FOR ALL THE WOMEN OUT THERE!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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hello people!!! đŸ€—
it feels great to be back on this forum after so many months!!!!!!!!!!!
*dance dance dance*đŸ„ł

okay sorry for getting overexcited. its just that for past few months i did not come on the forum because i was busy with my fashion course. well lets get to the point. i know this is late and i do not wish to stir up this fight of skirts vs salwars again but i just had to write my thoughts.

mainly i am writing this because my view on clothing especially with regards to women has changed drastically in past few months. during my course i met many models and designrs. who everyday have to debate on this issue. i saw models who had been dressed in clothes as good as bikinis and yet the seemed comfortable. and they are one of the nicest and most honest people i might have known. why? because they have nothing to hide. they are comfortable with what and who they are. straight forward and very courageous.
well so now this post that i have written is totally my view on yesterday's skirt scene. i am not going to debate here whether it was wrong or right or if it was out of character for zoya to wear a skirt so small. frankly i didn't find it out of character a tad bit.
my point is more general on women. yes i may be wrong but that doesn't mean that people condemning skirts should be right. we all can partly be wrong or right.

okay so the skirt. many argued that wearing a skirt is wrong for a women.
well 1st of all skirts are made for women to wear if you haven't noticed.
2nd well this is more serious. time and again it has been said that it should not matter to the world what a women chooses to wear. and i agree with it but the sentence is incomplete.
a women can wear what she likes and what she feels comfortable in but she should also be conscious of where she is or with whom she is. all i say is that women should dress with a brain.
of course this is for her own safety reasons. if she is attacked it is the attackers fault. true. but i feel a women should take necessary precautions. of course if the women can very well beat up her assaulter to pulp on her own she can wear a bikini in the market for all i care. then she is not at all dependent on society to save her so she can very well say to all criticizers to go to hell.

but if not then a women should be careful of where and how she dresses. that brings us to zoya. okay the truth be said i had watched the episode with my family. all the women of the house including my aunts mom and cousin had fought with the men to get control of the remote. and when we all watched it we didn't think anything about Zoya wearing a skirt. no one found it odd or anything not normal. the reaction was like when a heroine who always wears chudidar suddenly comes out in a saree. we all were really complementing her genuinely on how good she looked. until of course my brother who just happened to pass by looked at the tv and commented, "those are hot legs. "
my reaction: đŸ‘đŸŒ to him
my mom's reaction:😡 for his comment.
my cousins reaction: on the lecture that was to start.

but the point is here my brother didn't mean any harm. he was appreciating her. i too wear skirts. doesn't mean i am characterless person. i still have faith in my god and still respect my elders. i don't wear clothes which my parents tell me not to wear. not because i fear them but because i know that they have a good reason for it. and my parents too never stop me from doing something without knowing my side or because of some prejudice. even when my brother commented on zoya's legs my mom's reaction was to scold him and not condemn zoya for what she was wearing. well i don't say my brother is at fault because his comment was like me drooling over Ksg's abs. in short " very human". wish all would teach their sons that. i mean really if women are not safe outside why lock them up inside. lock your sons in so that women are free to go around.

its not that i don't oppose men who attack women. i strongly hate them. its simple. if a women wears a short skirt its okay for a men to look at her. because she has worn it for that purpose. but she has in no way done anything to him. so he has no right what so ever to touch her. if a women herself gets touchy then a man can get touchy to her but it should be her open and clear invitation to him. and that is why men always say ladies first.

about people saying that zoya was projected as a girl who wears modern clothes but still covers herself up well i don't know about that. may be its just me but i never thought that it was the case. i mean come on she has lived in new york. surely she must have worn dresses and skirts. she is not an aunty or a girl who has been bought up in india and then shifted to america. she has lived there since her childhood. what do you people think she must have worn on her prom day? jeans? well possible but very unlikely. and also she was not going out wearing it. it was in the house which was very safe. also even if she wore it in new york every day its not a big deal. people over there wear those clothes on daily basis. the point is she has been sensible enough to cover her self up in India where she is currently staying. she is not roaming out in that skirt. as i said i don't find fault in women who wear exposing clothes as long as they see to it that they do not hurt peoples sentiments. in India people(at least genuinely some) don't like that so we should be careful of it. doesn't mean she cannot wear it at home. she had been careful to not wear it around asad even though see looked so gorgeous and comfortable in it.

hope i did not hit a nerve with anyone. again let me tell you that i have just explained my view.

thanks to all who read this long post.😊

PS: to all those who are reading my fanfic on asya i am terribly sorry that i have not updated it for months. but now that i am back i promise i will update it soon after i finish with my shifting and stuff. thanks a loads for your patience and hope i am not in deep trouble. one or two punches are okay *puppy face*

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okay just now i was discussing this with my cousin who happens to be from Portugal. we were talking about clothing and she made an interesting observation. she said that i was wrong of us o condemn skirts which are western culture basically because we too have traditional clothing which expose skin. eg: sarees, backless cholis, deep neck salwars etc. the only difference is we have clothes that show the upper half and they have skirts which show the lower half. so aren't we showing double standards?
i would like for someone to answer that for her.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with almost everything that u said above except this one .
"if a women wears a short skirt its okay for a men to look at her. because
she has worn it for that purpose." . I am in no way objecting ur views or anything but i just want to say that this is not true everywhere . For example , i myself wear shorts and i sometimes even step out of my house wearing them but i never wear them to show my legs to men . Infact , i know i would feel very uncomfortable if a man keeps staring at my legs . So no thats not my purpose for wearing shorts , i wear them because i like them and not because i want men to like me in it .
But as i sad before , its totally your view and u are no where wrong .
Thanks for this amazing post and let me tell u , u are very lucky have such a liberal family !
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shai95

I agree with almost everything that u said above except this one .
"if a women wears a short skirt its okay for a men to look at her. because
she has worn it for that purpose." . I am in no way objecting ur views or anything but i just want to say that this is not true everywhere . For example , i myself wear shorts and i sometimes even step out of my house wearing them but i never wear them to show my legs to men . Infact , i know i would feel very uncomfortable if a man keeps staring at my legs . So no thats not my purpose for wearing shorts , i wear them because i like them and not because i want men to like me in it .
But as i sad before , its totally your view and u are no where wrong .
Thanks for this amazing post and let me tell u , u are very lucky have such a liberal family !


thanks for sharing your view. well what i had said actually didn't mean that way. i am sorry if it sounded like that. my point was that not only men but every one in general. for exaple if i wear a short dress to a party it is because i have good legs and i want to show them off. doesn't mean i want to show only my legs off. i in whole want people to appreciate my looks. hope i my line there didn't hurt you in any way.

and yes thank you for saying that. yes i know i am very lucky to have such a family. i must have done some good somewhere to have the two most amazing people as my parents.😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ayuzawa



thanks for sharing your view. well what i had said actually didn't mean that way. i am sorry if it sounded like that. my point was that not only men but every one in general. for exaple if i wear a short dress to a party it is because i have good legs and i want to show them off. doesn't mean i want to show only my legs off. i in whole want people to appreciate my looks. hope i my line there didn't hurt you in any way.

and yes thank you for saying that. yes i know i am very lucky to have such a family. i must have done some good somewhere to have the two most amazing people as my parents.😊


oh ! If this is what u wanted to say then i'm so sorry for misunderstanding ur statement . My mistake . Anyways ! Thanks for clarifying !
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Posted: 12 years ago
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well i like reading different POVs..
urs is different too..
good post
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shai95


oh ! If this is what u wanted to say then i'm so sorry for misunderstanding ur statement . My mistake . Anyways ! Thanks for clarifying !

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Your back!! đŸ€—
Yaay!!!
Res** Gonna update after reading your post!
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I'm glad to see you back in the forum and hope everything is okay.
I just love your FF!
But comming back to the post, everyone has different views and I respect everyones views.
To me, it depends on who is wearing it. Everyone is comfortable with different things. And when I was watching the episode with my family, I thought they were gonna say something about the skirt; but shockingly they didn't say anything. So, I guess it matters, how you view it!
Nice Post!
~Sophie :)

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ayuzawa

a women can wear what she likes and what she feels comfortable in but she should also be conscious of where she is or with whom she is. all i say is that women should dress with a brain.
of course this is for her own safety reasons. if she is attacked it is the attackers fault. true. but i feel a women should take necessary precautions. of course if the women can very well beat up her assaulter to pulp on her own she can wear a bikini in the market for all i care. then she is not at all dependent on society to save her so she can very well say to all criticizers to go to hell.



I appreciate your thoughtful comment -- it was a pleasure to read. But I have to make a point here. Women ranging in age from babies to elderly grandmothers have been attacked and sexually assaulted. It's not about what women wear -- it's about the men who attack women because they want to, and a society that for the most part finds ways to blame the victim rather than attacker in this crime. It's not "she shouldn't have worn XYZ" or "she shouldn't have walked here" -- it's "he should never have assaulted her," period, full stop. Nothing you choose to wear is an excuse for a person making the conscious choice to hurt another person. It's not the fault of the clothes, it's the fault of the attacker.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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very nice post đŸ‘đŸŒ
people needs to be tolerant to different POVs but ...
i liked the parallel u drew between eastern and western culture
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i totally agree with your post
i liked what you said about eastern & western cultures
it's our views on something that makes it good or bad .& i don't think zoya wearing a skirt is a bad thing . i mean if it was some bollywood movie there won't be such discussions .
i totally agree with you that a woman should dress with her brains
awesome post
loved it

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