There is no friendship here!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yesterday's episode was a viewer's delight. The first half had lots to chew on... as the plot thickens, Karan-Veera-Baldev dynamics with Ranvijay as the anchor surely promises to be an interesting track in Veera.

Karan- Yesterday was proof that he has his own selfish motives and Veera though a friend, is only a ladder to his ambitions in Pind. However, he also comes across as a person without sound moral instincts. He didn't say anything in Veera's support even once while she was being insulted. Why? Was it because he is spineless? Or because he didn't want to make matters worse by fighting and ending up in the villagers' bad books? Or getting thrown out? Any ways he decided it was best to take cover in Baldev's attempt to shield him. He further strengthened relationship with the same person who insulted his friend. A true concerned friend would have never gone back to that person. He himself agreed that his business is over anyone and that he can partner with any person who can help him achieve his goals. His friendship with both Veera and Baldev is need-based.

Veera- On the other hand, Veera is more concerned about Karan's insult and is ready to fight against Baldev for the same. That is how friends are. Unfortunately she has goodwill for the wrong person. The thought didn't cross her naive mind that her friend never stood up for her. For her Baldev is always in the wrong and this action has strengthened her perceptions about him manifolds... more so because he seemed to be a person who didn't respect her dignity; his earlier fight with the goons hidden from her. However, she blindly trusts her wrong friend over even Veerji's opinion.

Baldev- It is a delight to watch him. The character throws open so many doors for interpretation according to viewer perceptions! Is he simply a jerk who does not care for Veera, more concerned about the "gold mine" to achieve his dreams? Or is there any guilt? Concern? Anything? My point is that, if Baldev is an opportunistic man using Karan for personal means even if that means harming Veera, intentionally or otherwise... then it is surely because Karan allows him to. The two of them are hand in glove. At least Baldev does not hide behind a facade unlike Karan. The hand of friendship from both ends is for selfish motives.
What stood out for me yesterday was... after insulting Veera once, when the villagers started accusing her more, he looked subdued and guilty. He also gave a fleeting glance to Karan, probably expecting him to react, but Karan didn't and Baldev lowered his gaze. Then he looks guilty in front of Ranvi... asks Veera to go home without any argument. And finally, he spoke to Karan about Veera's insult, thinking that was the reason he was upset... but Karan was unfazed... instead he was all about himself. Baldev has realized that Karan does not care much about Veera. The mean machine that he is, he will surely use this to his advantage.

Ranvi- The anchor in this show. He gives an accusatory look to Karan. He knows that Karan is not a right friend. He might have helped Veera out of this situation...but as he himself told Baldev, he cannot stand Veera's insult. He will surely watch out for the reason... and the reason is not Baldev as what Veera thinks, its Karan---the friend who stayed mum!😊

Veera is very interesting these days. Good performances and nice writing. Kudos CVs! Can't wait for the track to proceed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A brilliant post I must say 👏

And I agree with every word of yours. You have pretty much voiced the opinions of most people on this forum.

Coming to Karan's character, he's one of the most annoying, spineless characters I've ever come across, he has no backbone to stand up against anyone, he's a people-pleaser. I never liked him from the very first episode where he made an entrance, like I thought it was really selfish or rather uncaring for him to make Veera place an apple on her head for him to shoot an arrow through. I think it was very symbolic, he's using Veera as a step-stool for his targets & goals, downright pathetic. And Ranvi's opinion on Karan, is correct, Veera should put her guard up around this guy, he is selfish and will be manipulative when the time comes, and to say Ranvi's opinion is an intuition would be wrong, Ranvi may seem all innocent, but he's smart, wise and mature for his age, he has come across the real Karan back in Delhi, where Karan had rudely dealt with him in the boys room. Also Karan being the coward he is didn't even apologise, and again used Veera to convince Ranvi.

Baldev is Baldev, he's an open book with many unread pages, and I'm glad he's been introduced to Karan's true motives, it's good that Baldev knows that Karan ain't here to catch up with his bestfriend, and maybe this will be a plus plus in the future if Veera and Baldev get paired together 😉

Ok so Veera annoys me, I just don't get how this girl could just turn a deaf ear towards her Veer ji, and heed no attention to what he has to say on Karan and why he says that. Like Veera, is begging for trouble, if you ask me. And she keeps lying to everyone how she only thinks of Karan as a friend when we all know she's already planned how many kids they're gonna have in the future 😡 And she keeps hating Baldev, like you said she only payed attention to what Baldev did to insult her in yesterday's episode but turned a blind eye to how Karan just kept mum, and let Baldev do the talking. I think Veera should realise that "Don't fear the honest enemy that attacks but the two-faced friend that hugs you" ... Baldev is more honest with her than Karan, Karan is being a two-faced brat.

And Ranvi is just perfect, he's what every guy should be like, and Veera should learn to take his word for it, and also get out of her teenage infatuation, the quicker the better ...

Thankyou for the lovely post! 😃
Edited by Add123 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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absolutely agree.. actually karan's character is creating a lot of havoc in the lives of these 3..
i feel that veera will soon be in for a heart break from him.. cos he is seriously not having any feelings for her and veera does.. and veera's fancy towards karan is not hiding away from eyes of anyone.. clearly baldev also can see it.. and i feel that karan will also betray baldev once his work is done in the pind.. anyways what has he got to with him and his friendship..
i actually cracked up when baldev brought ganna for karan..
and interesting precap too.. they are slowly unmasking gunjan's character too and her relation with ranvi..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Baldev paaji ka to kal bura haal tha...he looked like that,jo usne Gunjan ko kaha tha,"Muh ke bal gira hua lag raha tha"😆...pehle khud kabaada kiya,then he was stealing guilty glances at Karan,Veera,Ranvi and everyone else...Karan ka to chalo,he wants to use him for his purpose...but as far as Veera is concerned,i think usse sach me kharaab lag raha tha...but issi bahane ek aur chance mil gaya, VeeBa ka fight dekhne ka...kyunki Veera to Baldev ko chodegi nahi...
I think Baldev is the best person,to pull Veera down on planet Earth,cos he can show her the truth quite properly,unlike her brother,who sheilds her all the time and Ratan who always keeps a silent watch...and I also feel ki through him only will she come to know the truth about Karan and his motives,and through Ratan,the reality about life...There is a lot of scope for Ratan and Baldev...to show the face of reality to Veera...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Add123

A brilliant post I must say 👏


And I agree with every word of yours. You have pretty much voiced the opinions of most people on this forum.

Coming to Karan's character, he's one of the most annoying, spineless characters I've ever come across, he has no backbone to stand up against anyone, he's a people-pleaser. I never liked him from the very first episode where he made an entrance, like I thought it was really selfish or rather uncaring for him to make Veera place an apple on her head for him to shoot an arrow through. I think it was very symbolic, he's using Veera as a step-stool for his targets & goals, downright pathetic. And Ranvi's opinion on Karan, is correct, Veera should put her guard up around this guy, he is selfish and will be manipulative when the time comes, and to say Ranvi's opinion is an intuition would be wrong, Ranvi may seem all innocent, but he's smart, wise and mature for his age, he has come across the real Karan back in Delhi, where Karan had rudely dealt with him in the boys room. Also Karan being the coward he is didn't even apologise, and again used Veera to convince Ranvi.

Baldev is Baldev, he's an open book with many unread pages, and I'm glad he's been introduced to Karan's true motives, it's good that Baldev knows that Karan ain't here to catch up with his bestfriend, and maybe this will be a plus plus in the future if Veera and Baldev get paired together 😉

Ok so Veera annoys me, I just don't get how this girl could just turn a deaf ear towards her Veer ji, and heed no attention to what he has to say on Karan and why he says that. Like Veera, is begging for trouble, if you ask me. And she keeps lying to everyone how she only thinks of Karan as a friend when we all know she's already planned how many kids they're gonna have in the future 😡 And she keeps hating Baldev, like you said she only payed attention to what Baldev did to insult her in yesterday's episode but turned a blind eye to how Karan just kept mum, and let Baldev do the talking. I think Veera should realise that "Don't fear the honest enemy that attacks but the two-faced friend that hugs you" ... Baldev is more honest with her than Karan, Karan is being a two-faced brat.

And Ranvi is just perfect, he's what every guy should be like, and Veera should learn to take his word for it, and also get out of her teenage infatuation, the quicker the better ...

Thankyou for the lovely post! 😃



Agreed...and very good post😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree on the analysis on Karan. He really is as Ranvi says, someone who does not respect relationships. Baldev came on that roof not to insult Veera but to catch out an out of town troublemaker and a girl he was trying it on with. He had NO idea it was Veera and Karan. But when he saw that, he tried to put the blame on Veera, coz he wants to keep Karan on his good side!!


He is an opportunist and ambitious. But so is Karan. We see he has no really issue with Veera's insult, but more with that fact that the village might go against him and this will effect his business model!! He really is the pits and is no true friend to Veera at all. He would have stood up for her if he was!!


As for Ranvi... He is just superb!! Loved him in the scenes on the rooftop!!
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Add123

A brilliant post I must say 👏


And I agree with every word of yours. You have pretty much voiced the opinions of most people on this forum.

Coming to Karan's character, he's one of the most annoying, spineless characters I've ever come across, he has no backbone to stand up against anyone, he's a people-pleaser. I never liked him from the very first episode where he made an entrance, like I thought it was really selfish or rather uncaring for him to make Veera place an apple on her head for him to shoot an arrow through. I think it was very symbolic, he's using Veera as a step-stool for his targets & goals, downright pathetic. And Ranvi's opinion on Karan, is correct, Veera should put her guard up around this guy, he is selfish and will be manipulative when the time comes, and to say Ranvi's opinion is an intuition would be wrong, Ranvi may seem all innocent, but he's smart, wise and mature for his age, he has come across the real Karan back in Delhi, where Karan had rudely dealt with him in the boys room. Also Karan being the coward he is didn't even apologise, and again used Veera to convince Ranvi.

Baldev is Baldev, he's an open book with many unread pages, and I'm glad he's been introduced to Karan's true motives, it's good that Baldev knows that Karan ain't here to catch up with his bestfriend, and maybe this will be a plus plus in the future if Veera and Baldev get paired together 😉

Ok so Veera annoys me, I just don't get how this girl could just turn a deaf ear towards her Veer ji, and heed no attention to what he has to say on Karan and why he says that. Like Veera, is begging for trouble, if you ask me. And she keeps lying to everyone how she only thinks of Karan as a friend when we all know she's already planned how many kids they're gonna have in the future 😡 And she keeps hating Baldev, like you said she only payed attention to what Baldev did to insult her in yesterday's episode but turned a blind eye to how Karan just kept mum, and let Baldev do the talking. I think Veera should realise that "Don't fear the honest enemy that attacks but the two-faced friend that hugs you" ... Baldev is more honest with her than Karan, Karan is being a two-faced brat.

And Ranvi is just perfect, he's what every guy should be like, and Veera should learn to take his word for it, and also get out of her teenage infatuation, the quicker the better ...

Thankyou for the lovely post! 😃



Thank you so much. 🤗 You have very strong points.

@red- great observation, absolutely agreed 👏
You are right, Ranvi may seem to be an innocent simpleton but he isn't that naive. I am sure when the time comes he will do the needful and take care of everything. He may have decided to move past Delhi's episode with Karan for Veera's sake but he is not one to forget it altogether. He has dealt with people from a very young and is world wise to know that 'things cannot be taken as they seem to be'.

Yes, i was annoyed when Karan did not apologize to Ranvi but used Veera to wriggle out of the situation. He actually tried to hide his face with a towel standing right there in Ranvi's house. How shady? 🥱 Needless to say he forgot all about his mistake once the dinner was done and he was out of Ranvi's house!

"Don't fear the honest enemy that attacks but the two-faced friend that hugs you" ... the best line to sum up the whole thing👍🏼

Thank you so much for sharing your very valid thoughts.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: namratavyas

absolutely agree.. actually karan's character is creating a lot of havoc in the lives of these 3..

i feel that veera will soon be in for a heart break from him.. cos he is seriously not having any feelings for her and veera does.. and veera's fancy towards karan is not hiding away from eyes of anyone.. clearly baldev also can see it.. and i feel that karan will also betray baldev once his work is done in the pind.. anyways what has he got to with him and his friendship..
i actually cracked up when baldev brought ganna for karan..
and interesting precap too.. they are slowly unmasking gunjan's character too and her relation with ranvi..



I am eager to see how long will Karan and Baldev support each other. This equation will spice up the plot i am sure. I think Baldev will be the one to reveal Karan's true nature to Veera...intentionally or unintentionally.
bold- that cracked me up too 😆
The precap surely was interesting. I can't wait to see more of the real Gunjan. I think it will be this attitude of Ranvi that will make her more warm towards him and one day he will help her get over this obsession over NRI husband.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Baldev paaji ka to kal bura haal tha...he looked like that,jo usne Gunjan ko kaha tha,"Muh ke bal gira hua lag raha tha"😆...pehle khud kabaada kiya,then he was stealing guilty glances at Karan,Veera,Ranvi and everyone else...Karan ka to chalo,he wants to use him for his purpose...but as far as Veera is concerned,i think usse sach me kharaab lag raha tha...but issi bahane ek aur chance mil gaya, VeeBa ka fight dekhne ka...kyunki Veera to Baldev ko chodegi nahi...
I think Baldev is the best person,to pull Veera down on planet Earth,cos he can show her the truth quite properly,unlike her brother,who sheilds her all the time and Ratan who always keeps a silent watch...and I also feel ki through him only will she come to know the truth about Karan and his motives,and through Ratan,the reality about life...There is a lot of scope for Ratan and Baldev...to show the face of reality to Veera...



I noticed that Baldev even when he was insulting her did not over do it or use scathing remarks. He was all over the place emotionally unable o figure out if he were right or wrong... eventually he didn't entertain Veera's remarks to continue fighting on the terrace. Thankfully CVs didn't make the character look crass and cheap even with his cold irresponsible behavior.

@bold- Very good observation. I was thinking along similar lines.
Baldev might show her Karan's true face knowingly or unknowingly and Ratan will make her come out of her delusions thanks to her harsh behavior. But i think ultimately, the final call will be Ranvi's.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I agree on the analysis on Karan. He really is as Ranvi says, someone who does not respect relationships. Baldev came on that roof not to insult Veera but to catch out an out of town troublemaker and a girl he was trying it on with. He had NO idea it was Veera and Karan. But when he saw that, he tried to put the blame on Veera, coz he wants to keep Karan on his good side!!


He is an opportunist and ambitious. But so is Karan. We see he has no really issue with Veera's insult, but more with that fact that the village might go against him and this will effect his business model!! He really is the pits and is no true friend to Veera at all. He would have stood up for her if he was!!


As for Ranvi... He is just superb!! Loved him in the scenes on the rooftop!!



Indeed, Karan does not respect relationships. How apt was Ranvi?
Yes, Baldev certainly did that to keep Karan on his good side... something instantaneous his opportunistic brain cooked up in accordance with his "eklauta yaar banunga" gameplan 😆 Though i am glad that the CVs didn't make him crass... nor did they show him incessantly instigating the villagers even after Veera and Ranvi's protests. Had he instigated more, it would have certainly not harmed Ranvi in any way but that would have spoiled the character a bit for me.

Both Baldev and Karan have a friendship to achieve their own selfish motives. It will be interesting to see who steps back first and where this takes them.

Thank you for the reply.

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