Everybody is picking on Andy :(

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Guys, I am not Andy's fan but I strongly believe that whatever his group has done to him is an offence. Andy may have been wrong to touch Gauhar's personal garments and talk about them during task but you need to realize who forced him to take that avenue? Here is what I think based on that game changing nomination planning and plotting:
1. Kamya nad Appu initiated that Daal and Chicken nomination code language discussion.
2. Prats wanted to drink tea - meaning wanted people to nominate her.
3. When BB found it out and charged all 9 members guilty of planning nominations and asked housemates to come up with one name who was most active in that plot. One first round voting Appu lost it to Andy by 5 to 3 votes. (Arman did not vote because it would not make any difference.)
4. Kushal, Appu, gauhar, prats and Sangram reopened the topic and asked inmates to vote again and purposely voted out poor Andy.😡 very unfair. They made a group against Andy and worked against him.
5. BB played his cards and isolated Andy and exempted him from Dekha Andekha task. They also gave Andy a task to disturb them in order to take their reactions and cut their points.
6. Andy was upset with everybody for being unfair with him in voting process. Not only that Sangram told them a story of his village man who used to get beaten up every time even if it was not his fault. He compared that guy with Andy thus Andy became furious.
6. Any sensible, intelligent, honest and respectable human being would never tolerate this injustice.
7. What is the final outcome guys??? Kushal gone for good, a strong group has been broken into 3 groups.
8. Sangram, Appu and Kamya are dangerous people. They can not be anybody's friends.
9. Andy joined Armaan group for his safety and comfort.
10. Gauhar had to eat her words by returning to BB house. May be her contract says that if she voluntary leaves she will have to pay back her remunerations. 😆 Otherwise everybody will leave whenever they feel like.😆
11. Andy is a talented Guy with entertainment skills who also knows music. Given that he was born, raised and educated in London England, his knowledge of Hindi and Punjabi language is remarkable and appreciable. I was amazed to hear his Allu baree kararee song on Weekend ka wow. I mean the typical Punjabi words he used like Aryee (means sakhi or Sahelee) shows that he is in touch with his culture. He can also sing English songs with perfection.
12. Sangram is guilty of breaking his trust and using this innocent guy.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good one Jas.
What Andy did to Gauhar was wrong.
But then, even Gauhar didnt stand by him during the nominations. Infact it was she and Kushal who felt guilty for having chosen Appu and wanted a re-vote.

Now coming to Prats, if she really wanted to go, she would have voted for herself. But she didnt.

After the "dekha-undekha" task started, Gauhar, Kushal, sangram, Prats, Kamya, all sitting on the sofa, made fun of Andy. So it is ok for Gauhar to laugh and make fun of him in front of others but none can make fun of her (she makes such a big deal of being called "mummy" by Tanisha, which is not even a foul word, she gets offended for being made fun of flirting with Armaan, but her Highness can do anything).

And then Andy started. Now what he said to Prats ppl say is not right. Yesterday when I heard it again, I noted down in another post, what exactly Andy said and yes, there are various ways in which it could be interpreted. If u want to see filth in those words, you can draw that inference. Or, it could just be as simple as "what do u do other than party? U just party, party, party...do u do anything else at all?" Matlab, u just have fun all the time...r u capable of doing anything else? Maybe Andy meant it that way, but it finally sounded dirty to everyone.

Andy vs Gauhar - Flashing G's underwear and talking abt her vitals etc...not good at all. BB stopped him. Now this very G who talks abt her pride and dignity, we dont know if she stopped Andy herself (I dont think she did, because that's what she came to tell andy at the end of the task). If she didnt, and her pride was so important, why didnt she stop him then itself.? Task gaya bhaad mein!! And considering that BB himself stepped in, either they wud not have lost their points or even if they did, who cares!!!

G was also angry with Andy because he was constantly poking fun at Kushal. Ofcourse, G loves Kushal, so obviously, she must've been seething from inside.

G would definitely be upset abt Andy flashing her lingerie. But I'm pretty sure, she was also upset abt whatever was told to Kushal and everything put together, it went totally out of control.

She herself didnt stand by Andy and then proceeds to say, "during bad times, you know a person's true character". Very true! She exposed herself on Monday during nominations by ditching him, she made fun of him along with others during the task; she didnt nibhao her dosti, but she points a finger at Andy.

She has proved to be such a hypocrite, such a drama queen.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditi.g

Good one Jas.

What Andy did to Gauhar was wrong.
But then, even Gauhar didnt stand by him during the nominations. Infact it was she and Kushal who felt guilty for having chosen Appu and wanted a re-vote.

Now coming to Prats, if she really wanted to go, she would have voted for herself. But she didnt.

After the "dekha-undekha" task started, Gauhar, Kushal, sangram, Prats, Kamya, all sitting on the sofa, made fun of Andy. So it is ok for Gauhar to laugh and make fun of him in front of others but none can make fun of her (she makes such a big deal of being called "mummy" by Tanisha, which is not even a foul word, she gets offended for being made fun of flirting with Armaan, but her Highness can do anything).

And then Andy started. Now what he said to Prats ppl say is not right. Yesterday when I heard it again, I noted down in another post, what exactly Andy said and yes, there are various ways in which it could be interpreted. If u want to see filth in those words, you can draw that inference. Or, it could just be as simple as "what do u do other than party? U just party, party, party...do u do anything else at all?" Matlab, u just have fun all the time...r u capable of doing anything else? Maybe Andy meant it that way, but it finally sounded dirty to everyone.

Andy vs Gauhar - Flashing G's underwear and talking abt her vitals etc...not good at all. BB stopped him. Now this very G who talks abt her pride and dignity, we dont know if she stopped Andy herself (I dont think she did, because that's what she came to tell andy at the end of the task). If she didnt, and her pride was so important, why didnt she stop him then itself.? Task gaya bhaad mein!! And considering that BB himself stepped in, either they wud not have lost their points or even if they did, who cares!!!

G was also angry with Andy because he was constantly poking fun at Kushal. Ofcourse, G loves Kushal, so obviously, she must've been seething from inside.

G would definitely be upset abt Andy flashing her lingerie. But I'm pretty sure, she was also upset abt whatever was told to Kushal and everything put together, it went totally out of control.

She herself didnt stand by Andy and then proceeds to say, "during bad times, you know a person's true character". Very true! She exposed herself on Monday during nominations by ditching him, she made fun of him along with others during the task; she didnt nibhao her dosti, but she points a finger at Andy.

She has proved to be such a hypocrite, such a drama queen.

aditi ji, thanks for your valuable analysis.😊
Hypocrisy at its best. It is really painful to watch poor Andy being targeted and abused in this house. This Guy have been trying his best to bring us quality entertainment but housemates are pulling his legs every single day. It is amazing to watch what people can do to you just to make sure that they skip the nominations.
I feel that it is a waste of time to discuss G's behaviour because she is a total disgrace. I can't blame her upbringing or culture but may be she learnt these survival techniques in Bombay. I can understand that it is difficult to make money in acting or show business. But it is not our culture to cut somebody's throat or walk over them to get ahead in your career. Decency, honesty and human like qualities always pay off in a long run. If we can not feel pain and sympathy for others then we are worse than animals. That's what our culture, institutions, religions, teachers and parents teach us.
Kushal is a nice man but G continuously poisoned him by feeding contagious and selfish messages. He failed to use his own brain even Salman warned him a few days ago but he acted in bad faith thus paid the penalty.
No doubt about it that Andy's actions were highly inappropriate and objectionable but at the mean time we must not forget the circumstances which led to his aggressive behaviour flashing G's lingerie. We should not forget what Kushal did in other Tasks to Tanisha. Sangram had put 25 kgs on Asif's back. I mean they had set a precedent therefore Andy thought that it was all fair to do anything at the name of so called Task.
BB wanted to break this strong group as Tani -Arman had been isolated along with Elli. I think BB should have stopped Andy little early. Again BB always looking for drama and spice but this time situation became out of control.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes agree. It is this very group who set a precedent of doing whatever they please in the name of the game.
During angels vs. devils task, G was fair most of the time, however whenever it involved Asif, she just didnt care.
Andy made Asif sniff his underwear. Kushal pulled down Asif's pants. But our then captain G said, it's all part of the game and they are allowed to do it.
But none of these rules apply to her.

I believe Tanisha is the one who started creating a mess. Since when she moved to "Hell" her behaviour changed and since then, the house has become a mess.

After that, it was one united front against Armaan/Tanisha.

What Kushal did to G was bad. Tanisha also resorted to "violence" in BB terms. So yeah, maybe she shd have been evicted. But even during and after that incident, no one cared abt Tanisha. So where did the "respect for women" go then?

BB is a mischief maker. He creates situations such as this. Now, 8 wks after the moved into the house, we see everyone's true colors.

I used to like Andy a lot earlier, now I want to wait and watch (but I am glad he is regretful, unlike Kushal).

I think right now, I want Elli to win. But everyday situations change...so my opinions also vary :)




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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know one thing andy's intentions were not bad. And ofcourse I agree he was cheap but it does not mean he deserves slaps and should be hangged. The way kushal was holding his neck i was like what the hell? They were treating him like has commited some big crime like murder and rape.

Its all bcoz power was in wrong hand. Kushal was given power to name the person. But kushki wants gau in hand and appu in another hand and he himself was not ready to go. When u r a captain u should be fair. There was no need of second time voting to save appu. This is not daily soap where u have to sacrifice for others.

And for which reason he was super mad at andy? He himself proved that everything is fair in task.

And why should any keep quite as he is not here to win trophy od best brother. And why should he even care about gauhar who walked away with kushal when she thought bigboss doing injustice with kushal but same gauhar never said that I will also leave if u give andy's name. Thats the difference.

2 witches kamya and prats giving bhashan of women respect to andy same were calling tani bar girl that was fine but if its their turn thats injustice.

And when it was andy who was guilty so even munga appu also opened his mouth.
Appu said what how he would react if her sister was their in gauhar's place and completely supporting kushal and his attack on andy. But he never felt to put his sister at tanisha's place and never said what how he would react if someone call his sister kalank and many more names.

They r treating andy like bakra. Andy is second most important person for gauhar but she wants andy give first priority to her. Any1 coming and calling him hijda like he is not human being. And best part andy was not even given chance to say sorry. I know sorry wont change anything but he has guts to sorry unlike loser kushal who is feeling proud of himself.

He is a human being and makes mistakes doesnt mean hold his neck for small matter. He should be given chance to say sorry. Forgive him or not should be gauhar's decision. But he should say sorry.

But it all happened coz of power in wrong hand. If u select captain like kushal not to expect much. Captain's main motive should be mange everything and try to be atleast litle fair. But if it is kushal his motive is my pyar gau and my parivar appu should be safe and rest should go to hell. No1 is here to get out coz of kushki's pyar and parivar Andy was right why they always make him bali ka bakra and all those things were for his survival. He never mean to hurt gauhar so deeply. It was a genuine mistake.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aditi.g

Yes agree. It is this very group who set a precedent of doing whatever they please in the name of the game.

During angels vs. devils task, G was fair most of the time, however whenever it involved Asif, she just didnt care.
Andy made Asif sniff his underwear. Kushal pulled down Asif's pants. But our then captain G said, it's all part of the game and they are allowed to do it.
But none of these rules apply to her.

I believe Tanisha is the one who started creating a mess. Since when she moved to "Hell" her behaviour changed and since then, the house has become a mess.

After that, it was one united front against Armaan/Tanisha.

What Kushal did to G was bad. Tanisha also resorted to "violence" in BB terms. So yeah, maybe she shd have been evicted. But even during and after that incident, no one cared abt Tanisha. So where did the "respect for women" go then?

BB is a mischief maker. He creates situations such as this. Now, 8 wks after the moved into the house, we see everyone's true colors.

I used to like Andy a lot earlier, now I want to wait and watch (but I am glad he is regretful, unlike Kushal).

I think right now, I want Elli to win. But everyday situations change...so my opinions also vary :)




All the decency rules were broken during that task when G was a Captain. Andy forced Asif to sniff his underwear. As a matter of fact Andy got motivated doing that nasty stuff because captain did not stop him. He thought it was all fair as BB did not take any action against him. Now when he repeated his actions against Gauhar, they say that he doesn't respect women.😕
In my opinion Andy got carried away because everybody was thinking that his actions were very funny. He is smart guy and will improve his behaviour in coming episodes.😊

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