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Well, well. well. My very dear Naava, you are like no one as much as the opposite of Darcy in P&P, after he has started softening towards the second Miss Bennet. He was determined to be pleased when he listened to her playing the piano at Rosings Park, and you are determined to be displeased with Poor Onir (capital deliberate). And why? Because he seems so bland and emotionless.😉
Someone should have advised him to bark at his Mishti twice a day, remind her off and on of all that she owes him, glare at Arjun and warn him that if he ever ventures near Purvi, he will be soundly thrashed, and best of all, yank his wife and haul her off to Kolkatta as soon as the baby swap has been effected. Failing that, to make himself as difficult to live with as possible after his licence has been cancelled, and tell Purvi daily that it is all her confounded folly that got him into this horrible situation. Refuse to babysit Pari and tell Purvi that he did not sign on for all this when he married her, nor for having Purvi's father infest his kholi under the pretext of seeing his daughter, but actually to make cow's eyes at her mother. If he had done all this, you would very likely have found him 'normal'!😉 It is a pity no one advised him appropriately!😉
As for his reluctance, as you say (and I would of course accept that though I cannot remember it myself), did it ever occur to you that he might have been illegitimate himself, which is why he never mentions his father, only his mother? Which might also be why he empathises so much with Purvi's condition, which might have mirrored that of his mother. Does that sound plausible? It is all very well for me and the rest of the forum to assert loudly that no child is illegitimate, but the hard fact is that out there in the real world, an illegitimate child faces problems of social acceptance at each step, as soon as he/she is old enough to understand. It is thus not surprising that Onir, if he was indeed in this situation, is not over keen to advertise it.
For me, the touchstone of his character is that he has let himself be destroyed professionally and has borne acute public humiliation without taking it out on the woman who is the root cause of all his misfortunes. I would not have been able to do that; if I had been Onir, Purvi would have heard from me in the sharpest possible tones every day about her folly and its consequence. It was of course also his folly to have listened to her, but catch any angry and frustrated husband remembering and acknowledging that!
But my mother is like Onir. She had coped for a good part of her life with a very tough set of in laws, and she still bears them no ill will. She is so eternally loving and giving that she might seem weird to some, perhaps, but I think she is an angel of compassion and gentleness. So, unlike you, I understand Onir perfectly, and I like him immensely. And no, he is NOT like the jealous, scheming Jaywant, who was a mini-Dharmesh.
I would vote too for an early demise for PR. It is now beyond comic.
Shyamala.
Someone should have advised him to bark at his Mishti twice a day, remind her off and on of all that she owes him, glare at Arjun and warn him that if he ever ventures near Purvi, he will be soundly thrashed, and best of all, yank his wife and haul her off to Kolkatta as soon as the baby swap has been effected. Failing that, to make himself as difficult to live with as possible after his licence has been cancelled, and tell Purvi daily that it is all her confounded folly that got him into this horrible situation. Refuse to babysit Pari and tell Purvi that he did not sign on for all this when he married her, nor for having Purvi's father infest his kholi under the pretext of seeing his daughter, but actually to make cow's eyes at her mother. If he had done all this, you would very likely have found him 'normal'!😉 It is a pity no one advised him appropriately!😉
As for his reluctance, as you say (and I would of course accept that though I cannot remember it myself), did it ever occur to you that he might have been illegitimate himself, which is why he never mentions his father, only his mother? Which might also be why he empathises so much with Purvi's condition, which might have mirrored that of his mother. Does that sound plausible? It is all very well for me and the rest of the forum to assert loudly that no child is illegitimate, but the hard fact is that out there in the real world, an illegitimate child faces problems of social acceptance at each step, as soon as he/she is old enough to understand. It is thus not surprising that Onir, if he was indeed in this situation, is not over keen to advertise it.
For me, the touchstone of his character is that he has let himself be destroyed professionally and has borne acute public humiliation without taking it out on the woman who is the root cause of all his misfortunes. I would not have been able to do that; if I had been Onir, Purvi would have heard from me in the sharpest possible tones every day about her folly and its consequence. It was of course also his folly to have listened to her, but catch any angry and frustrated husband remembering and acknowledging that!
But my mother is like Onir. She had coped for a good part of her life with a very tough set of in laws, and she still bears them no ill will. She is so eternally loving and giving that she might seem weird to some, perhaps, but I think she is an angel of compassion and gentleness. So, unlike you, I understand Onir perfectly, and I like him immensely. And no, he is NOT like the jealous, scheming Jaywant, who was a mini-Dharmesh.
I would vote too for an early demise for PR. It is now beyond comic.
Shyamala.
Ahh, old times...long discussions ! 😊But I will be brief..& your apology most certainly accepted...😆 Oy, I knew I was in trouble when I brought in the infamous and villainous Balan & Dharmesh...(the latter of which I did at one time give praises to for the genuine love he had for his son Varun ). OK...to be fair, it was an unfair comparison to equate Onir with these two.. A better comparison would be Jaywant. uff, I never liked that guy...he gave me the creeps. Onir just makes me uneasy. These 4 are probably the only real dislikes i have in the character world of PR. 😛While I can't think of anything good at all about Balan ...although he tempted me once with the fact that he did love Soham a little, (however, it seemed only for his own purposes and use so I had to discard it)...but, I must be able to muster some praise of Onir.. 🤔 Unfortunately...his praiseworthy things have so far eluded me...(unlike Varsha / Savita / Punni etc etc for whom I can see two sides and reasons etc) . I don't think my dislike is arbitrary, and I don't hate him...he presents to me as a duplicitous character, so I can't rely on ANY of his actions as being genuine. So...he seemed sensitive or acted sensitively is far different that he actually was sensitive...if ya get my drift.. 😉 He also presents himself to me as a bland robotic personality...hiding either a totally different personality,or having no personality... maybe a defense mechanism but none the less, very strange man. (again, i'm talking about Onir the character, not Shakti the actor - in fact, I think Shakti, from what I read, didn't like his character either !)Sorry... maybe time will change my opinion, and I will gladly do a mea culpaThat said there were actually at least two or three scenes where Purvi (and I think Archu or Manav also) asked about his past, and he changed the subject, avoided the question and in one of the cases, said he only lives in the present or looks to the future or something like that, and wouldn't answer the direct question. I found this to be a little too slick to avoid disclosure and it certainly didn't cut it with me. Oh yes, sounds practical, positive, but...ummm. everyone has a past, and our past is important to who we are now.So don't blame me for a whim, haha, blame the cv's for writing the mysterious parts, for making him bland and robotic, and not full of the passions of life - both positive and negative ones. 😆 Actually, Purvi also presents herself sometimes as sans emotions, though in her, I can see what's hiding beneath ! 😉Guess i wasn't brief after all. Hope your wrist calms down again. Nice chatting dear.p.s. IMO, the best thing is for PR to close it's doors; it saw it's glory long long ago and now is like an old tired shoe.
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