last time. pratigya's weakness is her family, she can't take their pain and humiliation. so if krishna forced her to come back with him, using the same tactics he used last time, and made her family suffer and humiliated them, again, like last time, i do feel pratigya would've come back to him. but thank god krishna didn't act like that this time around, and this is why i am saying he is changing...plus, like you said, krishna feels something, he didn't feel last time, which is: he was at least of some fault. this time, he feels he was wrong for lying, he was wrong for something, whereas last time, he just became crazy, and couldn't think past anything aside from his objective: to "win" pratigya. and this feeling, is definitely helping him change, little by little. yes, i agree.

@red: well, i sooooo wished he HAD left her alone. but you know what, trying to "woo" her back, with his love, is not bad either. in fact, now that i think about it, i like that idea much better. and truly, the boy really doesn't need to do a lot to woo her. just do what most husbands do: be respectful towards your wife, don't beat her, don't threaten her, and definitely don't try to rape her, and pratigya will eventually come to love him. the rest of his qualities, are actually EXCELLENT qualities, that most husbands don't have. i can tell he does love her and can't live without her, and would never even fathom of cheating on her. if she lets him, i know he would be very caring towards her as well. he will even stand up for her, in front of HIS family. two things, most husbands do NOT do these days: remain faithful and stand up for their wives in front of family. BUT, there is a very big "but" here. like i said, he needs to be respectful, not be so brash about things, and pratigya will definitely love him as well. and honestly, these are the "easy" things. if he learns to do just those, like i said, the rest of his qualities are excellent qualities in a husband, that even i would want my future husband to have. and pratigya is a very good wife as well. she will take care of him, and his family, try to meet his every need, i am sure of that. i mean, she had already done most of it, even WHILE he was treating her like crap. so imagine how much she would do for him if he had actually treated her better...

@black: regardless, krishna still has committed some very HEINOUS and DISGUSTING crimes (yes, they are CRIMES), that i'm afraid, the punishment of feeling your own guilt, or the punishment of having your own conscience torture you, is NEARLY NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!! i mean, where do i begin...he has done some very DISGUSTING things both BEFORE and AFTER his marriage. so he MUST be incarcerated, in ADDITION to feeling the heat of his own guilt. and ONLY THEN will i feel satisfied, only then will i feel justice has been served. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, even a man who feels he's guilty. you feel guilty, well guess what, you do the crime, you do the time. its as simple as that. krishna merely feeling guilty, and leaving it at just that, will NOT be sufficient in fulfilling his debt to society, IMO. like i said, i could've let it go, but the things he's done both BEFORE and AFTER marriage are just too despicable IMO, to simply ignore if he just feels guilty about having committed them and changes.

@green: agreed.



@blue: yes, pratigya has become stronger, but TBH, i don't think even this strength would've worked had krishna acted with her the way he acted last time. pratigya's weakness is her family, she can't take their pain and humiliation. so if krishna forced her to come back with him, using the same tactics he used last time, and made her family suffer and humiliated them, again, like last time, i do feel pratigya would've come back to him. but thank god krishna didn't act like that this time around, and this is why i am saying he is changing...plus, like you said, krishna feels something, he didn't feel last time, which is: he was at least of some fault. this time, he feels he was wrong for lying, he was wrong for something, whereas last time, he just became crazy, and couldn't think past anything aside from his objective: to "win" pratigya. and this feeling, is definitely helping him change, little by little. yes, i agree.

No Pricey , This strength would have worked ,for this time she has her family to rally around her ...while the last time ,her fmly were intimidated by Krishna's ruthlessness,mania ......this time around they are not so easily cowed and sticking with their chin high. ...this then is the source of her continued spirit ...had Guruji or Adarsh held a different opinion ,then she would have succumbed by now to Krishna's frenzy ....and secondly Krishna knows that his family is not with him ,so this reality has kept him in check ,he knows any deewangee acts from his side will not be looked lovingly by SS .....THAT is the reason for his restraint !!

@black: regardless, krishna still has committed some very HEINOUS and DISGUSTING crimes (yes, they are CRIMES), that i'm afraid, the punishment of feeling your own guilt, or the punishment of having your own conscience torture you, is NEARLY NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!! i mean, where do i begin...he has done some very DISGUSTING things both BEFORE and AFTER his marriage. so he MUST be incarcerated, in ADDITION to feeling the heat of his own guilt. and ONLY THEN will i feel satisfied, only then will i feel justice has been served. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, even a man who feels he's guilty. you feel guilty, well guess what, you do the crime, you do the time. its as simple as that. krishna merely feeling guilty, and leaving it at just that, will NOT be sufficient in fulfilling his debt to society, IMO. like i said, i could've let it go, but the things he's done both BEFORE and AFTER marriage are just too despicable IMO, to simply ignore if he just feels guilty about having committed them and changes.


What is the purpose of Punishment ,Pricey ...to reform a human and to prevent the same crime from occurring again .....so if Krishna were to change ..would not that be his repentence ...

Tell me if you were adamant on Punishment ...You sentence him for 6 months or a year and after a year ,he serves his sentence without undergoing any change in his thoughts and he comes back with renewed anger and continues beating his wife again ,then what is the Use of punishment ?




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well............as am a fan of krishna....u know....so...okay trying to be neutral....i want more chnages in him.....like to be lil softer and gentler......oviously i dnt want his passion and obsession to change....coz thats wat hooks me into him.....😆 ....i love his breaking thngs and cutting hands and all....i just LOVE THEM....😉😉😉bt ya...he shud try to be much more logical and practical....like he cnt see his family's faults...especially SS and amma's....just becoz they r his parents.....😡 the unworthy ones......... and he shud really teach them a lesson before prats comes back to him.....😊 bt as this show's gonna drag....😡 i dnt thnk this wud come any sooner...😡



yeah, him realizing his family's fault in humiliating pratigya like that, would definitely be a plus point. but i'm not sure what lesson he could possibly teach his family...? having pratigya back in the thakur house, which WILL happen, i feel will be the biggest lesson taught for his family, as they REALLY DON'T WANT HER BACK. afterwards, krishna i'm sure will stand up for pratigya in front of his family, so my main concern isn't about his family. my main concern, as of now, is about krishna himself. and so far, slowly, VERY SLOWLY, but surely, he's been impressing me.
and like you kaash, i too find him missing pratigya and being kind of loss for words, not being able to express his feelings to her fully, (like in friday's episode), i too find all that verrrrry sweet😳 believe it or not, for the first time, i thought the kriya moments from friday episode was indeed very cute. and then when pratigya got food for him, and tried to make his coughing go away...i thought that was also very sweet. it gives you a sense of realization: "he is her husband after all". as harsh/tough as i am on krishna, i too probably would've done what pratigya had done, had i ever seen my husband in distress and/or hungry like that. no matter how much i hated my husband, as long as we were married, if i ever see my husband in distress, i would try to help him...its a feeling inside, that you can't help, can't ignore; it will ultimately outweigh that feeling of "hatred".

btw, i have to admit, i do NOT like krishna's self-harming ways though. i mean, he practically attempted suicide for her, TWICE. that is NOT healthy behavior IMO. a lot of people find such acts, as "crazy in love" but i find it just "crazy". there are other ways to express your love besides harming your self. krishna needs to be rational in that, i feel...

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