Bani or Jai-who is more guilty?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Something has made me write down this post. This post is not pro –Jai but just logical analysis of the situation. (Ekta certainly does not use any of hers so let us put some of ours to faltoo use). Jai has been stripped off of all the respect post ONS and have been severely reprimanded for hiding the secret from his wife. He surely should have done that before making a fresh start with Bani, of his life. But here is where the situation comes on a question mark as to why Bani is never reprimanded just as severely for any of her mistakes?

Why was Bani not questioned for putting Jai through so much of torture? He was willingly giving into her demands of divorce, alimony (where he was ready to pay more than what was asked for), Bani's decision to take away his child from him when she knew very well that this child has somewhere become Jai's reason for existence. Why denying Jai, the right to be a father? Why Bani was never questioned for breaking Jai into million little pieces everyday, for not informing him about loss of his child, all she wanted to do was to get away from Jai so what was the need to break this man? For just running back into Jai's arms, when she found out that her mother has committed suicide. Never questioned for asking Jai's approval to start this relationship afresh. Why she was not questioned, when she did not reprimanded Pia for aborting Pushky's legal baby but went on her "Mission finding Pia baby's father" when the child has been illegitimately conceived out of a wedlock.Where is her moral values now in case of Pia?

Complaint against Jai has been that he was unfaithful in his relationship with Bani; he crossed moral boundaries when he slept with his SIL. He has been hiding this secret from his loving and caring wife, etc….. But why do we choose to overlook the good things this man has done for her. He forgave Pia and Pushkar because of Baniinspite of the fact that they backstabbed him, when he could have easily destroyed them but rather he supported them. He sheltered Pia, when she needed it bad because he wanted to score points on his wife. He let go off his right and desire of being a father to his own child and see him growing up for Bani's sake. One cannot say that he accepted Bani back after the ONS because of the guilt,"NO", he did not, he accepted her back because he wanted her, the woman he loved wanted to be with him and that his trust was true:otherwise a man of JW status has no dearth of woman. He could have easily finished off with Bani and went ahead with his life with someone else. He accepted her just the way she was-Guilty. We say she did all that to protect him, when he is doing the same we are finding faults with him? He is not saving his own a**.If not for Bani then Jai would have been over and done with this entire thing by now. Just because his mistake can be measured in physical terms and Bani's cannot does make him acriminal or sinner and her, an innocent victim of his atrocities
This is not a post on Jai Jaap or Bani bashing but rather logic of Jai supporters. Sorry if offended anyone.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Well said Priyanka! Jai is definitely more guilty for his mistakes! But Bani doesnt seem to remember nor feel important to tell him even today (after seeing the killer of her baby who kidnapped Anu's baby) how did she loose the baby?? If she had told it in the court, I think Pia's witness wouldnt hv been important! But whatever Bani does has a reason and is for everyone's good! Nor I see her cribbing that she has hidden this truth, rather she loves to dump him b'coz she feels he has an affair and only believes him after all the investigations! Even JW could hv done this, if he wanted to, why he didnt do it? Very simple, as JW trusts his wife more than anything, and Bani does say the samething, but doesnt show it in her actions!!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I think we should realise one more thing! Bani believes this back stabbing Pia more than JW!! JW went to hotel to meet Pia, she didnt even feel that there is something wrong! She rcvd some call from private number, so she thought that JW is betraying her, but as soon as that private caller was Pia, she trusts JW completely! Actually its not JW whom she trusts, she trusts Pia! Why the trust should change, if the lady was someone else??
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Well said Priyanka! Jai is definitely more guilty for his mistakes! But Bani doesnt seem to remember nor feel important to tell him even today (after seeing the killer of her baby who kidnapped Anu's baby) how did she loose the baby?? If she had told it in the court, I think Pia's witness wouldnt hv been important! But whatever Bani does has a reason and is for everyone's good! Nor I see her cribbing that she has hidden this truth, rather she loves to dump him b'coz she feels he has an affair and only believes him after all the investigations! Even JW could hv done this, if he wanted to, why he didnt do it? Very simple, as JW trusts his wife more than anything, and Bani does say the samething, but doesnt show it in her actions!!



Ash,
Dekha pehle Jai supporters hi aate hai. I mean she can do what ever she wants but no one can question her and once the ONS is disclosed just watch out for the amount of insults and questions Munna will have to face
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Well, a final verdict can be given only when it is established once and for all, whether JW did it or not and if the relation was not consummated under what circumstances.

Will ponder over your post in detail. But one thing is certain- both JW and Bani will be judged by much more stringent norms than other characters for the simple reason that both are loved more than anyone else. Will get back in details when I have time.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

Well, a final verdict can be given only when it is established once and for all, whether JW did it or not and if the relation was not consummated under what circumstances.

Will ponder over your post in detail. But one thing is certain- both JW and Bani will be judged by much more stringent norms than other characters for the simple reason that both are loved more than anyone else. Will get back in details when I have time.

Rgds,

Pri


Pri,
The question is not whether he did it or not but that he is far more severely bashed for any mistake than Bani and his good traits and deeds are always overlooked.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Mahim,

I dont agree to this. 😉
(Dekha pehle Jai supporters hi aate hai. )


I agree with Pri somewhat that the judgement norms will be very tough for either of them, though I know at the end who's gonna be torn to shreds.

Yes they have both made mistakes, highly idiotic ones at that. And highly volatile too.

Being a JnB camper, I will say that they need to spruce up their acts together if they want to make it together in life. Mistakes are subjective in nature, so to compare one's mistakes with the other's may not be a corretc step.

Ok, Bani seems to be ahead. And I want both of them to be repsonsible for their mistakes and act on it.

But more than anything, they need to communicate.

Their association reminds me of one line in a song -

'In your arms as dawn is breaking,
Face to face, but a thousand miles apart ...'
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Sangita,

First lots of kisses and hugs to you for that .I have nothing against Bani and will never blindly support Jai, but the amount of post dedicated to his shredding exceed far more than Bani's whenever she commits a mistake. How many post can you count on Bani's actions and decisions for Pia, on one hand but Jai has been severly bashed up.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Sangs,

(Yes they have both made mistakes, highly idiotic ones at that. And highly volatile too. )

Sometimes what is overlooked is the kind of legacy they have had. Both came from highly dysfunctional families and both had to become breadwinners and surrogate parents at a very tender age. They really did not have anyone to trust, to share their desires and fear with.
They had the right to chosse their life partners taken from them by those they loved and trusted the most. On top of that JW had a murder charge foisted on him and both lives was blighted by a curse laid by Bani's father. And did really they have any role model to base their own lives on.

So if at the end of the day they could not be the balanced parent/spouse/friend/sibling, is it something to be wondered at? And all said and done they have done more good to the people they have been in contact with than they have harmed others. And both deserved better at the hands of their loved ones (incl. each other) than they got.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Mahim,

What you said is true, but hey i can't comment, cuz i think i am one of the first ones to jump at bani's throat whenever she does something. 😳

But i think the reason for Jai bashing is because well most of the people are women in this forum, and whether we like it or not, as soon as we find one fault in a man, we start bashing them, i say it's an inborn thing, that we can't help. So that's what i think is the major reason for it.

Women relate to women better, and love to find faults in men, and hence jumping at jai's throat whenever a chance comes along.

Shina

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