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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Leesan

By Shristi: "i respect ur opinion but here is what i have to say,
Mohan knows that the boy is incorrigible by his experience he should also know that just going with the flow in this case wudnt help himself change addus ways .its not as if by letting him pour out his anger is all that would take him to transform.there have been many instances shown which should intrigue mohan to know his background but they didnt even show a single scene till now to show his concern about the same.that is what my complaint is from the writers

i respect ur optimistic thought but my practical side tends to disagree
addu is shown someone as selfish he is not concerned abt neone but himself keeping in mind that he is daddas closest associate n also keeping in mind that he is a know it all who knows everyones whereabouts n conveniently comes in fancy dress,it wud be something out of logic n unusual to show that he isnt involved in all this."



Leesan: thanks for your pov! 😊 But I disagree on a few points. If Mohan really believed that Addu was incorrigible and bad to the bone ,beyond help,then he would waste no time in trying to engage him but just get him behind bars!

But Addu is no common criminal in Mohan's eyes! But a damaged traumatized boy who's had to endure a horrific childhood, separated from everything and everyone he has known and loved. On some level, Mohan ,in typical fashion, holds himself partially responsible for this, and is determined to try and make amends and rehabilitate Addu somehow!

Mohan is a reporter after all, and ran a charity for underprivileged / abused kids! So he of all persons would have a clear picture of what Addu had to endure. He may not know all the minute details,but trust me,he knows!

Besides,it's very apparent that he wants to hear Addu's story from Addu himself! Mohan knows that Addu has everything bottled up inside, and to begin to heal he needs to release all this hate and negativity he holds inside. It will be such a cathartic experience for Addu eventually. Mohan of all people knows this, and is prepared to accept whatever venom Addu releases squarely on his own shoulders! And by so doing,he's hoping against hope that Addu will understand him a little better. It's a big risk, but Mohan is prepared to do whatever it takes to save this boy! Love is his most powerful weapon against Addu right now, and Mohan is ready and willing to use it!

My optimism as you call it, is based on my professional expertise! 😉 Trust me,I've seen just about everything ! And yes, the most reviled of people can change! Not all, but some do. Addu may or may not be directly involved in these abductions, but until there is direct evidence I'm not prepared to say for sure. And I won't be surprised if Addu is shown to have an agenda of his own re Dadaji! It won't be illogical at all, and would make sense re Addu's eventual redemption . Which has to happen at some point! If NBT 2 has to make any sense then the Bhatnagar family has to be made whole again...and happy!! 😉 Let the healing begin! 👍🏼



Once Again Leesan! You've taken the words and my opinions/thoughts right out of my mouth/brain. We definitely have a connection. 😆 So now for my little additions to the already perfectly explained version of Leesan's.

Forget Mohan for a minute, but I personally don't think Addu as an incorrigible guy. He's a child! And i mean that because look at him! This child is hell bent on trying to mend what is broken. His heart. His life. Himself. It's a cry for help. He is in pain, and I've said this before, that Addu has definitely grown up, but inside his mental and emotional growth has been stunted. This is his tantrum. "You took my mom and Sister and now I'm going to take them back! You ruined my life, I will ruin yours! You did this, now I will do what I can do to hurt you! " He is focusing all his energy on the only emotion he knows how to express. Revenge. Not to mention, I agree that Mohan feels partially responsible for Addu's mindset. He realizes that if he had listened, and if had tried to go about raising Addu differently, his son might not have grown up to be so damaged. Its hurting Mohan to the core to see his son this way. He sees Addu in no the light, and he wants to bring his son back into the good life. It doesn't help either that Addu had always been instigated against Mohan and brainwashed by Renu. Nor does the fact that he has been estranged from his family. We must also take into consideration that we have no idea in reality what Addu has been through, and neither does he know what his family has been through since his disappearance. In his eyes, he sees that his family had moved on and had been living perfectly fine as if he had never been apart of them. It just put more oil to the fire that was already burning inside Addu.

Mohan sees all this, because he's a journalist. He's a keen observer. And he's good with reading people. So this is his son we're talking about. Someone as understanding as Mohan, who we know has always tried to help people, suddenly sees his own son needing the most help, and you think he wont have logic or an understanding on how to accomplish that? No. Mohan is still the same. But because this is his son, and their are many factors that are involved, he has to be careful as to spite Addu more. I believe this is all part of his plan. He's not being emotional as much as he's being logical and understanding. He is a father, and right now, for him, his own image means nothing to him, if he isn't able to redeem the image and upbringing of his son. Simple.

I also think that right now Addu's first target is Mohan. He blames Mohan for taking away everything in his life. And then he blames him for not finding him which caused him to see the worst days possible that are quite unimaginable. Where he is today in life, the fact that he is in Daddaji's life, he believes is solely because of Mohan. But that doesn't mean he won't have something ready for Daddaji. I personally don't think he had a hand in the kidnappings. But he knows all about it since he is from that ring. I think he's just realized that to open himself up, and to openly fight would be a weakness. He's going to make every single person pay for the life that he's been living, because no matter how much anger and negative this kid has become, I think Megha's goodness still is in him. It just has to be brought out. And Mohan will be the one to do it. I personally would love to see Megha find out that Munna is actually her own son, Addu. It will shatter her, but I think it's important to see both Megha and Mohan help and work together in Addu's redemption.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@leesan
More than perfect..! Perhaps, this is exactly wat the cvs are planning to show..!! :p
We all were thinking, how will addu redeem..?! It is quite unrealistic to see a criminal change for good, overnight..! Perhaps, a fortnight wont even work as well..:p
Personally, i used to ponder, how will the cvs appease the viewers through the redemption track, when addu is one of the most evil criminals ever..?!
Eureka..! And here u solved all my queries..! This is the reason they never showed addu directly involved in a crime.. They made us assume so, so that his antagonist portrayal can be justified..!! And when the time comes, they can easily swap him from negative to positive..! That sounds perfect..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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By SilentDreamer:"Mohan sees all this, because he's a journalist. He's a keen observer. And he's good with reading people. So this is his son we're talking about. Someone as understanding as Mohan, who we know has always tried to help people, suddenly sees his own son needing the most help, and you think he wont have logic or an understanding on how to accomplish that? No. Mohan is still the same. But because this is his son, and their are many factors that are involved, he has to be careful as to spite Addu more. I believe this is all part of his plan. He's not being emotional as much as he's being logical and understanding. He is a father, and right now, for him, his own image means nothing to him, if he isn't able to redeem the image and upbringing of his son. Simple.

I also think that right now Addu's first target is Mohan. He blames Mohan for taking away everything in his life. And then he blames him for not finding him which caused him to see the worst days possible that are quite unimaginable. Where he is today in life, the fact that he is in Daddaji's life, he believes is solely because of Mohan. But that doesn't mean he won't have something ready for Daddaji. I personally don't think he had a hand in the kidnappings. But he knows all about it since he is from that ring. I think he's just realized that to open himself up, and to openly fight would be a weakness. He's going to make every single person pay for the life that he's been living, because no matter how much anger and negative this kid has become, I think Megha's goodness still is in him. It just has to be brought out. And Mohan will be the one to do it. I personally would love to see Megha find out that Munna is actually her own son, Addu. It will shatter her, but I think it's important to see both Megha and Mohan help and work together in Addu's redemption. "





Leesan: So perfectly and beautifully expressed Saher! 👏 And I have to concur, our thought processes do seem to operate on the same wavelength!! Forum twins???? 😆


Mohan may not know of Addus involvement with Dadaji, but I think it will only make things clearer for Mohan in understanding Addu's motives. Likewise Addu doesn't have a clue re his family's traumatic estrangement for all these years, but when he does it will certainly affect him in a profound way. And yes I think Megha should know the truth sooner rather than later, though I empathize with Mohan's motives. He really doesn't want to be the one to break her heart, or be seen to betray Addu's confidence which will only lead to further estrangement.

Mohan looks within Addu's harsh and cruel exterior, and sees only that traumatized and lost little 8 year old boy,crying out for help ! And he wants to gently pull out that little boy once more, and listen to him , listen to all his tales of horror and sorrow. Let him rant and rave against Mohan and his family, let him shout and scream his accusations, but let him get it all out once and for all! And that's why he wants to engage Addu, whether in jail or wherever else, Mohan wants to be there ,just to listen to Addu, especially when he feels he didn't listen to him so many years ago on that fateful day. This will be cathartic for them both actually IMO.

Looking forward to the day when both Mohan and Addu can arrive at that place of understanding,acceptance and forgiveness!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Leesan

By Shristi: "i respect ur opinion but here is what i have to say,
Mohan knows that the boy is incorrigible by his experience he should also know that just going with the flow in this case wudnt help himself change addus ways .its not as if by letting him pour out his anger is all that would take him to transform.there have been many instances shown which should intrigue mohan to know his background but they didnt even show a single scene till now to show his concern about the same.that is what my complaint is from the writers

i respect ur optimistic thought but my practical side tends to disagree
addu is shown someone as selfish he is not concerned abt neone but himself keeping in mind that he is daddas closest associate n also keeping in mind that he is a know it all who knows everyones whereabouts n conveniently comes in fancy dress,it wud be something out of logic n unusual to show that he isnt involved in all this."



Leesan: thanks for your pov! 😊 But I disagree on a few points. If Mohan really believed that Addu was incorrigible and bad to the bone ,beyond help,then he would waste no time in trying to engage him but just get him behind bars!

But Addu is no common criminal in Mohan's eyes! But a damaged traumatized boy who's had to endure a horrific childhood, separated from everything and everyone he has known and loved. On some level, Mohan ,in typical fashion, holds himself partially responsible for this, and is determined to try and make amends and rehabilitate Addu somehow!

Mohan is a reporter after all, and ran a charity for underprivileged / abused kids! So he of all persons would have a clear picture of what Addu had to endure. He may not know all the minute details,but trust me,he knows!

Besides,it's very apparent that he wants to hear Addu's story from Addu himself! Mohan knows that Addu has everything bottled up inside, and to begin to heal he needs to release all this hate and negativity he holds inside. It will be such a cathartic experience for Addu eventually. Mohan of all people knows this, and is prepared to accept whatever venom Addu releases squarely on his own shoulders! And by so doing,he's hoping against hope that Addu will understand him a little better. It's a big risk, but Mohan is prepared to do whatever it takes to save this boy! Love is his most powerful weapon against Addu right now, and Mohan is ready and willing to use it!

My optimism as you call it, is based on my professional expertise! 😉 Trust me,I've seen just about everything ! And yes, the most reviled of people can change! Not all, but some do. Addu may or may not be directly involved in these abductions, but until there is direct evidence I'm not prepared to say for sure. And I won't be surprised if Addu is shown to have an agenda of his own re Dadaji! It won't be illogical at all, and would make sense re Addu's eventual redemption . Which has to happen at some point! If NBT 2 has to make any sense then the Bhatnagar family has to be made whole again...and happy!! 😉 Let the healing begin! 👍🏼

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here is wht i have to say😊
he wud have taken his name and got him behind bars only if he if he wasnt on a guilt-trip na plus we also know that mohan doesnt give up hope.as u have said tht he finds himself responsible for the person addu is today so he wants to redeem him rather than getting him punished.But redeeming a person needs u to get to the root of that person no matter how.faster he gets to know abt these details faster he will be able to proceed.
extending my view point a little further to include what should be done other than finding abt addus background as fast as possible
12 yrs back if i m not wrong he had already observed him going the wrong way he had thought that he would be able to redeem him but wasnt he didnt take megha on board for the same thinking he wud be able to do this on his own n hid things from her in this process...hiding stuff from ur spouse doesnt help in neway when actually u take vows to solve problems together.Now wht should be shown is that he tells it to megha(isnt she hurt n tensed enough now),they should rather work as a couple to change addus ways sure addu has a lot of anger for megha as well but still she can play a major role coz of the fact that she has been the one who was the closest to him.n if still he remains the same it shud be preferred that he be left the way he is afterall these r humans we r talking abt...n mm shud only be concerned then to protect themselves n their family from this person..i m sorry if i sound harsh but that is wht i think
but as we know its fiction,a daily soap,happy ending, be the changes in characters be abrupt or gradual ,is inevitable
lets hope it is shown gradually and convincingly😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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By Shristi: "here is wht i have to say😊
he wud have taken his name and got him behind bars only if he if he wasnt on a guilt-trip na plus we also know that mohan doesnt give up hope.as u have said tht he finds himself responsible for the person addu is today so he wants to redeem him rather than getting him punished.But redeeming a person needs u to get to the root of that person no matter how.faster he gets to know abt these details faster he will be able to proceed.
extending my view point a little further to include what should be done other than finding abt addus background as fast as possible
12 yrs back if i m not wrong he had already observed him going the wrong way he had thought that he would be able to redeem him but wasnt he didnt take megha on board for the same thinking he wud be able to do this on his own n hid things from her in this process...hiding stuff from ur spouse doesnt help in neway when actually u take vows to solve problems together.Now wht should be shown is that he tells it to megha(isnt she hurt n tensed enough now),they should rather work as a couple to change addus ways sure addu has a lot of anger for megha as well but still she can play a major role coz of the fact that she has been the one who was the closest to him.n if still he remains the same it shud be preferred that he be left the way he is afterall these r humans we r talking abt...n mm shud only be concerned then to protect themselves n their family from this person..i m sorry if i sound harsh but that is wht i think
but as we know its fiction,a daily soap,happy ending, be the changes in characters be abrupt or gradual ,is inevitable
lets hope it is shown gradually and convincingly😊"




Leesan: once more thanks for your pov.😊

Yes I agree and have stated that Mohan does feel a sense of guilt re Addu's condition. From my pov, Addu and Mohan got off to a bad start and it never really improved over time. Step relations are difficult as it is, and throw in a little boy of 5, who had lost his own father violently, witnessed his late father falsely accused of criminal negligence and greed, and then see his own beloved mother and sister fall in love with his arch enemy Mohan, only made things worse! I've always said that MM married too quickly, they needed family counseling,but instead overlooked Addu's issues. They spoiled him at times,perhaps overcompensated,but never really dealt properly with his concerns. And I'm not talking about the punishment ,slaps etc that many seem to recommend. Addu then proceeded to seek attention with negative behaviors: lying,stealing,jealousy, failing etc. these were his cries for help, but were not recognized by MM and so not handled appropriately. Sadly,in the real world too, very often this is what children do! Not so unusual after all. And then on that fateful day, the tenuous relationship that MA shared came into full play and the results were devastating!!! And all hell broke loose!!

And now here we are with this damaged ,hate filled cruel boy! Seeking revenge for every sorrow he's had to endure ! He's totally unaware of the horror that his family has had to endure these past 12 years . In a sense they were all lost! But he doesn't know that, he's so wrong in his perceptions, that he continues to lash out and dispense hurt and hate as he sees fit. Thankfully Mohan sees that now and is trying to make Addu understand how much he's been missed and loved. He's handling Addu very carefully as he should.

Addu's story is the crux of NBT 2! He is the reason for everyone's loss and pain. And if NBT 2 is to make any sense,and be justified, then Addu must be redeemed after all! It is the only way his family can be made whole...and live happily. I would be very surprised if the CVs have other plans!



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Posted: 12 years ago
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by leesan: Addu's story is the crux of NBT 2! He is the reason for everyone's loss and pain. And if NBT 2 is to make any sense,and be justified, then Addu must be redeemed after all! It is the only way his family can be made whole...and live happily. I would be very surprised if the CVs have other plans!

i hope tht is shown convincingly leesan😊if nt shown tht convincingly then maybe i will digest it as the time will pass coz time weakens memory (n also given the fact tht its just a show),maybe i will digest it then n there only n look forward to better stuff if there will be any left in store or cherish some good moments tht the show has given before...afterall at the end of the day its a daily soap n things being presented to pitch perfection is a rare possibility.😊
Edited by srishti bhutani - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: srishti bhutani

@john yes he is a father he has been trying hard to gain addus acceptance,but i guess he also knows that how much venom he has gathered in himself,surely sitting in jail holding onto your beliefs n not thinking of any way out is not going to make addu think otherwise about him or will make him mend his ways n i cant expect him to not even have this concern in his mind.

what good is this yielding neway neither addu will realise a thing except they show some magic overnight to put an abrupt end to this track nor megha is happy seeing mohan in that state.


yes. he knows addu still hates him and i hate addu from now onwards too (considering he used rimjhim to fulfill his unjust desire. he stooped so low😲) but seeing from mohan's pov, he is right. this is same mohan from ssn1 who is very stubborn and would do anything and go to any length if he decides to do something. he is same person who would never compromise his principles. he is not expecting addu to change over night or change by seeing his condition. he is doing this for megha coz if he starts talking then she will lose her son again. woh gusse se nahi pyar se iss situation ko handle karne ki koshish kar raha hai taki addu ke dil mein khud ke liye pyar jaga sake aur apni family complete kar sake. mohan still is strong enough to challenge and beat addu in this game. infact addu is already losing coz when megha will know abt his deeds and that he is addu, he will lose her. i would love to see megha reject him after what he did to mohan.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: john909


yes. he knows addu still hates him and i hate addu from now onwards too (considering he used rimjhim to fulfill his unjust desire. he stooped so low😲) but seeing from mohan's pov, he is right. this is same mohan from ssn1 who is very stubborn and would do anything and go to any length if he decides to do something. he is same person who would never compromise his principles. he is not expecting addu to change over night or change by seeing his condition. he is doing this for megha coz if he starts talking then she will lose her son again. woh gusse se nahi pyar se iss situation ko handle karne ki koshish kar raha hai taki addu ke dil mein khud ke liye pyar jaga sake aur apni family complete kar sake. mohan still is strong enough to challenge and beat addu in this game. infact addu is already losing coz when megha will know abt his deeds and that he is addu, he will lose her. i would love to see megha reject him after what he did to mohan.

if he doesnt get redeemed then tht is the most appropriate thing to show..frankly in reality these kind of ppl have very little hope to be changed for good...n if half of ur life goes in changing a person..what use is it of...n after an age the rigidity becomes so much thats its almost impossible to make u see things otherwise..n that age depends from person to person..its nt fixed or sumthing
so wud say
@bold i wont mind this at all
there was this serial on colors called yeh pyar na hoga kam tht serial had a one of a kind ending
in which the lead pair along with heros mom leave the house of heros father and dadi after getting sick of their cheap tactics...no redemption expected from those ppl..they simply left the household,that was the ending..that is what i call a bold step and bold move to show in an indian soap


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