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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: genger
Nice anlalization Nafts. In my opinion some time it is not all the time what you got in life it is how you take and accept what you have ad be positive. In RK's case even he was provided with all the physical comforts mentally he was not happy with it for loosing his dad and loosing his mom in some way even though he did not loose his mother physically but in his mind he lost her so he became bitter towards life. same thing happen with Deepali blackly until he met Madhu he met all the selfish people in life and that is what he learn growing up and that why he behaves some time selfishly because that is what life taught him unless you are possessive you will loose what you have.

Where as for Sultan even though he did not have lot of comforts he was loved by adopted mother he knows the feeling of love and caring that is why even his profusion is a gangster he was never showed aggressive and selfish towards people and he believe in caring and sensitive to words other people as long as e thinks they are good people that is why when he met madhu and saw what she is his feelings for her became caring and friendship and gratitude. That is why people making fun of him saying he is a gangster why he is mushy mushy he should be stronger and ruthless and should not feel for girl he just met. His sensitive feelings towards people is nothing to do with his profusion he believe in relationships that is what we are seeing now in him how he treat his mother.

I think the whole point of CV's is to show how people look at things regardless how they grow up they want to show the differences between Sultan and RK from the beginning in their behaviors. They both are completely different personalities and have lot of contrast between them. This why some people like rk ad some like Sultan depend up on how you understood the character

Sorry for the essay

Thanks gengar, I agree RK and Sultan are contrasting personalities, RK can be arrogant, boisterous, ruthless and selfish true because he was surrounded by that...those betrayals all those people were very self involved people mostly, that self involved nature and ruthlessness is probably that made RK have just a one track mind when he was doing his revenge on Madhu, where as Sultan is the opposite to that. Though Sultan did lose Nazia at age 8 years old and RK's dad died when RK was 12 years old so RK had his father and mother for longer then Sultan had his parent for, it's a naturing issue now, perhaps Nazia natured Sultan to be that way, and though he lived with gangers after 8 years old, they might have been humble people, having nothing leaving day to day, hand to mouth type of people.

Saying what I've said about RK that's why he needed constant reassurance from Madhu because of the people that he knew prior to meeting Madhu were self involved, ruthless, selfish people that's why we saw him testing her so many times before he could trust she was what she said she was.

RK's issues as you rightly said were mental unhappiness (loss of a father, lack of love, trustworthy people) and Sultan physical problems (shelter, food, no education), which I described as basic requirements to live, I felt Sultan was worse off because you must have the basic requirements sorted before you can worry about mental emotional fulfillment, and because Sultan didn't have the basic physical things he was worse off.

The reason I went into the comparison of who was worse off here, is with regards to why Sultan needs to ask recompense from the Kundra's, yes it's his legal right but he and Meera lost a lot, Meera perhaps her issues were also mental unhappiness similar to RK, loss of her baby, lack of love etc.

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-Nafisa-

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: maria090
good post dear nafisa 😳👏may be Radhaji know about sultan & meera

nafisa i believed that sultan is not Mohan Kundra's son😳
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3620174/bhai-ka-baap-koin-hai

I think sultan is kuku bhatiya's son
i think that its a big master plan made by some dangerous person against RK😔

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3634091/sfd-article-new-twist-in-madhubala😆😉

Hi Maria, thanks for liking my post 😊

I was thinking exactly the same that the whole scheme is orchestrated by Kuku Bhatia and Meera is an actress, particularly when I saw the diamond bangle on her wrist as I thought Kuku Bhatia stole it from Radhaji, in their room at RK mansion recently made a replica bangle and put the replica on Meera's wrist to show like she is definitely Mohan Kundra's wife, just as a plan to destroy RK's faith he had in his father, ruin MK reputation and maybe even extort money from RK though this scheme. But if Radhaji is really knowing about Meera and carried on paying the hospital bills of Meera after Mohan Kundra's death then the story is true. So I'm just waiting to know this.

Check your first post you will see I thought it was Kuku Bhatia anyway...😆😉

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-Nafisa-

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: ennishet
Sultan had a very caring and devoted mother till he was eight and she got murdered. Sorry, disagree with you that he had to go into this gangster profession. He accepted in one episode that he chose this way of life, he wasn't forced to live this life. That old Kaka was always around to help him, he wasn't totally alone. DO all kids who find their parents murdered end up killing the murderers? Do all orphans become gangsters?

I agree, Sultan hasn't had an easy life, but, RK too never had it easy. Whatever RK is today, is just coz of his hard work. Why should he give any part of his hard earned property to Sultan. His father MAY have had a fling, haven't yet accepted that as truth, but RK never did anything wrong. RK never hurt Meera or Sultan. So what kind of revenge is it? What's the proof that Meera/Rashid are telling the truth? If RK had inherited property from MK, then there could be some chance of splitting up that part of the property ... but no one can claim anything from RK's personal property which is thanks to his hard work and stardom.

As to your saying Radhaji looked terrified, which mom wouldn't be terrified on seeing a gangster at work rampaging and destroying things she has cherished all her life?

Hi ennishet, I don't think you understood what I was saying clearly, I said at 8 years old when he was abducted Sultan was turned into a killer, so at 8 years old he had no choice whether to be a gangster or not. After a few years we were told he went to kill the people that abducted him.

Only later he had the opportunity to kill those people that killed Nazia and abducted him and I think if he was a killer already they had turned him that way...yes he had a choice to stop killing than but he had the opportunity and he took his revenge..

Also the next point again you misunderstood my post I said the share of the property would be Mohan Kundra's property not RK's hard earned property, I specifically said the freehold land where RK mansions is standing, not the RK mansion itself and I said the Sitara Studio. I never said he should have a share of RK's wealth personally earned by him, so please I would request you nicely don't assume but read properly and try to understand before commenting.

Edited by Nafs_Sweetheart - 12 years ago

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ennishet

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: Nafs_Sweetheart

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Also the next point again you misunderstood my post I said the share of the property would be Mohan Kundra's property not RK's hard earned property, I specifically said the freehold land where RK mansions is standing, not the RK mansion itself and I said the Sitara Studio.

Has there ever been any mention of RK getting MK's property except the Sitara studio which got mentioned just recently? If yes, then I must have missed that episode.

Believe me, I read nicely, understand and then comment. Trust me! 😊

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bria

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Posted: 12 years ago

#15

awsome analysis nafs...for now Sultan is acting brainless... who the hell in this world believe without a solid proof that his father was characterless...sometimes i even feel pity 4 him...but whatevr it was i jst hope he doesnot effect Rishabala that much

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Dolly-heart

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

I admire the fact that you are trying to see both sides.

But you are comparing Apples with Oranges.

And you are trying to open eyes of people whose minds are slammed shut by their idolatry of a certain actor.

Tragedy happens in all our lives. One boy saw his father hang himself.

One boy saw his mother killed by ruthless people. Extreme tragedy in both cases.

I do not see Radhaji marrying again as a betrayal as much as trying to provide a father figure for R.K.. I do not agree that gives R.K. even as a small boy to turn him into the Man he becomes for that reason. As to Dipali leaving him for Sikki is also an easy way out to say that because a woman leaves me for another man I will then turn obnoxious and bitter towards the whole world. That is illogical thinking . Yes he was hurt and he does have a right to be bitter but when life has dealt you these kind of blows, it is after that you have to show the character and maturity in how you over come that. He still had a decent life with regular meals and a roof over his head. instead of appreciating that he turns it around and becomes a arrogant and self serving individual who demeans and degrades other human being in his life. And moreover never understanding or having any empathy for fellow humans is and trying to win at all cost show the immaturity as well as pure selfishness of that person. These traits are not born of what happened to him in life these are inherent traits of not giving a damn about anybody but oneself.

Sultan has had tragedy too in his life. Yes he had a mother who loved him for 8 years that he saw brutally killed in front of him. His immediate reaction to that was I am going to get the man who did this to my mother. When you are exposed to tragedy like that and have to live on the streets to fend for yourself the only thing that keeps you alive is to get even.Again not a mature reaction but this was a child that was left to fend for himself. He has no one to guide him, does not know where his next meal is coming from and being in the shadow of crime that he was forced into he becomes like them to survive. No excuse just the reality.

He too loved the mother of his child. Tragedy killed her and left him with a handicap son to bring up by himself. All this made him bitter and untrusting of people too.

But he set himself some rules to live by. He did not make excuses to anybody for what he is. Woe is me is not his style. He grew up amid violence and did not have anybody to guide him till he met MB. She helped him see that there is a better way to live. And soon after we see him change his behaviour .

These are two different ways of looking at life but in the end when you are a full grown adult and have to make tough decisions is when you see the difference in both characters. One remains "I.. Me.. Myself" and the other one is fighting for recognition that was snatched from him by a cruel and money hungry man.

This has nothing to do with revenge . It is to give himself the name and legitimacy he lost by no fault of his own.And to give justice to a woman that was treated like a piece of garbage by a self serving two timing man like Mohan. Kundra.

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armummy

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Sultans sole grudge against rk is he won mAdhu . Simple . So he wants to hurt him in the name of his mother. rk never barged into sultans life, sultan constantly barged into rk's life to earn the insults.

Why would anybody need share of property, if he needs his mothers dignity he should go public with the story not barge into rk and his mother life like he did today