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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

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Guys I just would like to know that if jalal marries jodha yes she will be his queen. But if Suryaban married jodha she will be only princess right... Coz he's just a prince... N in regards of jalal jodha, usually kings has many wife's but if I'm not mistaken only the 1st wife becomes the queen... Is this correct... If this is correct meaning even jodha will not be the queen... 😕... Can someone clarify this


hi there dunno about the show but as per historical texts Raquia begum the first wife of the emperor was entilted as EMPRESS OF INDIA also the Padshah begum the title tht is reserved to the first lady...

Jodha was the third queen of Akbar and was known as harkha begum or malika she gain the title of mariyam uz zamani after giving birth to salim and the mailka e hindustan still remained with raquiya begum😳

and if jodha married Suryabhan she would have been called rani or yuvrani 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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10q all for the comments... appreciated 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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there is a lot of confusion regarding jodhas actual title coz most of the historical info dont have her name and wherever it is mentioned she is addressed as malika e hindustan, maybe coz she gave birth to the only heir to the throne she got this title
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelu0001

there is a lot of confusion regarding jodhas actual title coz most of the historical info dont have her name and wherever it is mentioned she is addressed as malika e hindustan, maybe coz she gave birth to the only heir to the throne she got this title

not only title buddy... some even say jodha is imiginary character 😆 im confuse...😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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No, she was not an imaginary character. The historical accounts all speak of a Kachchwaha princess of Amer who was married to Jalaluddin and was the mother of Salim, later the Emperor Jahangir.

The confusion is only about her name - she is also called Harkat Bai,and other names - and about whether she converted to Islam, which seems to have happened.But other Rajput princesses who married Akbar did not convert, so apparent;y there was no compulsion.

Both in the film, and I expect here too, they showed/ will show that she was allowed to remain a Hindu.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: riyya6

not only title buddy... some even say jodha is imiginary character 😆 im confuse...😆



Originally posted by: leelu0001

there is a lot of confusion regarding jodhas actual title coz most of the historical info dont have her name and wherever it is mentioned she is addressed as malika e hindustan, maybe coz she gave birth to the only heir to the throne she got this title


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, she was not an imaginary character. The historical accounts all speak of a Kachchwaha princess of Amer who was married to Jalaluddin and was the mother of Salim, later the Emperor Jahangir.

The confusion is only about her name - she is also called Harkat Bai,and other names - and about whether she converted to Islam, which seems to have happened.But other Rajput princesses who married Akbar did not convert, so apparent;y there was no compulsion.

Both in the film, and I expect here too, they showed/ will show that she was allowed to remain a Hindu.

Shyamala B.Cowsik




but why there was no mention of it in akhbarnama (Credit : tanthya). It was kind of stated abt rugaiya his fist wife but noting mention abt jodha 😕...
Edited by riyya6 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I know you must have checked that source carefully, Riyya, and I have not,but does he mention any of Akbar's other queens? There were definitely several Rajput ones besides Jodha. If he does not, it probably means that he wanted to focus only on the Muslim queens. I will try and investigate this further and revert.

However, there is no doubt at all, no matter which historian you go by, that Jahangir/Salim was the son of Akbar and the first Rajput princess he married. So there was one such queen, without the shadow of a doubt, but whether she was called Jodha was a major controversy.

When he made the film in 2008, Ashutosh Gowarikar had done a lot of research and cited many very eminent historians to back up the role of Jodha , but he too never insisted that this was her only name, and put in a limited disclaimer to that effect.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

but why there was no mention of it in akhbarnama (Credit : tanthya). It was kind of stated abt rugaiya his fist wife but noting mention abt jodha 😕...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

No, she was not an imaginary character. The historical accounts all speak of a Kachchwaha princess of Amer who was married to Jalaluddin and was the mother of Salim, later the Emperor Jahangir.

The confusion is only about her name - she is also called Harkat Bai,and other names - and about whether she converted to Islam, which seems to have happened.But other Rajput princesses who married Akbar did not convert, so apparent;y there was no compulsion.

Both in the film, and I expect here too, they showed/ will show that she was allowed to remain a Hindu.

Shyamala B.Cowsik




Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

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