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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am quite inactive here,
but I always love this forum
Now I see many people having their frustrations on current track
So I thought to give a view from my side

"Raavan was supposed to be one of the greatest devotee of Mahadev, whom Mahadev himself gave his Aatma Ling. "

From my child hood, I myself had a doubt that why Mahadev didn't help Raavan, when he was his devotee. and when Ravan was about to loose, isn't there any interaction between raavan and Mahadev

And also, why Mahadev gave Pinaki to Janak's family, and why does Ram can only break this,?
And wasn't Mahadev angry on ram when he did this.
And also even in Ramayan, and also in many temples across India, we see some Shiv Lings, which were being prayed up on by Ram and also Ram was a devotee of Mahadev...

And also,we need to see the role of Mahadev in different yugas. I mean there are differences in different Yugas.
So I wonn't blame the introduction of this track
Yeah CV's are going a bit OTT at some places,
but may be this track will be a bit interesting

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: harianjana

I am quite inactive here,

but I always love this forum
Now I see many people having their frustrations on current track
So I thought to give a view from my side

"Raavan was supposed to be one of the greatest devotee of Mahadev, whom Mahadev himself gave his Aatma Ling. "

From my child hood, I myself had a doubt that why Mahadev didn't help Raavan, when he was his devotee. and when Ravan was about to loose, isn't there any interaction between raavan and Mahadev

And also, why Mahadev gave Pinaki to Janak's family, and why does Ram can only break this,?
And wasn't Mahadev angry on ram when he did this.
And also even in Ramayan, and also in many temples across India, we see some Shiv Lings, which were being prayed up on by Ram and also Ram was a devotee of Mahadev...

And also,we need to see the role of Mahadev in different yugas. I mean there are differences in different Yugas.
So I wonn't blame the introduction of this track
Yeah CV's are going a bit OTT at some places,
but may be this track will be a bit interesting



Actually whats painfull for those who actually know the whole story and the fact that in Treta yug Mahadev played very little role they are finding it hard to digest Mahadev being in each and every cornor and that inlcuded even me. A little twist is alright to make a story move forward but mahadev everywhere is 2 2 2 2 much.

They have killed the authenticity of the whole sets of Purans.

As for Rawan not helped by Shiv that was because Rawan was cursed in his previous life when he was Darban of Swarglok that in his next life he will become a asur and will get liberation after he is killed by shri Vishnuji in his next reincarnation as shri Ram.

Yes Mahadev used to love Rawan very much and truly he was not just a devotee but he was the most knowledgble person a vidwani actually an intellect highly educated person besides adi shakti he was only person to master 10 vidyanye

As I was saying thyat rawan was cursed and given a boon by lord shivji the amrit that used to be in his naval and that of 10 heads

So he knew v well that shri ram who is actually Shri vishnuji will kill him and he was seeking moksh

Sita was his own daughter he had raped Sita's mother who gave birth on earth and left the little girl that is how Raja janak had found little sITAJI

AND Mahadev also wanted Rawan's moksh that is why he never helped him
but if you go by karmic theory then also Mahadev could never have helped Rawan rawan sufered his own karmas

Edited by rasyafan - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rasyafan



Sita was his own daughter he had raped Sita's mother who gave birth on earth and left the little girl that is how Raja janak had found little sITAJI



Sita was not Ravan's daughter. This is a folk story that came much recently, but as per Valmiki Ramayan, Sita was ayonija, meaning that she was not born of any human womb. She was found in the Earth when Maharaj Janak was ploughing the Earth for a yagna, and that is why she was named Sita. Sita is called the daughter of the Earth because she appeared from the Earth's surface, but she was not the biological child of anyone.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i don't think it was necessary to butcher ramayana and having mahadeva as a lover of rama. it felt so hilarious to me. jalandhar's track was badly butchered but atleast that track was entertaining giving us knowledge on democratic views and teaching us ashtanga yoga. This track is teaching me nothing except shouting whatever rama did was done by mahadeva actually.
but i am more upset that they destroyed my ravana...😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^^ I agree. Was it necessary to show Ramayana? Why not? They could have shown a few stories in which Mahadev was involved in Ram avatar, but was it necessary to butcher the Ramayana and reduce Vishnu/Ram's status as lower than Mahadev? Absolutely not. There can be no excuse for the distorted stories they are showing now.

Let alone Lord Ram, I doubt even Lord Mahadev is pleased with what is being shown in his name.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

^^ I agree. Was it necessary to show Ramayana? Why not? They could have shown a few stories in which Mahadev was involved in Ram avatar, but was it necessary to butcher the Ramayana and reduce Vishnu/Ram's status as lower than Mahadev? Absolutely not. There can be no excuse for the distorted stories they are showing now.

Let alone Lord Ram, I doubt even Lord Mahadev is pleased with what is being shown in his name.


First of all raja rama was human, he himself declared that. so why to show him so divine, they should show the true meaning behind rama's character as expected from such a high level show. Rama is a replica of true human being aka maryada purushottam thats why he has been given the status of god. Krishna is the one who is complete incarnation of PARABRAHMA SWAROOP VISHNU.
what they are showing is complete nonsense. They are degrading it to its extreme low limits.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath



Sita was not Ravan's daughter. This is a folk story that came much recently, but as per Valmiki Ramayan, Sita was ayonija, meaning that she was not born of any human womb. She was found in the Earth when Maharaj Janak was ploughing the Earth for a yagna, and that is why she was named Sita. Sita is called the daughter of the Earth because she appeared from the Earth's surface, but she was not the biological child of anyone.



Yes Valmiki's Ramayn ssys that and Tamil version says something else there are several texts which say story of Rawan differently so I was talking about one of those stories

I read a shiv puran many years back and that said that Sati and Shiv also had a daughter and named after her motheer Dakshaini her name was also similar forgot and both shesh nag and Vishnuji loved the same girl mahadev gave her to Vishnuji who was later known as padmini or padma and he made a twin of his own daughter whom he gave to shesh nag

I think this was Tamil version sorry I have forgoton many points of stories

and I have no idea where did the producer of the DKDm caught the story of Ashok Sundery I have never heard of this story

Lakshmi Sarswati Dakshiny Ganesh Kartike were his children I have forgoton whether they had 5 kids or 8 kids

so each and every text presents same story differently and with a twisted version

let me tell you the same shiv puran also mentioned that when there was nothign in this world then an electricity cozed and she was shakti adi shakti who divided herself into two parts one was called ishwari and the other ishwara later who came to be knnown as rudra before he was called shiv sothere are many versions I guess because there were many sages who wrote about the same event from their own point of view or what they saw or heard

well god only knows what must have happened at that time 😆😆

of yes again I remembered that shiv puran said that Vishnuji and anant nag are twin brothers and it also said something about how vishnuji's twin came to be forgot the story I read it some 8-9 yrs back


Edited by rasyafan - 12 years ago

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