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Posted: 18 years ago
Nina,

You are right about Saat Phere. Also the storyline is kept pretty tightly woven - they take a track, resolve it and then move on to the next one. There are hardly any loose ends - in fact none that I can remember. The same was the case with KS before the dumb Park Road raaz came out and Sandeep Sikchand left around the same time. It was all downhill after that.
Edited by pinky05 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
And like you I too am haunted by that scene of the cliff - as if the 'mera bachcha' chanting was not not enough he kissed that thing on the forehead. Can decide which of the two was more disgusting.Pinky05

Ekta had created a masterpiece with KS and especially JB and single handedly killed with the ONS!!!!

She should have realized with the popularity of JB that she was destroying something beautiful but yet still went ahead and did it!!! Kya zaroorat thi----yeh karke kuch nahi mila except a highly disappointed, disgusted and discouraged audience!!!! shahni4

Hi pinky05 and shahni4

JB has an extremely sensitive audience. There were many different ways they could ahve taken this story-and we are all in agreement that they ruined it-I watch the old episodes before the thingy track came on(there is magic in those episodes bw JB)
-u know it was stupid during Banigiri time what Bani was doing but JB chemistry was still there-
Point is the overwhelming disgust that ONS visually aroused in the audience and contributed to the final destruction of JW's character. Showing a man with 2 women esp. when the audience is predominately female is a big no..esp. with a strong character like JW..not entertaining-Now if showing a woman torn bw 2 men with the audience being female-that's a different scenario..women like that...
JB is such a pair that the audience is very posessive about...What is wrong in showing a normal relationship bw these 2 individuals? I think the JB audience expects something different -There was no need for the ONS except to increase the thingy's screen presence...
some ramblings..
I agree "kya zaroorat thi"
the episodes sometimes are so disjointed-no continuity...they should have just left JB alone...Let them come together themselves...
AP
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: rivya

Oh I am with you nina...I hate the fact that it is being shown over and over again...like give us a break..it was enough that we had to endure it so many times..dont need it anymore...

YOu are so right what you say that we are a bunch of sensitive folks...who get upset about such things....but the fact remains...its just plain disgusting...

AP - like you said...imagine you being in Bani's place...I dont know what I would have done..

The producers should take into consideration the audience's sensitivity-But it seems here that the producers just want to disgust the audience....Like pinky05 says the raaz don't get solved-another character is introduced out of the blue-then some other character disappears-I mean this looks like there is chaos behind the scenes-it looks like their production team doesn't have it together...What was the use of the "fake" revelation scene-why can't they just try to reveal the real truth-

The real purpose of the fake revelation scene was to have JW kiss that things forehead and give her more screen time....

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture

The producers should take into consideration the audience's sensitivity-But it seems here that the producers just want to disgust the audience....Like pinky05 says the raaz don't get solved-another character is introduced out of the blue-then some other character disappears-I mean this looks like there is chaos behind the scenes-it looks like their production team doesn't have it together...What was the use of the "fake" revelation scene-why can't they just try to reveal the real truth-

The real purpose of the fake revelation scene was to have JW kiss that things forehead and give her more screen time....Besides it being a really disturbing scene--They need to turn that scene around-I don't see that happening bc no JB interaction anymore-

I wrote somewhere in a reply to a post-that it would be really great if the whole fake truth revelation scene is turned around -meaning that JW kinda played along with the thingy's drama . JW had an ulterior motive-to find out the truth about how Bani lost their child-in some weird way it can be turned around-at least I as a JB fan would want that for my fav. characters

Here it is-I found it-let me know ur thoughts on this theory..

-thinking about Anupam Kapadia and the fake truth revelation scene-
(the most disturbing scene for me in KS besides Banis miscarriage as a
fan of JB-esp. that kiss on that creatures forehead)
1-JW puts AK as name of the father(why AK)
2-lets Pia know that he erased his name
3-Jigs knows AK and JW knows AK
4-JW says how can u say its your child to AK-"mera baccha he-"
5-sees Bani standing there overhearing all this (he saw Bani with Rashi
wanting to follow Pia and AK)

The objective here would be to get Bani out of his life and to find out how
far would Pia go to hurt her own sister-Pia's true intentions...
And who his/Bani's enemies are...


Remember Pushkar's dialogue how Bani is JW's shield-
Also, the fact that Bani has not told JW why she wanted the divorce(he hasn't heard it from her-and who are the culprits &how
she lost the baby-He knows she'll never tell him regarding that...
Massi letting him know what Bani did for him...and his enemies are his
own people...(no names were mentioned)
Also, when they were alone in the snow lodge -Bani says -if something
happens to u -I won't be able to live without u..
(JW wants Bani to be stronger, think for herself-)
JW somehow is aware that there is danger lurking around him and Bani
has always protected him-
With Bani out of his way-door open for enemies galore to enter...
(if Bani disappears then some part of JW's plan backfires)???

I only want JW get to the bottom of the truth himself...

AP


Edited by aperture - 18 years ago

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture

AP,

You do have a very good point there. For once thye will shown that Jia has brains, and he is using tem to clear all those misunderstanding, and get rid of all his and Bain's so called enemies.

Love

Kirshna

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: sun29

the exact words were dono mere dil ke kareeb hain ,kisse main apna naam do,kiske liye fariyaad karu

guyz me think they forgot abt the promo and jai finding out coz a new promo is doing the rounds whether JB will save their marriage

When has this prmo come??? If so means no leap and things are going to be great with them to gether again, Jai rdemed for ever.

Cant wait.

Love

Krishna

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture


Sharing some info.


In the past couple of days, since this question was bugging me
regarding JW 's easily acceptance of the Re***** child, I decided to do
some research on my own-(no, I didn't go to Dubai and interview the
Hotel manager regarding cameras in Dubai hotel rooms) 😆


I e-mailed and spoke to 10 men from different ethnicity, socio-
economic backgrounds with age groups from 25-50yrs. 3 of them are
CEO of multi-million dollar companies in the energy sector, 2 are
computer programmers, 2 are personal trainers, 1 animation storyboard
artist, 1 is starbucks barista, 1-owns a pizzeria.


Scenario :


You are in the midst of a terrible hurtful divorce from your wife and
your wife just had an abortion and basically she hurt you like hell- You
are alone with a girl you once had the hots for but she dumped you and
ran off with another guy- Now you are drunk to the passing out stage and
she is seducing you-you are alone with her in the bedroom-she keeps on
saying she made a mistake and she loves you...the next thing you
remember is waking up next to her on the bed and you say to yourself
what a terrible mistake you just made..How did this happen?...The next
morning, you let her know that you want to save your marriage, your wife
is everything to you and your wife is back with you ....And forget last nite,
it was a terrible mistake...


The next day her husband arrived and you overhear that the girl and
him spent the nite together..


Then a couple of months later, this woman comes to you and claims
that she is having your child.


Meanwhile, you admit to a friend of yours that you have absolute no
recollection of what happened bw you two that nite.


well,I posed this scenario to the guys. and 10/10 said that they would
ask for a paternity test-


1)no memory of what happened


2)the husband being in the room the next nite


3)they said if the girl slept with them while married/separated from her
Husband-


from the girl's behavior they would not take her word to be true....


The CEO's said if there is alot of money involved, never they would
never believe the girl-they would demand concrete proof😆


I asked the CEO's what about the desire for the child-the reply was that
if they are not able to have a child with their wife or there is some
conceiving problems then both the wife and husband would think of
IVF...but a child as a result of a ONS-was a no.no. Now, a child as a result
of an EMA is a different ballgame altogether..



Let me clarify a bit here, if a man is totally in love with his wife,(as in the
case of JW) then his desire to be with his wife outweighs his desire for a
child which is a result of ONS or a child from another woman
-there are big time issues involved here...


JW's easy acceptance of the Pia's child was bugging me



Take care


AP



PS: From what I've read about KS, it was being referred to by the
producers as a realistic serial, then the producers should stay realistic in
their development of the characters esp. JW's character....

AP,

Only if Ekta had the brains to carry out such a research instead of killing of Jai completley by making him a duufer.

Love

Kirshna

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: fsam

Yep they do, so does his body language.😆

😆So true was so noticceable, its always the same when body doubles are used in the scenes they do. Are we good observes or just plain despos thsu when it come to JB/RP we notice the tiniest details.😆 Definitley biggest JB/RP despos for sure, and their biggest fan and critic, so as a fan and critic please, please donot do any body doubles in whcih there is an eye locking seseeion or or emotional scenes with facial expression with a body double.😆

Edited by kubare - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
RK and PD seems lost their intense chemistry mainly because of this doubles performance or something else.. whatever it is, especially their eye locking doesn't generate that intensity for me anymore... i don't know... may be ifeel because of the j/p angle.. but i surely feel something lacking in those staring still 😕

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