Jodha Akbar 46-48: Will Jalal do a Mughal-e-Azam?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Folks,

Relax, this is not one my 3 pagers! I am not up to that as yet, so you are all safe for a bit😉.

This is to share with you a question that has been puzzling me since last night's precap, which showed Jalal throwing away his own shahi firman, when Jodha, driven to the wall and with no other option in sight, finally swallows her ego and goes to him to demand Motibai's life as her(Jodha's) due as per the firman.

This means, at first sight, that Jalal is not going to honour the firman. He might well say : You rejected it at first, you insulted me again by sending it back thru the messenger, and you told me even more insultingly when I personally brought it back that I could give you nothing you wanted. So why do you try and use that despised firman now? It is no longer valid.

(Sending it back thru a servant was unnecessary , impolite, and ill-advised on Jodha's part, especially after her mother's parting homily about obedience to her husband, but that is Jodha all over. After all, she listened to another such homily about the danger for Amer if she did not accept Jalal's gifts, and then came out and deliberately burnt the shaadi ka joda).

If that is so, where does it leave us? I feel strongly that the choice of the means for implementing the death penalty for Motibai , being walled in alive a la the mythical Anarkali, instead of being cleanly beheaded a la Anne Boleyn (Henry VIII's second wife, who was executed for treason, as was his fifth as well) is deliberate. It is meant to offer a loophole for escape for the condemned girl, even while maintained the faade of the sentence having been duly carried out. That is to say, exactly as Akbar did for Anarkali in Mughal-e-Azam.

Jalal is looking extremely angry when Jodha approaches him, and he might be totally disinclined to let Jodha have Motibai's death sentence set aside as matter of her right., whence his rejection of the firman.

But he is also disturbed about something that he feels is wrong about the case against Motibai. It is similar to the Malwa case, where he was sure in his own mind of Adham Khan's guilt, but was unable to prove it and thus had to let him off. It is because of this sense of unease that he goes personally to meet Motibai in the prison and tries to get at the truth, but her talk of hoping that he does not commit an injustice puts his back up in an instant. The Amer women seem to have a positive talent for being undiplomatic!

So, he might want to save her life, even if he cannot backtrack on his decision re: the death penalty; this is not like the last case with the little Hindu boy, and there is no way he can justify an about turn here. If so, he would want it done as an act of grace from himself, not as something Jodha can claim from him, after repeatedly snubbing and lecturing him about the firman, as a matter of right.

So, it is likely, in fact very likely unless the precap is as misleading as is the Balaji norm in the matter of precaps, that he will turn Jodha down flat, and still get Motibai off from behind the wall, and pack her off secretly to Amer.

The other option is that he has since discovered from other sources that Adham Khan is the guilty party, and so he lets Moti off without giving Jodha the satisfaction of having rescued her. Plus getting brownie points all round, including,hopefully, from Jodha as well, for being "a Daniel come to judgement" (apologies to Shakespeare and to Shylock!) This seems unlikely, as it would necessarily lead to Adham being executed (by defenestration) and it seems too early for that. But Jalal might find out that the dead man in the kitchen was not known to Motibai.

So, here is my little quiz for today, and I would request all those who read this to respond to it, with one liners at least - indicating the choice,

I somehow doubt if the manner of Motibai's rescue (that is sure, for if she is executed, the chances of Jalal and Jodha falling in love with be less than that of a snowflake in Hell) will be clear even at the end of today's episode: it might well be the cliffhanger for this weekend, like the chess match last weekend!

So how do you think that Motibai's life will be saved?

1) Will Jalal do a Mughal-e-Azam and rescue Motibai by stealth?

2) Will Jalal ascertain thru his own sources that Adham Khan is guilty or, on a different tack, that the dead man in the kitchen was not known to Motibai, and thus set aside her sentence?

3) Will Jalal simply honour his shahi firman, despite his initial rebuff to Jodha in the heat of anger?

If you can comment on the following, it will be even better!

(a) When will Jodha will get to know of this?

(b) When she doeshow will it affect her relationship with Jalal

Let us have some fun with this, and is the meantime, the Questions of the Day, and the Joke of the Day, and the Scene of the Day (in fact the last 3 days).

Questions of the Day:

-Why on earth does Jodha not tell Jalal that it is impossible for a man like the dead chap, clearly of the servant class, to be able to write, and that too so impeccably, and on such a classy piece of silken fabric? It is so ridiculous that when neither Jalal - who could not have written it himself!😉 - nor Jodha raised this point, it made me think very poorly of their IQ.

- Why does Jodha leave the terrified Motibai alone with the poisonous Mahaam Anga? If she had insisted on staying, there was nothing Mahaam could have done. It was unbelievably stupid of her.

Joke of the Day: The Shahenshah-e-Hind storming thru the harem at the dead of night, shamsheer in hand, to catch an intruder. When Jalal's short fuse explodes, he is exactly like the Energiser Bunny- all action and no sense😉.

Scene of the Day: Mahaam Anga's chillingly sadistic account of the likely manner of Motibai's death behind the wall. It made my skin crawl. She plays Jodha, who should have sent her packing after the first sentence, like a violin. But why the devil is Jodha so lost to all sense of self-respect that she actually asks that old witch why she is hurting her, Jodha, so much?

Motibai was also excellent in her blind panic. My heart went out to her.

Lastly, the proceedings of this week should, hopefully, have brought it home to Jodha that when the chips are down, the only one who can be of any help to her is her husband.

Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Aunty jee ... did i miss you... all of us i guess

thanks for the update .. i completely agree with you that this particular precap is really misleading considering the fact tht it is EK and also we have seen a few not being consistent with the actual drama...

I am also of the same opinion as u r tht jalal would n ideally should not give jodha either the credit or the satisfaction for saving moti's life ... now how tht would happen remains to be seen...

but i thought of another way n even posted it .. may be moti bai is saved by fate n AK escapes again as there is no evidence against him ... it could happen :-

u see resham , kills a shepherd ...n takes him to the kitchen ...wat if his wife comes to shenshah asking or plea for her husband's disappearance n then it is revealed tht he never knew where the palace is .. let alone the harem .. n also he is happily married with KIDS ...😉...

so then it would be proved tht he did nt come to meet moti ... n since there would be no proof against AK ... he would also not be accused ,,, n moti bai would also be released on the pretext of no proper evidence ... n it would be clear tht some one has framed her .. only JO would know who ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes, Kashi, but where is your choice???

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ginco

Aunty jee ... did i miss you... all of us i guess

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I missed ur posts, welcome back, I think it will be option 2! Will on later, got 2 go
-gargi
Edited by veil_of_roses - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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So how do you think that Motibais life will be saved?

1) Will Jalal do a Mughal-e-Azam and rescue Motibai by stealth?

2) Will Jalal ascertain thru his own sources that Adham Khan is guilty or, on a different tack, that the dead man in the kitchen was not known to Motibai, and thus set aside her sentence?

3) Will Jalal simply honour his shahi firman, despite his initial rebuff to Jodha in the heat of anger?


1. wow.. didn't realise that Jalal could send Moti stealthily off to Amer while in Agra she would be dead for all. If he takes that then Jodha needs to be part of the plan too .. But does that mean Moti bai's role in agra is over??.. doesn't seem like it though..Jodha would be left alone there then 😕


2. If Jalal gets proof against Adham Khan.. dunno how he will be saved by anyone.. and the time has not yet come for Adham to die.. 😕


3. Very much possible that Jalal will honor the farman.. as farman is also Badshah's words which can't be backtracked.. But then Moti's innocence won't be proven still.. she will have to be proven innocent at some point.. or it will only happen when AK/MA are caught at the much later date?? 😕


PS: Glad to see u posting again aunty 🤗

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kashi,

@blue
is splendid!👏 If the CVs do not take this option, they would have missed out on a perfect twist!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ginco

Aunty jee ... did i miss you... all of us i guess

thanks for the update .. i completely agree with you that this particular precap is really misleading considering the fact tht it is EK and also we have seen a few not being consistent with the actual drama...

I am also of the same opinion as u r tht jalal would n ideally should not give jodha either the credit or the satisfaction for saving moti's life ... now how tht would happen remains to be seen...

but i thought of another way n even posted it .. may be moti bai is saved by fate n AK escapes again as there is no evidence against him ... it could happen :-

u see resham , kills a shepherd ...n takes him to the kitchen ...wat if his wife comes to shenshah asking or plea for her husband's disappearance n then it is revealed tht he never knew where the palace is .. let alone the harem .. n also he is happily married with KIDS ...😉...


so then it would be proved tht he did nt come to meet moti ... n since there would be no proof against AK ... he would also not be accused ,,, n moti bai would also be released on the pretext of no proper evidence ... n it would be clear tht some one has framed her .. only JO would know who ...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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i must agree tht i was so excited to see your post tht i got onto writing my opinion.. now as far as the choice i would definitely go for second one ...

because it seems the best n quite logical .. gar Ak ke aginst proof nahi hai toh he is not guilty n same goes for moti ... where jalal finds out n( probably in whole darbar .. in front of everyone) tht moti ke against bhi jo evidence tha .. that is no longer valid n someone has tried to play a trick ... then he would let her free... n order for investigations to be carried out ..

this would definitely make jodha aware tht he did follow law .. n did not let any injustice happen ...
this may not soften things a lot ... but at least one quality into jalal's scoreboard... ( which is wat the shenshan deserves , after all the hateful treatment he has been subjected to by jodha ...

but the plus point would be moti , describing how he came to meet her twice ... this should really stay with jodha n appeal to her dumb mind so much so tht she should go n thank jalal for this act of his ...( which is too far fetched it seems , but tht is wat should happen ideally )
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First of all, How are you now???And how your Health is?? I am glad you took a Break! Just because it would give you a rest, or else I wouldn't want one. And I hope you did took Rest!!!And I missed you a lot, I felt a daily essential missing in my routine.
Fabulous Post again Aunty, Welcome Back
First coming to your Questions

1) Will Jalal do a Mughal-e-Azam and rescue Motibai by stealth?

I guess Yes!! He would first throw away that Farman, but couldn't see Jodha like that na! So will secretly let Moti out.
But I don't want him to send Moti back to Amer, I want Moti to be with Jodha, as she is her support other than Hamida Banu and Shehen Shah himself, not knowing.
And the only one Female Ameri!!!

2) Will Jalal ascertain thru his own sources that Adham Khan is guilty or, on a different tack, that the dead man in the kitchen was not known to Motibai, and thus set aside her sentence?

I can't garuntee it, But I would Love if it happens, I am sure Adham Khan would not be cathced Guilty maybe just a few feelings that Adham needs to be checked.
But Finding Moti innocent is what I am with, I want Jalal to know that Moti is innocent that will keep hi word too, though Farman is also his Zubaan.

3) Will Jalal simply honour his shahi firman, despite his initial rebuff to Jodha in the heat of anger?
Very Less chances, But Hamida said Jalal is usoolo ka pakka, If this happens, it would be certainly not infront of Jodha but a short time after that.

If you can comment on the following, it will be even better!

(a) When will Jodha will get to know of this? Maybe she will not get to know, But I want her to know that. And I am a bit certain she will be not Grateful same as when Shehen Shah granted her wishes, aceepted to Lie infront of his parents, she will be her ususla iske-peeche-ShehenShah-kichaal-hai mode
But I want her to know this and not act like she did before, iske peeche koyi chaal hai, I wan ther to give a thought and ponder that maybe Jalal is not that Jallad! I would LOVE that!
If she gets to know, I think Moti will come running to her and after Hugging, crying session when asked she will reveal that Shehen Shah took her out of there, And I pray Jodha shows a bit of Gratitude.

(b) When she does how will it affect her relationship with Jalal

I think "Jalal the Jallad" thing in her mind will lessen, She will not act that Alien to him, and maybe she will ponder over this, Wondering does Jalal have a heart? or maybe he is not that Kroor!!
This will certainly progress their Relationship
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This Framing Moti thing is completely out of Logic, Can't Jodha point out that, as stated in the so called lover's letter, he wanted Moti out of suspision, so if he wanted that " Why would he write a letter adressed to her at the last moment??" This will certainly trap Moti. Can't Jodha point this out, Or even Jalal didn't gave it a thought, No one in the entire Harem thoguht this.
Do they have No IQ? It seems so
And Moti's fright act was commendable, applaudable It took my Heart. Seeing that I was really worried about Moti, like this was real or Moti was my Favourite close Baandi.
Rest I hope Moti is saved, or else I will be not able to bear it and even Jalal should then forgot Jodha 'Love'
One thing: Why they always show cliffhangers on friday?? Silly! I know but this time it's a real one, The last time, Chess one was know that Jodha will Win without spoilers, but this time it's really hard to think what will ahppen and more tough is to think How??
Edited by ApurvaLovesARVI - 12 years ago
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Thanks for the post Aunty..had been waiting for this.. 😊

The running around the harem was hilarious.. I don't understand why Moti doesn't scream when he is following her.

As for Jalal rescuing her stealthily... They may show that but then how will our dear Jodha know that she has not been executed.. I don't think he thinks that Moti is innocent. He may not further investigate either.

He will ultimately accept the shaahi farmaan in my opinion.

That man killing himself in the harem with the letter doesn't make sense. If he wanted to save her.. why die with the evidence on him?
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Rose, sweetheart, you have been dozing thru the last but one episode!😉

That chap is a goatherd, who is murdered by Mahaam Anga's sidekick Resham and the letter planted on his corpse. Whence my first Question of the Day!

Moti does not scream because she wants to escape quietly. She does not want to attract attention and get him into trouble, for she knows that then he will say she enticed him.

And if Jalal does do a Mughal-e-Azam, of course Jodha will find out, for as soon as Motibai reaches Amer, they will let Jodha know.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Thanks for the post Aunty..had been waiting for this.. 😊


The running around the harem was hilarious.. I don't understand why Moti doesn't scream when he is following her.

As for Jalal rescuing her stealthily... They may show that but then how will our dear Jodha know that she has not been executed.. I don't think he thinks that Moti is innocent. He may not further investigate either.

He will ultimately accept the shaahi farmaan in my opinion.

That man killing himself in the harem with the letter doesn't make sense. If he wanted to save her.. why die with the evidence on him?

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

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