Precap: Samrat, what an Ass! But yet I defend him

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Posted: 11 years ago
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So he goes and throws money on Trisha. Sure he will make some excuse and the family everyone will buy it, but both he and Trisha will know his intention behind it. Perhaps her parents will too. He's demeaning her outright, and he's acting like such an ass towards her.
If Urmi somehow ends up turning against Trisha, well she deserves the big shock that's coming her way regarding Samrat's ego and vanity and emotional unavailability.

This doesn't mean I hate or dislike Samrat the character. He's rude and arrogant, but as long as he's not being a jackass to Urmi, I am good. (This is the reason why even if it were Samrat/Trisha, I couldn't support them. Why in the world would someone like Trisha fall for Samrat after how he treats her? And also she wouldn't do that to her cousin. Do I wish the story were developed a bit differently and we could get Samrat/Trisha? Yes. Do I see the potential each time with them? Yes. But for me, Samrat/Trisha is limited to what could've been. Not what can become, considering how the story has played out).

While it is entirely possible that Samrat is doing all of this solely for "revenge" against Trisha and he has something cooking in his mind, I look at what's going on in another way. I think Samrat has been prepared for marriage both times he agreed to the marriage. Unlike other male leads in various shows, Samrat doesn't seem to be going into this thinking this will be some marriage in name only. He understands he's going to be married, Urmi is going to be his wife. Even after he agreed to the marriage again due to Trisha, I think Samrat still views this the same way as he did before. Perhaps maybe with a bit more attraction to Urmi due to their meetings.

Why do I think this? Because from the start, he's never hesitated to pick up Urmi's calls. We can assume they've even spoken on the phone times earlier as well, prior to when we were introduced to the characters--because Urmi wonders if she should call Samrat, but decides not to as it's too late.

Samrat also didn't deny the meeting at the temple. Yes, Ishaan took him there without his knowledge, and he tried to leave at first. But he gave in soon enough despite his meeting and work (even suggesting a coffee shop as the setting). Samrat met up with her and asked her what she wanted to talk about. And unlike some other earlier male leads, he didn't give some deathly stare to Ishaan when Ishaan quipped that a coffee shop wouldn't give him privacy.

So I think Samrat has always gone into it realizing that he's going to be getting into a marriage. The problem, however, is that he has some expectations and wants some meek, docile wife. And in many ways, Urmi does fit into his criteria--it's just that she also has her own streak and is not completely as he thinks or would like her to be. A true opposite of what he wants would be Trisha. Trisha would never make sure to always walk to the left of her husband as Urmi remembered to do at the temple. It was clear right then that Samrat was attracted to that traditional aspect of Urmi. Typical double-standard by some Indian maies: Not traditional himself, but is attracted to the traditional type as a wife for himself.

(Another example of difference between the two girls: Trisha was smart and made sure Urmi would listen in when Sashi came to visit, Urmi was going on about how wrong it would be. Trisha noticed the worried and tensed faces, and eavesdropped and found out about Samrat's refusing the marriage. Urmi probably wouldn't have eavesdropped on her own, like Trisha did.)

For all of Samrat's ego, the way he behaves with everyone, etc. He hasn't yet really behaved in a rude manner to Urmi. (Though this may change once he marries her, since everyone in the family seems to be victim to his harsh way of speaking--with the exception of his mother for whom he's more careful, but even with her he was strict in how he made her apologize.) And even more importantly, he has never really lied or hidden his nature from Urmi.

When she asked him about Trisha, he didn't lie or deny Trisha's account or even defend himself. He told Urmi he doesn't girl girls like Trisha who cause such a ruckus. He didn't lie about the Haldi, which Urmi realized and appreciated. And he doesn't lie or pretend or act like someone he's not.

I think both Urmi and Samrat are going in with different expectations, and both have had enough hints to let them know that they are going to be in for a surprise. But both choose to ignore it. Samrat more so because of his ego and whatever that made him want to prove Trisha wrong. Urmi, because she doesn't want to see it, and also because her family and Ishaan don't help matters. Her family hid Samrat's refusal and all that happened due to that, and Ishaan creates a false impression of Samrat as a romantic for Urmi

And while I'm at it, let me just say, Urmi's family are not any better than Samrat when it comes to some of their views of women and girls. I would say in some ways it may be worse. Trisha's parents I think would be more likely to allow their daughter to call off the marriage if she were in Urmi's place, but here they are careful not to overstep their bounds thus they go along with Urmi's family. Seeing the last three episodes, I realize Trisha's mother was right in stopping Trisha from revealing anything to Urmi, because no doubt the blame would go on Trisha by the rest of the family. And who knows if Urmi would believe her, rather than excuse Samrat.

From her immediate family, Urmi's brother and mother have more reservations, but even her mother didn't support her and told her to go up to her room when it came to an important decision about HER LIFE, HER MARRIAGE. They all chose to ignore Urmi's words about this transaction/dowry being wrong, and proceeded to figure out how to go ahead with the transaction--despite Urmi's wanting to have a say in it. Instead they told her she wouldn't have a say regarding her own wedding and marriage.

For this reason I love Samrat for shutting Urmi's father up when he kept trying to stop Shashi from apologizing and was going on about how he and his family should be the ones who are ashamed. Whatever underlying reasons Samrat may have had, at least he didn't let his mother's apology be half-ass, and he didn't allow his mother to escape acknowledging how wrong her actions were.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I want to make clear, the moment Samrat begins to be a jackass to his wife, is the time when I'm done. If he's planning on marrying her just for revenge, or for some plan he's cooked up, and then proceeds to treat her like crap--then I have no interest in rooting for this couple.
I suspect though that it will be more likely that Urmi will see he's reserved, a workaholic and not as emotionally available as she was expecting.

Their SR will probably be interrupted with a phone call and he attends to business and work matters. Then, afterwards, some thing will probably happen which delays the consummation (as it seems to the general rule for most serials).
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A good post.
I agree samrat has never been bad to urmi

He wants revenge

He is disgusting at the moment but I have faith that he will improve
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i too feel samrat is having no bad intentions with urmi .he was ready for marriage with any girl .urmi was no special for him .hes not considering marriage as something that changes life .for him one more member is added to his family and she will share his room and bed and something physical .thats all .his life will go on as usual .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I feel the love wen he looks at urmi nd she wud win him over..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhagyathara

i too feel samrat is having no bad intentions with urmi .he was ready for marriage with any girl .urmi was no special for him .hes not considering marriage as something that changes life .for him one more member is added to his family and she will share his room and bed and something physical .thats all .his life will go on as usual .


Exactly. And it's actually refreshing to see @bold. After all the serials where we see males not even interested in consummating their marriage, in reality they would be cheating, asexual, or gay.

If this is really going to be about how Urmi copes with the shock that hits her with her sassural, her husband and marriage life, the reality not heeding her expectations, it would be gutsy to show that they do consummate fairly early, rather than have them go on unconsummated. However, I'm not holding my breath. Something will happen and then we will have the ridiculous scenario of a married couple who are going to be living together for over a year without consummating, and neither she leaves nor he leaves her
Edited by likarsh - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey I completely agree..but I hope cvs nd channel dont make him typical nd neg nd plzz keep him real..the way some guys are...nd yes their is asociety where guys dont think of marriage as a big deal..its just a routine..for them..a wife whose there just as a caretaker nd for physical needs but they are brought up in such backgrounds tht they dont think they are wrong..I love this show but cvs shudnt spoil it by making sam neg thats wat I feel..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Liks, excellent post! ⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great Post Liks.

You are right in saying that Samrat is actually a "Rat" in his behaviour towards all.

And if he goes ahead and marries Urmi then I hope Umri shows that she does have a mind of her own and that she will not be bullied by him after marriage.

Samrat is going into this marriage expecting that no matter who he was marrying she is the lucky one to have him as a husband.

Sure he has not lied or hidden his true nature from Urmi but he has not completely shown his real ego and his true nature of "I get what I want and nobody questions me"
side of him because he has shown till now that he is two -faced in front of the family by pretending that all is fine when in reality he is angry and looking to show Trishna that
I can make this big life decision for the wrong reason just to prove her wrong.

My question is WHY. Who is Trishna after all to him to make a nice girl like Urmi to be used in such a manner.

The complete acquiesce of a girls family to the boys family just because they are the BOYS side has always puzzled me.
That part never seems to change in Indian Serials.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dolly, you should read my follow up post to this.
He is such an ass, man. Poor Trisha. I haven't watched today's yet.

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