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Posted: 18 years ago

AP,
Very interesting and completely unsurprising. I haven't done any research like you but have to tell you that this was something which was discussed in my circle of friends and JW's character did become the butt of so much ridicule for his dumbness.

Forget business tycoons, even a normal man (of course with his brain in place) would have asked for a paternity test even if he remembered what happened that night. Especially if the woman has betrayed you so badly and if you have seen her viciousness and lack of qualm for destroying her sister's life.

The desire for a child cannot be so strong that you are ready to accept a paternity claim unquestioningly for an ONS and that too when it has the capability to wreak havoc in your life. Acceptance of the child after it has been determined to be yours is a totally different thing.

Kudos to Ekta for succeeding in making JW a 'mera bachha' chanting duffer from a smart and shrewd businessman.


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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: capricorn2006

AP,
Very interesting and completely unsurprising. I haven't done any research like you but have to tell you that this was something which was discussed in my circle of friends and JW's character did become the butt of so much ridicule for his dumbness.

Forget business tycoons, even a normal man (of course with his brain in place) would have asked for a paternity test even if he remembered what happened that night. Especially if the woman has betrayed you so badly and if you have seen her viciousness and lack of qualm for destroying her sister's life.

The desire for a child cannot be so strong that you are ready to accept a paternity claim unquestioningly for an ONS and that too when it has the capability to wreak havoc in your life. Acceptance of the child after it has been determined to be yours is a totally different thing.

Kudos to Ekta for succeeding in making JW a 'mera bachha' chanting duffer from a smart and shrewd businessman.


Hi Capricorn2006

u see JW's acceptance was buggung the hell out of me-I had to satisfy my curiosity-

My guy friends said the same thing u stated that even a normal man would have asked for a paternity test-so true-this is the world we live in today-I had to have facts-so I decided to do this little research-

If JW's acceptance is psychologically motivated, then script and director should provide more clues. But all the writers end up doing is leaving the audience more confused.

Bottom line-Psychological motivated or not-paternity test a must in a case like JW😆

Take Care

AP

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Posted: 18 years ago
Pinky05,msbee,rivya,rooj-i,
yes, guys , I really did this. JW's easy acceptance was bugging the hell out of me...and like capricorn2006 writes even a normal man would ask for a paternity test..See, for me, I found it uncharacteristic of JW to accept the thingy's word considering so much evidence presented before him that can eliminate this possibility.
Sangitadas, Thanxs for the welcome.

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture

Pinky05,msbee,rivya,rooj-i,
yes, guys , I really did this. JW's easy acceptance was bugging the hell out of me...and like capricorn2006 writes even a normal man would ask for a paternity test..See, for me, I found it uncharacteristic of JW to accept the thingy's word considering so much evidence presented before him that can eliminate this possibility.
Sangitadas, Thanxs for the welcome.

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AP

AP...hon I have no doubt you did this..infact we were all agreeing with you...that this is exactly what bothers us too...

And we also found the same stuff as you..

rivs

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: rivya

AP...hon I have no doubt you did this..infact we were all agreeing with you...that this is exactly what bothers us too...

And we also found the same stuff as you..

rivs

Hi Rivs

So the writers are making a fool of us and of JW. I see no reason for this except they(producers) wanted to drag the P** track and make us suffer-oh how I have suffered-but no more-from now on if that thing appears in an episode-I am not watching it-I'll stick to reading the updates. Increasing the ONS track allowed for the increased screen presence of the person who portrays P**. And they did all this at the cost of further ruination of JW's character. ONS track could have been solved simply if JW's character would have been allowed to do accordingly to the character's nature..

(that Mera baccha scene-I cannot get out of my head-I am a visual person -and to me visually that scene not only "killed"Bani but (me) as well)

AP

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture

Hi Rivs

So the writers are making a fool of us and of JW. I see no reason for this except they(producers) wanted to drag the P** track and make us suffer-oh how I have suffered-but no more-from now on if that thing appears in an episode-I am not watching it-I'll stick to reading the updates. Increasing the ONS track allowed for the increased screen presence of the person who portrays P**. And they did all this at the cost of further ruination of JW's character. ONS track could have been solved simply if JW's character would have been allowed to do accordingly to the character's nature..

(that Mera baccha scene-I cannot get out of my head-I am a visual person -and to me visually that scene not only "killed"Bani but (me) as well)

AP

I so agree with you...there is nothing good that has come out of this stupid track...maybe Jai's love for Bani is now more obvious...but at what cost...the seperation...the display of hatred..yuck..🤢...makes me cringe...

I wish they stop this soon...and the scene you refer too..God makes me sick..everytime I visualize Jai going.."yeh mera bacha hai...tumne ise kyon mara...Mein apne bache ke liye kuch bhi kho sakta hoon" and the kiss...i wanna through up...infact I get nightmares about it...and the worse thing is...they dont even let us forget this scene...whats with throwing it in our face with every flashback...give me a break please...😡

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: aperture

Hi Rivs

So the writers are making a fool of us and of JW. I see no reason for this except they(producers) wanted to drag the P** track and make us suffer-oh how I have suffered-but no more-from now on if that thing appears in an episode-I am not watching it-I'll stick to reading the updates. Increasing the ONS track allowed for the increased screen presence of the person who portrays P**. And they did all this at the cost of further ruination of JW's character. ONS track could have been solved simply if JW's character would have been allowed to do accordingly to the character's nature..

(that Mera baccha scene-I cannot get out of my head-I am a visual person -and to me visually that scene not only "killed"Bani but (me) as well)

AP



AP,

We are in the same boat - I am in a boycott KS phase right now and am not going to watch it till that thing gets her due or is bumped off. I am sticking to the updates and the posts.

And like you I too am haunted by that scene of the cliff - as if the 'mera bachcha' chanting was not not enough he kissed that thing on the forehead. Can decide which of the two was more disgusting.

About the results of your survey - I wish someone from the Balaji unit reads it. Or maybe Rani can include it in the petition.
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: rivya

I so agree with you...there is nothing good that has come out of this stupid track...maybe Jai's love for Bani is now more obvious...but at what cost...the seperation...the display of hatred..yuck..🤢...makes me cringe...

I wish they stop this soon...and the scene you refer too..God makes me sick..everytime I visualize Jai going.."yeh mera bacha hai...tumne ise kyon mara...Mein apne bache ke liye kuch bhi kho sakta hoon" and the kiss...i wanna through up...infact I get nightmares about it...and the worse thing is...they dont even let us forget this scene...whats with throwing it in our face with every flashback...give me a break please...😡

Yeah, that kiss on the thing's forehead would kill anyone😆

That whole scene was visually disturbing, I understand the scene's shock value for Bani-but it left the audience with shock and disgust...

Can u imagine yr husband infront of u in that kind of an emotional situation with ur sister in his arms and him laying a kiss on her forehead (i know it was for his kid) and those words- would pierce anyone's heart-that scene was disgusting...

that episode was well shot but that scene aside from the production value they should have looked at the shock value of the scene in relation to the sensitivity of the audience. (I did not see that happening) JB has an extremely sensitive audience.

AP

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Posted: 18 years ago
Hi, sorry to butt in but that scene where Jai kisses rept*** on the forehead was the second most disgusting scene with the first of course being when the repitle kisses JW's hand and spouts "I love you Mr Voilya"!!!!

Utterly disgusting !!!!

They really do need to stop the flashbacks in every damm episode!!!!

God the audience deserves to have the old writers and a creative head like Sandip Sikand back ----those were the golden days of KS!!!

I watch the old JB scenes and yaar kya zamana tha, kya acting thi, kya direction tha aur kya storyline thi!!!!

Ekta had created a masterpiece with KS and especially JB and single handedly killed with the ONS!!!!

She should have realized with the popularity of JB that she was destroying something beautiful but yet still went ahead and did it!!! Kya zaroorat thi----yeh karke kuch nahi mila except a highly disappointed, disgusted and discouraged audience!!!!

God knows if she can ever put it right but she should wake up enough to realize she damm well better try and get the duffer jodi we love so much back together!!!

Try the formula other Zee serials do where the main leads are kept together and communicate to each other...Saat Phere's Saloni and Nahar are a great example!!!!

Sorry just had to vent a little!!!!

Nina
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Posted: 18 years ago

Oh I am with you nina...I hate the fact that it is being shown over and over again...like give us a break..it was enough that we had to endure it so many times..dont need it anymore...

YOu are so right what you say that we are a bunch of sensitive folks...who get upset about such things....but the fact remains...its just plain disgusting...

AP - like you said...imagine you being in Bani's place...I dont know what I would have done..

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