A&J should unite - Page 4

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Originally posted by: libsrocks

Anandi said Jagya is a good man and he respects women and everything but nowhere did she say he is better than Shiv or Shiv does not respect women...she made no context of Shiv...what Jagya did in past was long time back and lawyer asked her what kind of person is he not was...every man has flaws and mistakes...plz Anandi does love Shiv...if Shiv could tell only bad incident to trap Jagya than why cannot Anandi say only good things to save Jagya...what Jagya done in past is past and has no relation with this issue so it's no use to tell the whole Ramayana...the main flaw of Jagya is incapability to handle situations maturely which makes him and others land in disaster or else he is a good person and never meant hurt any women intentionally...yes i agree her words looked over exaggerated when she said ''kabhi nahi'' and ''suljha hua insaan'' but if it can save him from getting punished unnecessarily than nothing wrong...it's better to over exaggerate qualities of Jagya to court than to support Saanchi's fake drama

@theeps

Originally posted by: rohini55

@theeps

I agree with you. .

As I said, if tomorrow Saanchi reforms, will people celebrate her and applaud her and say forget what she did to J and Ganga and Anandi? I bet not.

Jagya has had an easy ride. Till date no one knows about his amnesia drama.

Originally posted by: stuti..

First, Anandi is orphan, then Anandi lied. So is reference point Shiv or bash Jagya? But as matter of fact she has not hid anything from Shiv. She moved on forgiving Jagya. She keeps in focus present and not past. She keeps in focus Jagya's present intent and a very present injustice getting perpetrated on him. So while she chose to not be vindictive, unlike her great Husband who too knew all those past rashes and present saves, she is much more compassionate than a liar which this analysis is forcefully conjecturing.

very well said stuti and as i see the reference point if undying love for Shiv and undying hatred for Jagya The TM's previous post and this one pretty much alike with same Jagya bashing For her Jagya marrying Ganga is unforgivable mistake but Shiv is doodh ka dhula hoa every time 😆

@TM

Your allegations and insinuations are wrong.

Did lawyer ask Anandi about the past? No!

He asked how IS Jagya and she answered as it is how IS.

What has Anandi never shared with Shiv? She shared everything with him. Whether it was about how she agreed for marriage, or her fears and pressures in getting intimate with him. She shared it all. She often tried to talk to him about Sanchi and this SaJa alliance too.

She told him truth of his sister recently. But he only got stunned and counter-accused her and left.

What has Anandi not done for Shiv? Has she not served his family? Has she not tolerated BS of people like Ira and Sanchi without complaining? Did she not sinle handedly find Shiv and save him in Kashmir?

All her dreams and plans be it of social work or something else she shares with him.

Here she was to support truth. It was not about supporting Jagya or supporting Shiv.

Even if lawyer opens up her past, still after recalling it, again she will add that Jagya has changed now.

Abetment to suicide and all are fake charges slapped by Shekhars against Jagya.

And if Shekhars were so honest then why would Sanchi wince? Why would Ira keep threatening and blackmailing Anandi? If you are right then you don't have to threaten others, do you?

Also if Jagya sucked so much then why the hell did Shekhars agree to take marriage proposal for Sanchi to him?

Weren't they happy till few weeks ago? They suddenly changed colours even after blasting him at refusal of engagement, after Sanchi's truth was revealed by Anandi - thinking how sensible he must be that he did not blame their daughter and took all brickbats himself!

Their charges were also fake. Was Jagya giving dreams and hopes to Sanchi? Romancing her? Did he give gifts or get physical? Did he any way play with her as Shekhars' lawyer alleged?

Just because Sanchi has created trouble it does not mean Anandi should leave Shiv or is not loyal to Shiv!

Anandi kept giving so much leeway to Shekhars. Tolerated so much of Sanchi. For Shiv only na!

She had asked Jagya to wait and let her talk to Sanchi even after hearing coffee shop convo. All this only for sake of loyalty to Shiv and his family.

She and Bhairon advised against court cases. Talks could have been better to clear misunderstandings. But Shekhars weren't willing to listen.

Anandi stayed silent and did not protest even as Shekhars humiliated and insulted Singhs left, right and centre. She has always remained silent even as they insult her or rub her past in her face.

All this silence and tolerance for him? For love and loyalty to Shiv and his family only!

Regarding Jagya's amnesia drama in past, Shiv knew about it. So why didn't he reveal it to all? Why didn't he punish him for it? Anandi was only obeying orders of DS. She was clearly not getting close to him herself!

If Anandi cared so much for Jagya only then she would have relented when DS and Jagya begged her at last juncture to call off marriage with Shiv and get back to Jagya! She would have rejoiced when Shiv himself refused marriage suddenly after Jagya's drama. She wouldn't have protested the way she did. She wouldn't have thrown that box of memories, gifts and trinkets during JaAn days in a river!

This case was mostly a gone case for Shekhars. It was flimsy from day one. Even if Anandi recalled his history, his present would still be there. And why the hell should she recall history when she is not asked to?!

She barely speaks against Sanchi even! Only calls her behaviour a little different or her lifestyle different. She has tried her best not to defame her.

Anandi-Jagya union would have only justified child marriage. It is never going to happen. They may share understanding or help each other. But their paths are different. And they remained different for a long time now. This time it is Sumitra and Sanchi who got their paths entangled.

Originally posted by: Skepblun

@TM

Your allegations and insinuations are wrong.

Did lawyer ask Anandi about the past? No!

He asked how IS Jagya and she answered as it is how IS.

What has Anandi never shared with Shiv? She shared everything with him. Whether it was about how she agreed for marriage, or her fears and pressures in getting intimate with him. She shared it all. She often tried to talk to him about Sanchi and this SaJa alliance too.

She told him truth of his sister recently. But he only got stunned and counter-accused her and left.

What has Anandi not done for Shiv? Has she not served his family? Has she not tolerated BS of people like Ira and Sanchi without complaining? Did she not sinle handedly find Shiv and save him in Kashmir?

All her dreams and plans be it of social work or something else she shares with him.

Here she was to support truth. It was not about supporting Jagya or supporting Shiv.

Even if lawyer opens up her past, still after recalling it, again she will add that Jagya has changed now.

Abetment to suicide and all are fake charges slapped by Shekhars against Jagya.

And if Shekhars were so honest then why would Sanchi wince? Why would Ira keep threatening and blackmailing Anandi? If you are right then you don't have to threaten others, do you?

Also if Jagya sucked so much then why the hell did Shekhars agree to take marriage proposal for Sanchi to him?

Weren't they happy till few weeks ago? They suddenly changed colours even after blasting him at refusal of engagement, after Sanchi's truth was revealed by Anandi - thinking how sensible he must be that he did not blame their daughter and took all brickbats himself!

Their charges were also fake. Was Jagya giving dreams and hopes to Sanchi? Romancing her? Did he give gifts or get physical? Did he any way play with her as Shekhars' lawyer alleged?

Just because Sanchi has created trouble it does not mean Anandi should leave Shiv or is not loyal to Shiv!

Anandi kept giving so much leeway to Shekhars. Tolerated so much of Sanchi. For Shiv only na!

She had asked Jagya to wait and let her talk to Sanchi even after hearing coffee shop convo. All this only for sake of loyalty to Shiv and his family.

She and Bhairon advised against court cases. Talks could have been better to clear misunderstandings. But Shekhars weren't willing to listen.

Anandi stayed silent and did not protest even as Shekhars humiliated and insulted Singhs left, right and centre. She has always remained silent even as they insult her or rub her past in her face.

All this silence and tolerance for him? For love and loyalty to Shiv and his family only!

Regarding Jagya's amnesia drama in past, Shiv knew about it. So why didn't he reveal it to all? Why didn't he punish him for it? Anandi was only obeying orders of DS. She was clearly not getting close to him herself!

If Anandi cared so much for Jagya only then she would have relented when DS and Jagya begged her at last juncture to call off marriage with Shiv and get back to Jagya! She would have rejoiced when Shiv himself refused marriage suddenly after Jagya's drama. She wouldn't have protested the way she did. She wouldn't have thrown that box of memories, gifts and trinkets during JaAn days in a river!

This case was mostly a gone case for Shekhars. It was flimsy from day one. Even if Anandi recalled his history, his present would still be there. And why the hell should she recall history when she is not asked to?!

She barely speaks against Sanchi even! Only calls her behaviour a little different or her lifestyle different. She has tried her best not to defame her.

Anandi-Jagya union would have only justified child marriage. It is never going to happen. They may share understanding or help each other. But their paths are different. And they remained different for a long time now. This time it is Sumitra and Sanchi who got their paths entangled.

I think it is upto PP to ask questions and prod further. Not Anandi to bare her past when NOT asked to.

Kabhi nahi may also mean "never" in the context of "now" or "now on". The Jagya of now will never do this...perhaps this is what CVs wanted to convey. Though it was twisted!

Anandi didn't see him as a womaniser even when he ditched her for Gauri. She thought it was happening due to child marriage.

That said, Anandi's statement happened to come at last juncture yesterday. She is still there in witness box. Let us first see what happens. How it proceeds.

Personally I am happy she did not allow anyone to use her or her past to resolve disputes in public and support their own case.

Originally posted by: Shinya

A very nice post... 👏

I fully agree with you. In the end, A-J will reunite which is the theme of this show...Kachhe umar ke pakke dhage

Can her relations with Shekhars be the same as it was in the pas after her testimony?

I would point out how SELFISH and egotistic Shiv and other Shekhars have been in this drama. Shiv didn't reveal Jagya's deeds when he was wrong and did not punish him. Why? Because he wanted to win over Anandi and Singhs? Why didn't he seek justice then?

Now when case concerns his sister, he decided to use Jagya's past, Anandi's and Gauri's past to strengthen his sister's case?!

Why? Because he suddenly had this tubelight brainwave that all girls need justice? Or because his ego was hurt?

Jagya wasn't cheating this time. He duly broke the engagement and left. Or are there any special legal or ceremonial ways of breaking engagement which he did not do?

After breaking engagement, whether he marries someone else, flies off to some different place or even jumps off a cliff - it's all his choice!

It would be more wrong if he was married or engaged to Sanchi still but went ahead filling maang of another girl.

If Jagya can't make a play of things. Then same applies to Sanchi and Shekhars. Koi khel nahi hai yeh. That you trash a person and say he always sucked, then suddenly say no he's great, let's convince him for marriage!

Even if Shekhars succeed in proving that Jagya was and will always be a jerk then how does it help them? Rather they are a laughing stock as to why they fixed marital alliance of their only girl with such a man!

Shekhars can bring anyone from Jagya's past or Shiv can reveal amnesia and other drama, but it will only make Kabra ask them more forcefully WHY they agreed to get Sanchi married to such a man and HOW did they think he had changed? Why were they silent on all this earlier? Were they now shouting only in frustration of hurt ego and error of judgement?

Shekhars can be easily counter-questioned that if Jagya did not change then HOW can anyone believe that Sanchi changed so soon?

BTW, people question Anandi on her statements. I wonder why NO ONE questions why Shiv did not tell all truths in detail still?! Does he also love Jagya? 😆 Why didn't he then tell of drama before marriage to Anandi?

Who is telling things in totality here? Did Shekhars tell how they said they'd keep their girl unmarried all her life than get her married to Jagya?!

This is all flimsy and stupid tamasha being done at behest of silly and hollow character like Sanchi!