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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila



I wouldn't say that. Sure, soap operas or actors in them don't really matter here either but regular TV shows in series format are just as reputed as films. There's no such obvious hierarchy as is present in India. Good TV shows are always appreciated and actors from there do glide in back and forth between TV and films. For example, Charlie Hunnam, a series regular on a network show, Sons of Anarchy does both films and tv, Cumberbatch from Sherlock does both films and tv as well. And I'm sure there are many other such examples.



Of course shows like Breaking bad, Man Men TWD, VD have huge fan following but those actors rarely ever make it to mainstream hollywood and if they do they are unsuccessful. Just Look at Patrick Dempsey for example.

You are right tho it's not as bad as it's in Bollywood nothing ever is 😛, but that can also be because American shows are just really good unlike these indian soap operas.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh


But the easy transition between tv and films in American industry only came within the last decade-and-a-half or so. Back during Irrfan, SRK, Vidya Balan's time, their Hollywood counterparts were also in the same mindset. Move on from television to films.

I read a book written in the nineties recently which had some characters set in the entertainment industry. Anyway, cable television was mentioned as the lower rung. Whereas now, we know many cable series and dramas are praised and have high quality programming.

American and British programming moved forward, with films actors taking up television--starting with quality cable television, while Hindi entertainment moved backwards with the Kyun ki Saas format taking over the whole industry--giving no scope for a similar respect and transition to happen between films and television.



I won't deny that. Indian shows pre-Ekta reign were very good, on par with their Western counterparts. I think once the quality of the shows improve, the transition for Indian actors will be easier too. Doesn't the Indian version of 24 have a bunch of film actors? Hopefully, we will get many such shows so nobody senses the difference between film and tv actors. But for that, we first need producers to rope in good actors and take an initiative in producing quality shows.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dexterkilaila



I won't deny that. Indian shows pre-Ekta reign were very good, on par with their Western counterparts. I think once the quality of the shows improve, the transition for Indian actors will be easier too. Doesn't the Indian version of 24 have a bunch of film actors? Hopefully, we will get many such shows so nobody senses the difference between film and tv actors. But for that, we first need producers to rope in good actors and take an initiative in producing quality shows.


Sanjay Leela Bhansali used to produce the show 'Saraswatichandra', but unfortunately the execution was done very poorly.In the end he abruptly left the show. I still watch it, but only for the actress though.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dex and Robinaa, I think first a change in formats have to come about. 24 is a good start. Sony and YRF never gave their venture enough time. It's a shame because just 10 years prior to that, the format they used was what was standard. But instead of giving it some time to catch on again or at least appeal to a certain target, they gave up.

I don't really think they need seasonal format either. They can. But they can also just as well give dailies with a finite run. Or a weekly serial with a finite run. Basically, my dream would be a healthy mix...have a variety of options.

Even American television networks have been experimenting with limited run shows. And if not limited run, shorter season shows.

Saraswatichandra I knew would always be a disaster because SLB talked about how he wanted to go 1000 episodes at least.😆 And then of course there were all the other issues that plagued it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sophz


Of course shows like Breaking bad, Man Men TWD, VD have huge fan following but those actors rarely ever make it to mainstream hollywood and if they do they are unsuccessful. Just Look at Patrick Dempsey for example.

You are right tho it's not as bad as it's in Bollywood nothing ever is 😛, but that can also be because American shows are just really good unlike these indian soap operas.



There are quite a lot of American/British actors who've made it into mainstream Hollywood, for instance Breaking Bad's Aaron Paul has a number of big budget projects to his name, with him starring as either the main lead or one of the leads, Breaking Bad has definitely done wonders to his career. Granted not all have had success, for instance Wentworth Miller from Prison Break.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: likarsh

Dex and Robinaa, I think first a change in formats have to come about. 24 is a good start. Sony and YRF never gave their venture enough time. It's a shame because just 10 years prior to that, the format they used was what was standard. But instead of giving it some time to catch on again or at least appealing to a certain target, they gave up.


I don't really think they need seasonal format either. They can. But they can also just as well give dailies with a finite run. Or a weekly serial with a finite run. Basically, my dream would be a healthy mix...have a variety of options.

Even American television networks have been experimenting with limited run shows. And if not limited run, shorter season shows.

Saraswatichandra I knew would always be a disaster because SLB talked about how he wanted to go 1000 episodes at least.😆 And then of course there were all the other issues that plagued it.


I think shows with episodes twice a week and running for a few months work the best, because with daily soaps people will not care when they miss an episode kyunki episode wahi ke wahi reh jata hai.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I really think there are a lot of talented television actors out there that just don't get the opportunity. And it's really hard to do a Hindi soap and do anything else. It sucks up all your time and they go on forever.

A lot of it really boils down to connections and nepotism. Look at all the celebrities - Alia Bhatt, Varun Dhawan, Ranbir Kapoor, Kareena Kapoor and Karishma Kapoor (the whole Kapoor khandan basically), Kajol and Rani Mukherjee, Hrithik Roshan, Vivek Oberoi, Saif Ali Khan and Soha Ali Khan, Abhishek Bachchan, Raima Sen and Riya Sen, Twinkle and her sister, Arjun Kapoor, Sonam, Sonakshi Sinha, Tushar Kapoor, Shraddha Kapoor, the Deols, Zayed Khan. Star kids ftw!


Otherwise, you have the beauty pageant women - Zeenat Aman, Aishwarya Rai, Sushmita, Juhi, Dia Mirza, Priyanka, Lara, Neha Dhupia, Jaqueline, Sonal Chauhan, etc.


And finally the models. Deepika, Katrina, John, Bipasha, Anushka Sharma, Preity Zinta, Arjun Rampal, Dino.


Someone who clearly doesn't belong on the big screen like Uday Chopra can still get his father to make him a movie with a top actress like Priyanka Chopra and even get him a side role in the biggest Bollywood franchise. Uday Chopra wouldn't even work on Indian television. Yet, nepotism rules here.


Television gets a lot of flak for being unrealistic and OTT. But I don't think Bollywood can really point fingers. Look at some of the movies that work here - Prabhu Deva's incredibly sexist movies always work. One man punches a fist in the air and suddenly 10 men around him all leap into the air. We have ridiculous movies that work as well. And people will only show what works. There have been shows like Rishta.com, Seven, Mahi Way that tried to be different and didn't follow the saas-bahu formula. But they didn't work. So there's a supply for these "bad" shows and movies only because the demand exists.

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