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'Supernatural' Season 9 Spoilers:
Jeremy Carver Previews Dean's Past,
Ezekiel's Honesty & The
Winchesters' Future
The "Supernatural" Season 9
premiere left us with plenty of
questions (and cravings for spoilers)
about the episodes to come --
especially in regards to the enigmatic
Ezekiel (Tahmoh Penikett), and his
new status as Sam's (Jared
Padalecki) "angelic pacemaker."
Dean (Jensen Ackles) is currently
keeping Ezekiel's presence inside
Sam a secret from his younger
brother -- and from his original
angelic ally, Castiel (Misha Collins)
-- but on "Supernatural," secrets
don't stay buried for long.
HuffPost TV chatted with executive
producer Jeremy Carver about
Ezekiel's trustworthiness, Dean's
secret, and how the mythology will
be balanced between the demons,
angels and the Winchesters in
Season 9. Read on for that and much
more ahead of tonight's new episode,
"Devil May Care."
How much should we trust Ezekiel's
intentions at this point? I think he
seems like a pretty honorable guy, to
me. I think Ezekiel is a pretty
interesting character, and I don't see
any reason not to trust his
intentions.
Well, we're a suspicious bunch ...
[Laughs.] Yeah, as is warranted over
the course of the show. I think I'll let
what we've seen speak for itself.
I thought you guys did a great job of
resolving some of the long-standing
conflicts between Sam and Dean last
season, but obviously we've seen the
brothers keeping secrets from each
other many times before. Can you
talk about how this time around may
be different and whether the
character development last season is
going to inform how they resolve
their conflict this season? Well, I
think the quandary here is different
than we've seen in the past. It's
going to be very interesting, given the
way that they progressed last season
... and frankly, in this case, how Dean
is going to deal with this is very
much part of the episodes moving
forward.
How they deal with this becomes
very much a touchstone of how the
season progresses and forms up. I
know we've seen secrets before. And
yes, it's a secret, but I look at this,
even more importantly, as -- between
the moment in the church, and the
moment he allowed Ezekiel to
possess Sam -- two very big
decisions Dean has made that are
affecting not just the relationship, but
the mythology. That's what's really
driving not just part of the mythology
this year, but also it's a very big
weight on Dean, in the way that,
many times he's reacted to Sam's
actions or Sam's weaknesses in the
past, [but] this is pretty much all on
him. He very much feels the weight
of it.
Last season we saw Dean in
Purgatory and Sam dealing with the
trials along with the larger tablet arc.
This season appears to be driven by
the situation with the angels and the
various warring factions, at least
judging by the premiere -- which
admittedly isn't much to go on.
Would you say that the brothers are
going to be reacting to those threats,
primarily, or will there be more
personal motivations driving both
their arcs later on? Where the
premiere took on one aspect of what
we're dealing with this year, I think
from the get-go, I feel like I've been
saying things like "broken landscape,
and a wide array of characters, and
bad guys, and people rising to the
fore, and taking shots at the throne,"
as it were.
If you look at the first three episodes
of this season, by the end of Episode
3, you'll get a real good idea of the
wideness of the landscape this year,
because Episode 1 dealt mostly with
the angels, where [other] episodes
are going to look at the whole other
component that the boys are dealing
with here, and that's from the
demonic side of things. So you're
going to see a variety of arcs here,
not just in terms of the straight-up
myth, but in terms of the personal
arcs of the brothers, which will very
much factor in here. You're going to
see all of it, I think.
It seems like the first few episodes
are designed to allow Castiel to go
on a voyage of self-discovery
-- are we likely to see him back with
the boys on a more permanent basis
soon? Or is his entire arc more
separate this year? The short answer
is you're going to see all of it, but
it's all really, really keenly motivated
by Cas, in that we really wanted to
give him a chance to deal with what
he's dealing with. So we wanted
Castiel's character to really breathe,
and I don't find it any less intriguing,
or enjoyable, that he may have
separate journeys here and there. I
think certainly the character has
earned it, and I don't think it takes
anything away to have a character
who is so beloved and has been part
of the show so long to give him some
separate storylines to grow.
That said, the show orbits around the
Winchesters, so he's never far, and
he's never out of their thoughts, and
there's all kinds of crossing that
goes on. I can't go that much more
into it because there are very
specific reasons why he's either with
them or not with them this year, that
are deeply due to personal arcs
between the three of them.
What can you preview about the
episode that will flash back to the
brothers when they were younger
, especially how that story relates to
a "part of Dean that we didn't realize
existed"? I think, especially after nine
years, we all tend to put our brothers
and the various supporting
characters into certain boxes that we
tick off: "This is who they are, this is
how they would act," and I think any
time we can find a piece of the past
that maybe makes us look twice at
our characters, and maybe adds a
couple extra layers of complexity, is
always fun.
I can't go too much into it. I just
would say that ... I'm going all the
way back to Episode 1 of the series
-- as we've always seen Dean
Winchester, in terms of his approach
to the life, approach to the hunting, it
may not have always been that way.
You spoke at Comic-Con about
finding different aspects of the
characters' personalities that you
haven't yet showcased this season,
with the characters all asking "who
am I?" -- can you expand on that
specifically in regards to Sam and
Dean, since as you just touched on,
we feel like we know them pretty well
after eight seasons. Yeah, I think No.
1 is that episode I was just talking
about, looking at Dean's past. No. 2,
I think -- and again, it's a little too
early, and I'm really happy to talk to
you about it a little bit down the line
-- because some of these things
become more and more fleshed out
the deeper we go into this story of
this angel who's possessing Sam,
that provokes certain reactions and
actions from the brothers that really
delve into everything you're saying.
I think it's a bit too early to really
dive into it, but rest assured, you're
going to see ... frankly, we even saw
it in the first episode of this season,
in terms of Sam's views on dying,
and all these things, and the way the
voices in his head were speaking to
him. It's a slightly different thing than
we've seen before. We're only going
to be building on that as our
brothers, again, come to terms with
not just who they are and what they
want, but how they relate to each
other, moving forward. It's always at
the top of our list to keep on plowing
what feels earned but also new.
"Supernatural" airs Tuesdays at 9
p.m. ET on The CW.
here is the link
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4099790
Jeremy Carver Previews Dean's Past,
Ezekiel's Honesty & The
Winchesters' Future
The "Supernatural" Season 9
premiere left us with plenty of
questions (and cravings for spoilers)
about the episodes to come --
especially in regards to the enigmatic
Ezekiel (Tahmoh Penikett), and his
new status as Sam's (Jared
Padalecki) "angelic pacemaker."
Dean (Jensen Ackles) is currently
keeping Ezekiel's presence inside
Sam a secret from his younger
brother -- and from his original
angelic ally, Castiel (Misha Collins)
-- but on "Supernatural," secrets
don't stay buried for long.
HuffPost TV chatted with executive
producer Jeremy Carver about
Ezekiel's trustworthiness, Dean's
secret, and how the mythology will
be balanced between the demons,
angels and the Winchesters in
Season 9. Read on for that and much
more ahead of tonight's new episode,
"Devil May Care."
How much should we trust Ezekiel's
intentions at this point? I think he
seems like a pretty honorable guy, to
me. I think Ezekiel is a pretty
interesting character, and I don't see
any reason not to trust his
intentions.
Well, we're a suspicious bunch ...
[Laughs.] Yeah, as is warranted over
the course of the show. I think I'll let
what we've seen speak for itself.
I thought you guys did a great job of
resolving some of the long-standing
conflicts between Sam and Dean last
season, but obviously we've seen the
brothers keeping secrets from each
other many times before. Can you
talk about how this time around may
be different and whether the
character development last season is
going to inform how they resolve
their conflict this season? Well, I
think the quandary here is different
than we've seen in the past. It's
going to be very interesting, given the
way that they progressed last season
... and frankly, in this case, how Dean
is going to deal with this is very
much part of the episodes moving
forward.
How they deal with this becomes
very much a touchstone of how the
season progresses and forms up. I
know we've seen secrets before. And
yes, it's a secret, but I look at this,
even more importantly, as -- between
the moment in the church, and the
moment he allowed Ezekiel to
possess Sam -- two very big
decisions Dean has made that are
affecting not just the relationship, but
the mythology. That's what's really
driving not just part of the mythology
this year, but also it's a very big
weight on Dean, in the way that,
many times he's reacted to Sam's
actions or Sam's weaknesses in the
past, [but] this is pretty much all on
him. He very much feels the weight
of it.
Last season we saw Dean in
Purgatory and Sam dealing with the
trials along with the larger tablet arc.
This season appears to be driven by
the situation with the angels and the
various warring factions, at least
judging by the premiere -- which
admittedly isn't much to go on.
Would you say that the brothers are
going to be reacting to those threats,
primarily, or will there be more
personal motivations driving both
their arcs later on? Where the
premiere took on one aspect of what
we're dealing with this year, I think
from the get-go, I feel like I've been
saying things like "broken landscape,
and a wide array of characters, and
bad guys, and people rising to the
fore, and taking shots at the throne,"
as it were.
If you look at the first three episodes
of this season, by the end of Episode
3, you'll get a real good idea of the
wideness of the landscape this year,
because Episode 1 dealt mostly with
the angels, where [other] episodes
are going to look at the whole other
component that the boys are dealing
with here, and that's from the
demonic side of things. So you're
going to see a variety of arcs here,
not just in terms of the straight-up
myth, but in terms of the personal
arcs of the brothers, which will very
much factor in here. You're going to
see all of it, I think.
It seems like the first few episodes
are designed to allow Castiel to go
on a voyage of self-discovery
-- are we likely to see him back with
the boys on a more permanent basis
soon? Or is his entire arc more
separate this year? The short answer
is you're going to see all of it, but
it's all really, really keenly motivated
by Cas, in that we really wanted to
give him a chance to deal with what
he's dealing with. So we wanted
Castiel's character to really breathe,
and I don't find it any less intriguing,
or enjoyable, that he may have
separate journeys here and there. I
think certainly the character has
earned it, and I don't think it takes
anything away to have a character
who is so beloved and has been part
of the show so long to give him some
separate storylines to grow.
That said, the show orbits around the
Winchesters, so he's never far, and
he's never out of their thoughts, and
there's all kinds of crossing that
goes on. I can't go that much more
into it because there are very
specific reasons why he's either with
them or not with them this year, that
are deeply due to personal arcs
between the three of them.
What can you preview about the
episode that will flash back to the
brothers when they were younger
, especially how that story relates to
a "part of Dean that we didn't realize
existed"? I think, especially after nine
years, we all tend to put our brothers
and the various supporting
characters into certain boxes that we
tick off: "This is who they are, this is
how they would act," and I think any
time we can find a piece of the past
that maybe makes us look twice at
our characters, and maybe adds a
couple extra layers of complexity, is
always fun.
I can't go too much into it. I just
would say that ... I'm going all the
way back to Episode 1 of the series
-- as we've always seen Dean
Winchester, in terms of his approach
to the life, approach to the hunting, it
may not have always been that way.
You spoke at Comic-Con about
finding different aspects of the
characters' personalities that you
haven't yet showcased this season,
with the characters all asking "who
am I?" -- can you expand on that
specifically in regards to Sam and
Dean, since as you just touched on,
we feel like we know them pretty well
after eight seasons. Yeah, I think No.
1 is that episode I was just talking
about, looking at Dean's past. No. 2,
I think -- and again, it's a little too
early, and I'm really happy to talk to
you about it a little bit down the line
-- because some of these things
become more and more fleshed out
the deeper we go into this story of
this angel who's possessing Sam,
that provokes certain reactions and
actions from the brothers that really
delve into everything you're saying.
I think it's a bit too early to really
dive into it, but rest assured, you're
going to see ... frankly, we even saw
it in the first episode of this season,
in terms of Sam's views on dying,
and all these things, and the way the
voices in his head were speaking to
him. It's a slightly different thing than
we've seen before. We're only going
to be building on that as our
brothers, again, come to terms with
not just who they are and what they
want, but how they relate to each
other, moving forward. It's always at
the top of our list to keep on plowing
what feels earned but also new.
"Supernatural" airs Tuesdays at 9
p.m. ET on The CW.
here is the link
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4099790
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