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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: SPuja


Sugna did not get pregnant before marriage. She was already married to Pratap when she got pregnant. it is just that her parents, Basant and DS did not know that she goes to meet Pratap (Anandi, Jagya and Gahna knew).

Coming to "Baasi phool" it is such a derogatory word, that should never be used in this serial which is so preachy and brags about social messages. Somehow they always degrade women (mostly by other women) and never say such words for men. Patriarchy even in dialogues?


Sugna got married to Pratap in childhood but according to their customs she did not had GAUNA. GAUNA is a ceremony in which daughter officially goes to her sasra and she is not allowed to sleep with her husband before that ritual, as she stays in her parents home before that. Secondly, Anandi and Jagya were too young to understand what's cooking between Suguna and Pratap, it was Gehna who first realizes that Suguna is doing something wrong. I still remember it was rainy day when Suguna returns home all wet and Gehna caught her and gave her - her own lehnga so that she can protect her in front of Dadisa. Suguna slept with Pratap before her GAUNA.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#22
I want to know if Sumi thinks taaza phool grow a new hymen every night ?
Her son-in-laws have not complained about the lack of a hymen till now and neither is Jagya complaining. So why is Sumi so upset ?

Why is that hymen so all-important ? And specially to a person who is never going to need it in any way ? Why are Ds and Sumi so in love with Sanchi and Anandi ? Why do they automatically J has to the culprit if there is any tiff between Sanchi or Anandi and J is around ?

Was J an adopted child of Bhairon's secret first wife and we didn't know about it ? Coz Sumi hates J as much as she hates Ganga.

Am glad ds ans Sumi have pushed them out of badi Haveli and the Hospi.
these two are self-sufficient. They can go anywhere and find respectable jobs and live in a cute little apartment. I'm glad they'll be happy by themselves without having to see DS and Sumi's sulky faces on all meals at the dining table.

JG ought to have a good honeymoon. Thankyou Sumi and DS - for making this possible.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#23

As a viewer, I don't think I can ever forgive Sumitra for that comment. That was such a cheap comment...so disguisting and deplorable. But Sumitra of all people should've thought twice before directing such a comment towards Ganga...for reasons that you have already made.

Sumitra displays double standards and suffers from convenient amnesia. Her tongue is vile.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well People,
I can make out your anger on Sumitra's words. But please keep in mind that whatever she said is just practical. In real life I have heard much cheaper words from the mother-in-laws for a BAHU who is a divorcee.

Each person has his/her own mechanism to retaliate. Have we forgotten what Choti Maa said "HUME SHIV KE LIYE EKK NAYI NAVELI DULHAN LANA CHAHIYE" to demean Anandi regarding her past. Choti Maa was educated so she said the same thing in a much more sophisticated way.

I am not saying Choti Maa and Sumitra are right. They are wrong, totally wrong. However depending upon the scenario even the fairest of them all may shout at others in a dramatic and most insane way.

I am asking you all. How many of you would gladly accept a son-in-law or daughter-in-law who is a divorcee or widowed? That too if the news comes to us in a dramatic way!!

People like Sumitra and Ira are brainless; they show all their emotions in public. With education and exposure we learn to manipulate. However the basic human nature would remain the same 😊

I think under this scenario Jagdish should have prepared his family for the home-coming of Ganga and done the same thing (marrying her) in a much more graceful way. HE IS A DOCTOR and must know human emotions better.

He should have given time to each of them to grasp his next move 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Debbiee

Well People,

I can make out your anger on Sumitra's words. But please keep in mind that whatever she said is just practical. In real life I have heard much cheaper words from the mother-in-laws for a BAHU who is a divorcee.

Each person has his/her own mechanism to retaliate. Have we forgotten what Choti Maa said "HUME SHIV KE LIYE EKK NAYI NAVELI DULHAN LANA CHAHIYE" to demean Anandi regarding her past. Choti Maa was educated so she said the same thing in a much more sophisticated way.

I am not saying Choti Maa and Sumitra are right. They are wrong, totally wrong. However depending upon the scenario even the fairest of them all may shout at others in a dramatic and most insane way.

I am asking you all. How many of you would gladly accept a son-in-law or daughter-in-law who is a divorcee or widowed? That too if the news comes to us in a dramatic way!!

People like Sumitra and Ira are brainless; they show all their emotions in public. With education and exposure we learn to manipulate. However the basic human nature would remain the same 😊

I think under this scenario Jagdish should have prepared his family for the home-coming of Ganga and done the same thing (marrying her) in a much more graceful way. HE IS A DOCTOR and must know human emotions better.

He should have given time to each of them to grasp his next move 😊


I understand what you are saying is true that in most homes still divorcee or widows are not accepted with full heart. But things are changing now drastically and people are accepting divorcees and widows. So by representing women like this in a daily soap is not good for the society and it's like demotivating families who have accepted divorcees and widows. Also, here the situation is also different because Jagya is not marrying first time it's his third marriage. So if Jagya marries a divorcee that shouldn't be a problem for his family. He has given his explanation that why he didn't married Sanchi but Sumi and DS was not ready to understand. They just wanted virgin bahu. Jagya even don't have to give any explanation to his family as he said he loves Ganga not Sanchi. A person with a bitter experience in the past has full rights to choose his wife carefully and family should support him in this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sheenug


I understand what you are saying is true that in most homes still divorcee or widows are not accepted with full heart. But things are changing now drastically and people are accepting divorcees and widows. So by representing women like this in a daily soap is not good for the society and it's like demotivating families who have accepted divorcees and widows. Also, here the situation is also different because Jagya is not marrying first time it's his third marriage. So if Jagya marries a divorcee that shouldn't be a problem for his family. He has given his explanation that why he didn't married Sanchi but Sumi and DS was not ready to understand. They just wanted virgin bahu. Jagya even don't have to give any explanation to his family as he said he loves Ganga not Sanchi. A person with a bitter experience in the past has full rights to choose his wife carefully and family should support him in this.


You are right my friend that they are showing it wrong in a daily soap which would further affect people countrywide.

However I think it's all wrong since beginning.

As I already wrote in another thread that
"It's easy to fall for a girl and die for her; but very difficult to marry the same girl and spend rest of lives with her"

the chances of a happy and stable marriage is more (I insist only chances are more) when two people are from similar background. That's why in Hindu satra the parents of boy and girl are call "Samudi" abbreviated from "SAMA-DHI" or people of equal status.

Why they showed a fairy tale sort of wedding for Anandi?

Have anyone among us seen this kind of marriage in life? Is it practical?

When Anandi got married to Shiv after loads of hurdle many people were just praying that let the wedding complete without any further problems. However I was more concerned regarding the future as SANCHI NAMAK KIDA WAS GOING TO STAY WITH THEM for ever😡

Anandi should have further excelled in her career and got married to someone of equal status. Shivraj is a man who has never experienced loss of partner; how can he make out Anandi's mental state all the while?

Similarly Ganga could have done so. Or at least she could have been working at least for couple of years before thinking of remarriage. I think she might have done that herself. But scenarios forced Jagya to marry her in a dramatic way 😊

I understand that both Ganga and Jagya are divorcees. However there is a huge gap in their social status which would keep on coming between them from time to time. Be it Sumitra, Ira, village people but it would come and that's practical.

At the end of the day I think if love and trust are intact between a couple; they can surpass all hurdles in life. In case of Ansh also I am not sure whether the basic trust factor is hit 😊

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