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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: i-me-myself

I would say...Madhu is the most useless, nonsense and worst character of the show rest are perfectly alright.

If creatives gives some brain to Madhu...this current track will also turn interesting to watch.


This is why the show never picked up in the days of Mukund and RK being RK looking down upon Chawl crowd.

At that time too, TRP audience wanted to connect to practicality within a girl who is the heroine. When that does not happen they get disillusioned.


I have seen in various forums here, let me count how many...DABH, HD, AB, RJN, EHMMBH, BV, PSH, PV, PR, BALH and ASA along with MEIEJ.

In all of these soaps, the heroines are not perfect, but they are good girls, who are conflicted between their self-interests and love for their family. When these girls make mistakes, I have seen half of the forum ready to forgive them for their dumbness as someone else is showing them that you are being wrong. That someone could be anyone...her hero or her mother or her friend.

When MEIEJ initially slipped below 2 TRP, it came into class of HD, AB, RJN, PSH, PV...But the moment Madhu went to RK and agreed to get married for her father's sake...she killed two birds with single stone...took care of family and took care of self-interest as she can fight RK's RKesque. That was the reason TRP audiences remained loyal and more got added because of RK Drama.

We all know...once heroine is accepted, the TRP drama sells because of other characters around her. There needs to be constant entertainment in terms of good dialogues, acting and twisting and plotting. It is must that we get entertained through supporting characters else interest fades away.

In MEIEJ it was RK and Dips. There was no other character developed in good way. This is where writing of MEIEJ fell beyond repair. Now add to that lacuna, a heroine who no longer has any self-interest and has no affection for family. So how can the audience now connect to her ?

When I say supporting characters, I am not saying cameos. I am saying supporting characters who are going to stay throughout.

AUDIENCE
Once the heroine is accepted and audience gets a grip on her character, then they start predicting...oh this is how she will behave, this is how she will lose or win...and it becomes an anticipation game for them to see HOW Factor. But in MEIEJ, the writers messed with Madhu character by giving her a Prem Game to play. This is where Audience gets a jolt and they are forced to disconnect with her and feel as if they are seeing a new woman. The present impatience is not stemming from frustration that Madhu is dumb enough not to see where her self interest and family interest lies...their impatience is from the fact that they DO NOT understand their heroine. When watching a drama, it is imperative that Audience needs to identify the Protagonist and Antagonist so that he or she takes a side and watches the drama. When one cannot pick a side, the audience feels confused and becomes beliigerant within the chaos around him.

ACCEPTABILITY vis-a-vis the Drama
CHAOS and CONFUSION is something the Audience never wants in terms of its heros, heroines and Villain even if they have 100 faults with them...that is another reason why even people like Raavan get accepted. The audience is able to dissect the good and bad out of Raavan and yet know what kind of fate he awaits. So Madhu or Sultan or RK too can have 100 faults, but they need to be predictable even with the twists they bring in. RK is predictable in the sense that he thinks Alag Che. Madhu is predictable in the sense that she is the one to hurt her loved ones. When these two make mistakes they need to be consistent with their Core Character.
So RK's twists are all acceptable...because he has that focussed mind and Duniya se Begaana outlook on life. Madhu's twists should also be acceptable if her actions are consistent with her character. And this is where she has become unacceptable in the sense the Consistency is GONE. When Mukund drama happened, Madhu was single handedly fighting RK and her family. Later on her family came on to her side. She always had everyone's support and stood against RK. When Sultan was introduced, Madhu again single handedly stood against RK and her family and slowly she turned everyone to her side for standing by Sultan. This much was consistent and so we accepted.
But the Sultan as Half-Brother drama was totally derailed twist to begin with. The writers needed to show end of Sultan's role in MB life like Mukund. And then during those same wedding days, they could have introduced new cameo characters on the other side of MBVerse where another character could have come across Rashid and Meera. And in here...Madhu would have had the potential of supporting MEERA standing against RK and her family...and slowly she would have won her family's support except RK's. This would have been consistency in her character and then everyone would have enjoyed the drama...because its quite okay if MK had illicit relationships as well. The biggest mistake the writers made was they made the TOOFAN for Madhu in Sultan who had already died as a character in second phase until the wedding and they resurrected him instead of adding Muscle and Tissue around MEERA Skeleton. They made an entire believable drama into INCONSISTENCY SHIP.

In terms of drama...Madhu single handedly blackmails everyone to support her as it is she who picks her choice (be it Mukund or Sultan) and struggles to obtain her family support against RK. But in this Sultan-Meera twist, already with dilution because of a dead character, the VOLTE-FACE of drama's plotting happened when Madhu is not single handedly responsible to bring TOOFAN home. She could have met MEERA and saw the bangle...and slowly drama could have developed...but here she is merely pulled in...and there is no way she cannot see what is right and wrong under her roof. For God's sake she is not on the Street or Jungle...to forget her family commitments and give into her Self-Interests. Instead HERE we have Radhaji blackmailing Madhu to create drama...breaking the rule of Family needs to support Madhu and not the Vice Versa of Madhu supporting the Family (minus RK). This has been the Biggest Rule Break and so after disconnect with Madhu because of Prem Game, now Audience has disconnect with DRAMA because PLOTTING Rule Break.


RESULT : Audience is totally Disconnected.


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Posted: 12 years ago
Monday was RK-Sultan confrontation - decent TRP.

On Tuesday the audience tuned in to see a Sultan-free or Sultan-rotting-in-jail episode - slight rise in TRP.

By Wednesday the audience knew that Sultan is not going anywhere and so the fall starts immediately - down, down, down.

That 1.9 TRP was so soothing to my heart 😃 The fall this week should be much more drastic now - fingers crossed!
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Posted: 12 years ago
From 2.4 to 1.9 - All in a week's work! 🤢

Keep up the good work CVs/PH/Colors! 😡👎🏼 Seems like this week's TRP is going to start from 1.9 and with an average downfall of 0.2 every day ending with 1 by Saturday. By the looks of this TRP downfall, ghost of last year has revisited, when the show was given the ultimatum by colors that Either BUCK UP or CLOSE DOWN by August end.

It will be better that the show goes off-air rather than continue with this crap. Both VD & DD are very talented & talent makes the person go much further in life than contacts! Even after committing to the show and giving their best to the show, they are being targeted by makers/channel these past few months. PH had made such a brilliant & successful show by their efforts and now after one year, they have destroyed the show by their own hands.

In the end, it will be we viewers who will be disappointed & feel cheated. An Epic love story of unique couple Rishbala DESTROYED due to channels/makers stubborness! 😡😡😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
so after doing so much naariyal phoodo, bhai entered rk mansion on tuesday
and after that audience left

so the entry of bhai in rk mansion===falling of trps day by day
people knew they will get to see torture of bhai and meera

😆
😆😆😆
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saturday bhai watching bhabiji and chotu bro romance got the lowest
jethji eyeing bhabhiji repelled the audience
and now we are back to 1.9 days
hurray

seee bhai
your feet are so abshagun

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Posted: 12 years ago
@ Chakku. Wonderful analysis. Along with making Sultan a parallel character their overnight attempt to change this romantic show into family drama has spelled the disaster. Viewers for this show are those who are not interested in Saas bahu saga. Me for one. if I want to watch one of those family dramas my choices are plenty.Why would I want to watch Madhubala where I cannot connect with the heroine? Typical Indian bahu is expected to support her husband against all odds. That is the bitter truth. The day I read about Madhu's support to Gangster the show put me off as there is no justification in it. Secondly what is the need for urgency to introduce this track along with wedding. In R.K."s words wedding over, dessert over . and our love story is over. The very next day of wedding Sultan entered. Does it mean there should not be any private light moments between RM? Everything IS shallow. They appear more like a middle class tired couple married long ago .Madhu looks like an aunty and no comments about R.K."s shirt. What do they intend to show? That this show is not for youth/ It is too late for that. I am shocked and I am unable to digest this change.I don't know if it is possible to revive this show. Our MADHU loves and mesmerized by R.K only in the absence of Sultan. I am yet to watch her behaving properly with Sultan. I can't understand this unique friendship .And new montage is another wrong move. They thought they could play the same third angle with subtlety. Viewers are in no mood to take it.

@arumummy and Zoya

I am relieved the much publicized Sultan watching Madhu got lowest. TRP's .They deserved it for judging the audience cheap. I was disgusted and happy I am not alone . For whatever purpose it was done it was in bad taste. Creepy This shows the pathetic mind set of channel/PH who shamelessly promoted it.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: rajjji

so after doing so much naariyal phoodo, bhai entered rk mansion on tuesday

and after that audience left

so the entry of bhai in rk mansion===falling of trps day by day
people knew they will get to see torture of bhai and meera

😆
😆😆😆
😆
saturday bhai watching bhabiji and chotu bro romance got the lowest
jethji eyeing bhabhiji repelled the audience
and now we are back to 1.9 days
hurray

seee bhai
your feet are so abshagun

It is not about Bhai dear. It is about the way our heroine reacts to him soon after wedding. She behaves like Meera's bahu. If she was against Bhai' forcible invasion I would have tolerated.I wish they change the montage asap.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Thanks NeutralMona for the daily TRP breakdown.

TRPs:
Sadly, MB TRPs went down further from 2.4 to 2.2. The show continues to squeak into the top 10, at #9 position like the week prior - there were two #5s, , and two #8s this week.

MB weekly TRP trends:
There is no other way to put this - the TRP trends are positively gloomy (see the chart below.) The overall TRPs for the week showed the effect of declining daily TRPs. My view* is that seems like it's the combined effect of viewer confusion/ambivalence/disengagement about Madhu's behavior, and just inconsistencies in the show in general; the Bhai track in full swing; the absence of special Rishbala focused episodes post wedding. (*others will have additional perspectives, I'm sure.)

Note: does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, and level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.


And a comparison to other top 10 shows. TRPs for top shows were a mixed bag, with most shows decreasing or staying the same as the week prior. MB TRPs dropped compared to the previous week. It is now at #9, retaining its position in the top 10 because of two #5s and two #8s.

The two charts below show: 1) Top 10 shows TRPs (MB is yellow) and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same.


PS: all my usual caveats apply - this is a rough analysis etc. etc. Feel free to weigh in and point out the holes (I freely admit there's probably some!)


Daily TRPs:
Edited by river123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: ClosetRomantic

Monday was RK-Sultan confrontation - decent TRP.


On Tuesday the audience tuned in to see a Sultan-free or Sultan-rotting-in-jail episode - slight rise in TRP.



Tuesday was high bec. we wanted to know what REASON will Sultan give to barge into RK mansion and stay there ! but all his reasons were lame and certainly an insult to audience intelligence...moreover, RK didn't revolt, thanks to Bhabhiji...Radha fainted n he took up the chance to find a room for his mom 😆 n now we're left wondering "why did he come to RK mansion and why did he leave?" poor scripting 🤢

how can t he TRP's rise after that? it was unbearable for me to watch Madhu and RK arguing for putting Sultan behind the bars 🤢 Madhu accusing RK of not handling the situation propertly..
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Posted: 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: subashni

It is not about Bhai dear. It is about the way our heroine reacts to him soon after wedding. She behaves like Meera's bahu. If she was against Bhai' forcible invasion I would have tolerated.I wish they change the montage asap.

yes agree
i stopped watching the serial saturday onwards
and the reason was not sultan
its madhu
i cant tolerate madhu supporting bhai

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